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« Reply #1720 on: December 15, 2009, 12:48:57 AM »

Hi Tracygirl,
In the beginning I think that KK was covering for MB. MB was getting a lot of flack for allowing LB out after dark alone. I think it may have been why KK's stories and the timeline were not consistent. I think as I said before, MB did not supervise her children PERIOD. Since the dogs never found a scent leading away from KK's home, I cannot help wondering if KK was also covering for something more. Doesn't she have a teen daughter that still lives in AZ? From some old myspace pages that I saw, it looks as if the daughter may have had a baby that passed away, I am not sure. The other thing that screams out at me is this. In the beginning KK acted like she was new to the area. She may have been new to McCleary but from address searches it looks like she may have lived in other parts of WA in the past. She just kept going on and on about having just moved there from AZ. I cannot help but wonder if there is something that she may have gotten in trouble for in other parts of WA? Has KK ever been married? Just who do all of her children belong to and are there more? She also states that she is trying to be a good stay at home mom at some of her writing sites. Was she a bad mom in the past? I don't know, there is just something not right here but I have not been able to figure out what it is. She also stated that she has not talked to her brother in years, that he has problems, blah blah but he is one of her friends on her myspace account. From his troubled blogs I get the feeling that they did not have a good childhood. There are just so many unanswered questions.
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« Reply #1721 on: December 15, 2009, 01:32:08 AM »

Sebastian, here we are again, late at night. in another window I have opened the past posts of Kara, it is amazing the change in stories and attitude. She acknowleges at one point the change in attitude but along with her attitude the story was changing just ever so much. IF you have an extra hour with nothing to do, then take a look
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« Reply #1722 on: December 15, 2009, 01:46:38 AM »

Sebastian, here we are again, late at night. in another window I have opened the past posts of Kara, it is amazing the change in stories and attitude. She acknowleges at one point the change in attitude but along with her attitude the story was changing just ever so much. IF you have an extra hour with nothing to do, then take a look

Hi Tracy!
Lol, once hubby and kids are in bed, I am free to dig on the internet! Might I add that it is a joy to do this uninterrupted! How do I find this window that you opened?
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« Reply #1723 on: December 15, 2009, 04:32:52 PM »

click KaraK user name then at the bottom click last posts from this member (or whatever) and you will get 7 pages of them!

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« Reply #1724 on: December 15, 2009, 05:22:01 PM »

Tracygirl, we know for a fact, as in 100% that Lindsey was at KK's home the night she disappeared.  According to LE, there was no scent (as in fresh scent) beyond the house of KK.  After that, everything gets muddled.
We know for a fact that Lindsey is listed on Interpol.  We know for a fact that to be listed on Interpol isn't something that happens to every missing person.  We know for a fact that Interpol deals in trafficking and porn.
We know for a fact that KK acted as if she just arrived from AZ.  We know for a fact she has lived in several places in WA.  We know for a fact her "old man" is also listed as having the last name of Zimmerman as well as Williams.
We know for a fact that KK has lied on more than one occasion.
Where to begin -- at the beginning.  Who is KK, who is her "old man," etc.
Why do you suppose LE suspended searching after a mere 5 days?  Why do you suppose they have not supported/participated in the searches?  To me the answer is obvious, Lindsey is listed on Interpol which takes this case into a whole different dimension.
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« Reply #1725 on: December 15, 2009, 05:32:09 PM »

Thanks for the information Sister.  I did not realize LB is listed on interpol.  Interesting.

I know you work over at Skye's site and I read here that she had "checked out" Kara K and Scott.  I was wondering if you had any more information in that regard since DD (skye) does not post here anymore.  I was interested in what made her post that.

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« Reply #1726 on: December 15, 2009, 05:35:35 PM »

Tracygirl, we know for a fact, as in 100% that Lindsey was at KK's home the night she disappeared.  According to LE, there was no scent (as in fresh scent) beyond the house of KK.  After that, everything gets muddled.
We know for a fact that Lindsey is listed on Interpol.  We know for a fact that to be listed on Interpol isn't something that happens to every missing person.  We know for a fact that Interpol deals in trafficking and porn.
We know for a fact that KK acted as if she just arrived from AZ.  We know for a fact she has lived in several places in WA.  We know for a fact her "old man" is also listed as having the last name of Zimmerman as well as Williams.
We know for a fact that KK has lied on more than one occasion.
Where to begin -- at the beginning.  Who is KK, who is her "old man," etc.
Why do you suppose LE suspended searching after a mere 5 days?  Why do you suppose they have not supported/participated in the searches?  To me the answer is obvious, Lindsey is listed on Interpol which takes this case into a whole different dimension.
    Oh my, I didn't know that about Interpol, I'm really sick to my stomach over this. I had no idea, I feel rather dumb not knowing about Interpol, I of course heard of it, but didn't realize that it deals in trafficking and porn 
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« Reply #1727 on: December 15, 2009, 05:36:23 PM »

Thanks for the information Sister.  I did not realize LB is listed on interpol.  Interesting.

I know you work over at Skye's site and I read here that she had "checked out" Kara K and Scott.  I was wondering if you had any more information in that regard since DD (skye) does not post here anymore.  I was interested in what made her post that.

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« Reply #1728 on: December 15, 2009, 06:04:33 PM »

Thanks for the information Sister.  I did not realize LB is listed on interpol.  Interesting.

I know you work over at Skye's site and I read here that she had "checked out" Kara K and Scott.  I was wondering if you had any more information in that regard since DD (skye) does not post here anymore.  I was interested in what made her post that.

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I will check with DD later tonight to see what I can bring over here.  She is always generous with her research, but I need to ask as I didn't do the research myself.  I have been working off line on another case
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« Reply #1729 on: December 15, 2009, 06:11:46 PM »

Where did my post go? Rats I posted one but it didn't post...I am off to get kids from school and don't have time to post a long one again, but I wanted to thank sister for her post!

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« Reply #1730 on: December 15, 2009, 06:16:16 PM »

Thanks for the information Sister.  I did not realize LB is listed on interpol.  Interesting.

I know you work over at Skye's site and I read here that she had "checked out" Kara K and Scott.  I was wondering if you had any more information in that regard since DD (skye) does not post here anymore.  I was interested in what made her post that.

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Lovinlife
Me too Lovin 

I will check with DD later tonight to see what I can bring over here.  She is always generous with her research, but I need to ask as I didn't do the research myself.  I have been working off line on another case
The only thing I want to know is what made her post that.  I respect her and do not want her to think that I'm trying to steal her research.  If she says not to, I completely understand.
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« Reply #1731 on: December 15, 2009, 06:48:50 PM »

Thanks for the information Sister.  I did not realize LB is listed on interpol.  Interesting.

I know you work over at Skye's site and I read here that she had "checked out" Kara K and Scott.  I was wondering if you had any more information in that regard since DD (skye) does not post here anymore.  I was interested in what made her post that.

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I will check with DD later tonight to see what I can bring over here.  She is always generous with her research, but I need to ask as I didn't do the research myself.  I have been working off line on another case
Thank-you, and also about Interpol.
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« Reply #1732 on: December 15, 2009, 07:04:12 PM »

grrr... I posted a post and it went poof... grrrr

anyway... you are more than welcome to use the info from my board.  just please be sure to read the whole subject matter and not just one post and run with is... because... I have what I call WORK THREADS over there.  this is where we gather all info and toss it into a thread and then go back through it and sort it out to find things that connect... some of the things tossed in there might not be about what we are looking for... but after we look at it normally towards the end of the thread we start figuring it out.  And info we believe to connect I put over into the WHO IS WHO section.  Normally if you want info on someone it is over there. 

the old board server was all jacked up and still is after a month later... grrr... so I had to move the board to a new server... so a lot of the work is not moved over yet, but I am working on getting it all over there.  So if you can't find something you can just ask by posting your question in the open discussion area, you don't have to be a member to do that... or you can have sister ask.  There are INDEXES there you can look through to help you find things... but again, I don't have them completed so a lot of the work is not listed in the INDEXES yet. 

I don't have a lot of time to sit around and discuss anything or to try to explain a lot of things but if you need to find something go ahead and use the board to find what you are looking for, and ask if you can't find it.  anything now on that board yet, I pretty much have the info in my head. 

if you post questions over there in the open area I will link you to stuff or answer you if I have time.

this case needs to stay on the boards and not go dormant.  so if info over there can help with your discussion and figuring something out, by all means use it. 
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« Reply #1733 on: December 15, 2009, 07:10:08 PM »

Thanks for the information Sister.  I did not realize LB is listed on interpol.  Interesting.

I know you work over at Skye's site and I read here that she had "checked out" Kara K and Scott.  I was wondering if you had any more information in that regard since DD (skye) does not post here anymore.  I was interested in what made her post that.

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Me too Lovin 

I will check with DD later tonight to see what I can bring over here.  She is always generous with her research, but I need to ask as I didn't do the research myself.  I have been working off line on another case
The only thing I want to know is what made her post that.  I respect her and do not want her to think that I'm trying to steal her research.  If she says not to, I completely understand.

not sure what I posted that you want to know about>  if you explain what it was I'll answer you. 

btw if anyone clicks on the globe to the left, up under my name here, it will take you where all the info is. 
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« Reply #1734 on: December 15, 2009, 08:49:30 PM »

Hello Skye nice to see you again, thanks for posting. Yes this case cannot go dormant.

I have not been to skyes site in a while but it appears from reading over there just now, they are feeling hinky about Kara (and apparently, Jenn O) as well right now. That makes me feel like I am on the right track.

 

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« Reply #1735 on: December 15, 2009, 09:33:17 PM »

There is a thread on Skye's site that has lots of info about KK:

http://truecrimes.50.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=276

I did talk with Skye about bringing info here, which she has no problem with, as indicated above, just that entire threads have to be read and not taken out of context.

Happy reading -- it's very informative.
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« Reply #1736 on: December 15, 2009, 10:00:19 PM »

Hello Skye nice to see you again, thanks for posting. Yes this case cannot go dormant.

I have not been to skyes site in a while but it appears from reading over there just now, they are feeling hinky about Kara (and apparently, Jenn O) as well right now. That makes me feel like I am on the right track.

 


Thanks and thanks DD/Skye. It makes me feel like I'm on the right track also. 
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« Reply #1737 on: December 15, 2009, 10:00:47 PM »

There is a thread on Skye's site that has lots of info about KK:

http://truecrimes.50.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=276

I did talk with Skye about bringing info here, which she has no problem with, as indicated above, just that entire threads have to be read and not taken out of context.

Happy reading -- it's very informative.
Thank-you
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« Reply #1738 on: December 15, 2009, 10:48:40 PM »

Tracygirl, we know for a fact, as in 100% that Lindsey was at KK's home the night she disappeared.  According to LE, there was no scent (as in fresh scent) beyond the house of KK.  After that, everything gets muddled.
We know for a fact that Lindsey is listed on Interpol.  We know for a fact that to be listed on Interpol isn't something that happens to every missing person.  We know for a fact that Interpol deals in trafficking and porn.
We know for a fact that KK acted as if she just arrived from AZ.  We know for a fact she has lived in several places in WA.  We know for a fact her "old man" is also listed as having the last name of Zimmerman as well as Williams.
We know for a fact that KK has lied on more than one occasion.
Where to begin -- at the beginning.  Who is KK, who is her "old man," etc.
Why do you suppose LE suspended searching after a mere 5 days?  Why do you suppose they have not supported/participated in the searches?  To me the answer is obvious, Lindsey is listed on Interpol which takes this case into a whole different dimension.

Hi Sister,
I had no idea that Scott also uses the name Zimmerman. Do you happen to have a date of birth? TIA!
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« Reply #1739 on: December 15, 2009, 11:20:49 PM »

Thanks for the information Sister.  I did not realize LB is listed on interpol.  Interesting.

I know you work over at Skye's site and I read here that she had "checked out" Kara K and Scott.  I was wondering if you had any more information in that regard since DD (skye) does not post here anymore.  I was interested in what made her post that.

Blessings,
Lovinlife
Me too Lovin 

I will check with DD later tonight to see what I can bring over here.  She is always generous with her research, but I need to ask as I didn't do the research myself.  I have been working off line on another case
The only thing I want to know is what made her post that.  I respect her and do not want her to think that I'm trying to steal her research.  If she says not to, I completely understand.

not sure what I posted that you want to know about>  if you explain what it was I'll answer you. 

btw if anyone clicks on the globe to the left, up under my name here, it will take you where all the info is. 
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg866168#msg866168

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yes I dug up everything on kara and her family also LOL.  you never know til you look, you might think someone is okay and find out they are wanted for the rape and murder of a child in another state, you just never know til you look.  So I look.  Everyone has a couple of things in their life they probably don't want people to know, but I don't knit-pick the small stuff, but I do look for the HMMMM stuff that might give a hint about the case I am researching.  even some criminal records don't put up a red flag to me.  Not everyone who has ever been arrested for something goes around and abducts or kills people, so I am certainly not on some witch hunt to try to make eveyrone look involved or guilty of something.  but when you have a sex offender in your family, and they are connected in some way to the victim of a case, you need to look at them to see where they were etc.  so you have to look at all the relatives of everyone to see if there are any.  sex offenders are very likely to reoffend so you have to know how they are and where they are and if they have had contact with the victim.  the only way you are going to find that out is to figure out who everyone is.  if a famliy has contact with the victim you have to search all through that family to see if ay are sex offenders.  and in the process you run into a lot of info on people they do not want known.  but it does not mean the whole family is bad etc, it just mean we are trying to figure out something

ME:  Just trying to get a feeling for what you were saying here.  I took this to mean that KaraK & all her known associates were checked out by you (DD).  And was wondering if maybe we missed something.  I will check out your site.  Thanks for sharing!
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