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« Reply #560 on: October 05, 2009, 09:35:01 PM »

The one thing I keep thinking is everyone keeps saying it is someone she must know because the area would not easily be a place one just happens upon. Although if anyone recalls there is a sex offender group that meets at a church or something, that may bring people into the area.

So in looking at those we know she knew and who may have something hinky about them this alice walters pops up. Who is this person and why are there other Alice Walters with no city, only US listed and is 18 years old? Where would she have met this person, on line maybe? In person? Can anyone get into her myspace?

Tracy, early on we were researching a church in the area that appeared to take in drug addicts, or people recently released from prison.  It was in McCleary as I recall.  Can anyone remember the details of all this...I know we had pictures etc of events.

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« Reply #561 on: October 05, 2009, 09:39:19 PM »

The one thing I keep thinking is everyone keeps saying it is someone she must know because the area would not easily be a place one just happens upon. Although if anyone recalls there is a sex offender group that meets at a church or something, that may bring people into the area.

So in looking at those we know she knew and who may have something hinky about them this alice walters pops up. Who is this person and why are there other Alice Walters with no city, only US listed and is 18 years old? Where would she have met this person, on line maybe? In person? Can anyone get into her myspace?

Tracy, early on we were researching a church in the area that appeared to take in drug addicts, or people recently released from prison.  It was in McCleary as I recall.  Can anyone remember the details of all this...I know we had pictures etc of events.

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Maybe you can find info on the church you are looking for in the following thread that DD created.

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That is it,  I think TracyGirl was asking about it.  I just can't remember all the details...and I am older than you too!  LOL
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« Reply #562 on: October 05, 2009, 09:46:44 PM »

karma the pic of Lindsey is very cute, thank you. She has a very sweet smile.

As you all know, I don't beleive MB or Josh had anything to do with it and since I don't I want to thank you for still looking at the possibilty. Who knows, I could be wrong!

I honestly think the people who were out that night lent to LE's statement the last person to see her was at 9:30 (or whatever time). I wish we knew where all of the other people where though, She may have been taken right from there or a few blocks away.

I think Alice Walters may have something to do with all of this, what do you all think?

I am not sure about and Alice Walters connection, and someone mentioned somewhere that there was a band by that name....local band?  I could be wrong, but it seems like if there was an Walters connection it would be more of a gang related conspiracy, and I don't think that is what is going on here.  I think it was not well thought out, and more of an opportunity that presented itself and some SO took advantage of it. 
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« Reply #563 on: October 05, 2009, 09:50:57 PM »

http://www.icrimewatch.net/offenderdetails.php?OfndrID=824546&AgencyID=54469

Here is another registered SO with the last name Golder. I wonder if there is any relation?

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Could this be the person you thought was Brian Golder.

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Does anyone remember if there was a Brian Golder related to any of the others? I typed in "golder sex offender" on google and you would not believe all of the filth that comes up. I am too chicken to click on any of the links.


Hi Janet,
One is Brian and the other is Byron but anything is possible!
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« Reply #564 on: October 05, 2009, 09:52:43 PM »

ATTENTION MCCLEARY RESIDENTS:
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MISSION STATEMENT: PSALM 150:
SUBJECT; DG/DALE GOLDER:
[D]ale Golder may have Dropped off the LE POI/Person of Interest List, however, 'Strongtower has a "LIST" of his own! Just how 'Precise is this List? It is sooooooooo dang 'Percise! Just how 'Bent is this 'Strongtower when he read Dale Golder's Backgroung Rap Sheet, McCleary Cause #00MC0014? He is soooooooooo dang Bent! Contact "Tina Golder" for Details on Dale Golder @(360) 495-0002 Contact 'Strongtower @strongtowerlee@aol.com

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« Reply #565 on: October 05, 2009, 09:55:15 PM »

ATTENTION MCCLEARY RESIDENTS:
POST: CCS/STRONGTOWER:
MISSION STATEMENT: PSALM 150:
SUBJECT; DG/DALE GOLDER:
[D]ale Golder may have Dropped off the LE POI/Person of Interest List, however, 'Strongtower has a "LIST" of his own! Just how 'Precise is this List? It is sooooooooo dang 'Percise! Just how 'Bent is this 'Strongtower when he read Dale Golder's Backgroung Rap Sheet, McCleary Cause #00MC0014? He is soooooooooo dang Bent! Contact "Tina Golder" for Details on Dale Golder @(360) 495-0002 Contact 'Strongtower @strongtowerlee@aol.com

Here is the latest from you know who. Klaasend, if there is anything that needs to be edited, please let me know.

I get the strong feeling that Mr. Strongtower is following our blog. 
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« Reply #566 on: October 05, 2009, 09:58:37 PM »

ATTENTION MCCLEARY RESIDENTS:
POST: CCS/STRONGTOWER:
MISSION STATEMENT: PSALM 150:
SUBJECT; DG/DALE GOLDER:
[D]ale Golder may have Dropped off the LE POI/Person of Interest List, however, 'Strongtower has a "LIST" of his own! Just how 'Precise is this List? It is sooooooooo dang 'Percise! Just how 'Bent is this 'Strongtower when he read Dale Golder's Backgroung Rap Sheet, McCleary Cause #00MC0014? He is soooooooooo dang Bent! Contact "Tina Golder" for Details on Dale Golder @(360) 495-0002 Contact 'Strongtower @strongtowerlee@aol.com

Here is the latest from you know who. Klaasend, if there is anything that needs to be edited, please let me know.

I get the strong feeling that Mr. Strongtower is following our blog. 

Probably! I guess I just want to know what his agenda is.
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« Reply #567 on: October 05, 2009, 10:08:20 PM »

ATTENTION MCCLEARY RESIDENTS:
POST: CCS/STRONGTOWER:
MISSION STATEMENT: PSALM 150:
SUBJECT; DG/DALE GOLDER:
[D]ale Golder may have Dropped off the LE POI/Person of Interest List, however, 'Strongtower has a "LIST" of his own! Just how 'Precise is this List? It is sooooooooo dang 'Percise! Just how 'Bent is this 'Strongtower when he read Dale Golder's Backgroung Rap Sheet, McCleary Cause #00MC0014? He is soooooooooo dang Bent! Contact "Tina Golder" for Details on Dale Golder @(360) 495-0002 Contact 'Strongtower @strongtowerlee@aol.com

Here is the latest from you know who. Klaasend, if there is anything that needs to be edited, please let me know.

I get the strong feeling that Mr. Strongtower is following our blog. 

Probably! I guess I just want to know what his agenda is.

Not only Tina Golder at that phone number but also this:

http://graysharborwashington.com/city/McCleary/business/Williams+Companies+Inc
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« Reply #568 on: October 05, 2009, 10:17:29 PM »

ATTENTION MCCLEARY RESIDENTS:
POST: CCS/STRONGTOWER:
MISSION STATEMENT: PSALM 150:
SUBJECT; DG/DALE GOLDER:
[D]ale Golder may have Dropped off the LE POI/Person of Interest List, however, 'Strongtower has a "LIST" of his own! Just how 'Precise is this List? It is sooooooooo dang 'Percise! Just how 'Bent is this 'Strongtower when he read Dale Golder's Backgroung Rap Sheet, McCleary Cause #00MC0014? He is soooooooooo dang Bent! Contact "Tina Golder" for Details on Dale Golder @(360) 495-0002 Contact 'Strongtower @strongtowerlee@aol.com

Here is the latest from you know who. Klaasend, if there is anything that needs to be edited, please let me know.

I get the strong feeling that Mr. Strongtower is following our blog. 

Probably! I guess I just want to know what his agenda is.

Not only Tina Golder at that phone number but also this:

http://graysharborwashington.com/city/McCleary/business/Williams+Companies+Inc

Wow Klaasend, thank you! So is it safe to assume that someone in the Golder family is a trucker? That is my take.
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« Reply #569 on: October 05, 2009, 10:21:14 PM »

ATTENTION MCCLEARY RESIDENTS:
POST: CCS/STRONGTOWER:
MISSION STATEMENT: PSALM 150:
SUBJECT; DG/DALE GOLDER:
[D]ale Golder may have Dropped off the LE POI/Person of Interest List, however, 'Strongtower has a "LIST" of his own! Just how 'Precise is this List? It is sooooooooo dang 'Percise! Just how 'Bent is this 'Strongtower when he read Dale Golder's Backgroung Rap Sheet, McCleary Cause #00MC0014? He is soooooooooo dang Bent! Contact "Tina Golder" for Details on Dale Golder @(360) 495-0002 Contact 'Strongtower @strongtowerlee@aol.com

Here is the latest from you know who. Klaasend, if there is anything that needs to be edited, please let me know.

I get the strong feeling that Mr. Strongtower is following our blog. 

Probably! I guess I just want to know what his agenda is.

Not only Tina Golder at that phone number but also this:

http://graysharborwashington.com/city/McCleary/business/Williams+Companies+Inc

and isnt KK's boyfriend a truck driver as well?  Is Clifford Golder?   Very interesting...
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« Reply #570 on: October 05, 2009, 10:23:40 PM »

ATTENTION MCCLEARY RESIDENTS:
POST: CCS/STRONGTOWER:
MISSION STATEMENT: PSALM 150:
SUBJECT; DG/DALE GOLDER:
[D]ale Golder may have Dropped off the LE POI/Person of Interest List, however, 'Strongtower has a "LIST" of his own! Just how 'Precise is this List? It is sooooooooo dang 'Percise! Just how 'Bent is this 'Strongtower when he read Dale Golder's Backgroung Rap Sheet, McCleary Cause #00MC0014? He is soooooooooo dang Bent! Contact "Tina Golder" for Details on Dale Golder @(360) 495-0002 Contact 'Strongtower @strongtowerlee@aol.com

Here is the latest from you know who. Klaasend, if there is anything that needs to be edited, please let me know.

I get the strong feeling that Mr. Strongtower is following our blog. 

Probably! I guess I just want to know what his agenda is.

Not only Tina Golder at that phone number but also this:

http://graysharborwashington.com/city/McCleary/business/Williams+Companies+Inc

and isnt KK's boyfriend a truck driver as well?  Is Clifford Golder?   Very interesting...

The Williams Companies Inc Business InformationClaim This ProfileThe Williams Companies Inc is a private company categorized under Gas Transmission Companies and located in Mc Cleary, WA.
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The Williams Companies Inc 
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Employees (Estimated)
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NAICS Code and Description
486210, Pipeline Transportation of Natural Gas Products, Services and Brands
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State of Incorporation
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Years in Business
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Ken Black, Manager — Claim This Profile 

I wonder who Ken Black, the manager is?
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« Reply #571 on: October 05, 2009, 10:31:00 PM »

Ok it looks like this company is on the New York stock exchange. Not to be mean but after seeing where the Golder's live, I doubt they would own a company like that. Maybe someone at the residence is a driver for the company? Not sure
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« Reply #572 on: October 05, 2009, 10:51:46 PM »

Ok it looks like this company is on the New York stock exchange. Not to be mean but after seeing where the Golder's live, I doubt they would own a company like that. Maybe someone at the residence is a driver for the company? Not sure

That's what I'm thinking.  The McCleary address for the business is a PO Box and the phone number the same as Tina Golder.  I just thought it was interresting it came up.
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« Reply #573 on: October 05, 2009, 10:53:56 PM »

Ok it looks like this company is on the New York stock exchange. Not to be mean but after seeing where the Golder's live, I doubt they would own a company like that. Maybe someone at the residence is a driver for the company? Not sure

That's what I'm thinking.  The McCleary address for the business is a PO Box and the phone number the same as Tina Golder.  I just thought it was interresting it came up.

Very interesting!
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« Reply #574 on: October 05, 2009, 10:57:30 PM »

I did notice that he put parenthesis around another letter. DD never did answer me about the whole encrypted thing.
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« Reply #575 on: October 05, 2009, 11:08:23 PM »

The one thing I keep thinking is everyone keeps saying it is someone she must know because the area would not easily be a place one just happens upon. Although if anyone recalls there is a sex offender group that meets at a church or something, that may bring people into the area.

So in looking at those we know she knew and who may have something hinky about them this alice walters pops up. Who is this person and why are there other Alice Walters with no city, only US listed and is 18 years old? Where would she have met this person, on line maybe? In person? Can anyone get into her myspace?

Tracy, early on we were researching a church in the area that appeared to take in drug addicts, or people recently released from prison.  It was in McCleary as I recall.  Can anyone remember the details of all this...I know we had pictures etc of events.

AZSunny

Maybe you can find info on the church you are looking for in the following thread that DD created.

Janet

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http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5683.0


That is it,  I think TracyGirl was asking about it.  I just can't remember all the details...and I am older than you too!   LOL

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« Reply #576 on: October 05, 2009, 11:16:12 PM »

Hi all!  i usually sit in the corner (and my hubby would tell me i should mind my own business and stay in the corner right about now lol)...but I have to go out on a limb here and stand in DD's corner in regards to the Golders involvement in lindsey's disappearance, and that time is running out and Lindsey needs to be found NOW, winter is coming !
(!I am not a local,, nor do I know any locals, including the Golders  I have merely  followed this case online from day one.  An example I could give is  if DG's car had any evidence in it , he would NOT have it back already. Trust that I  know that,  at least where I live..
IMO, I  think the Goldera are just collateral damage, nothing to do with Lindsey. Just like some other people that have been 'looked at'. Yes there's a lot of problems in mccleary. As there is in Everytown USA. Were not here for that...

It is  A diversion from the truth.
By whom? I dunno.. LE? Hmmm.  Or..
Parents...of kids?
Kids who do know something or worse yet, were involved. (I also think someone older with authority was involved, but will keep that to myself right now lol)
I'm focused on  the kids/teens right now.  I can't decide if she went with her/him /them willingly at first or not, but I lean toward yes at first, then it quickly turned to 'not so much'...Either way, something bad happened, in the woods, or on someones land, near the woods, either  accidental or planned,  and she is no longer with us.
And those kids aren't talking outside the witness group... Yet. Or are they?
Ya know, when it cones to interrogating minors. LE has to cross all T's and dot all I's. LE isn't going to advertise info about minors, they probably can't, legally...
But someone like DD... She doesn't have T's or I's to watch.
And she certainly couldnt tell us about it if she did, comprende?Smile
I'm just sayin'...
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« Reply #577 on: October 05, 2009, 11:19:38 PM »

Here is an older message he left on a news article as a comment

ATTENTION; OPERATION FIND LINDSEY BAUM:
POST: DNA/DESKTOP PUBLISHING AIRWAVES
POST: BPU/BEHAVIORAL PROFILING UNIT:
SUBJECT: WAYNE SCOTT WATNE: YOUR BEING PROFILED:
DNA/BPU Profiles Serial Killers, Missing Persons, Specializing in Missing Children. Citizens of McCleary. Did you know that the Clueless Witness who nobody knows anything about, male/female, etc., had Zero Authority Seperating Lindsey Baum from her Brother, Josh Baum on their way to their Friends House? No Phone to the Mother! Find Mysterious Witness & Solve the Case.
Considering the Fact that “WAYNE SCOTT WATNE” Lives right around the Corner from the Baum Residence, tells me he’s the Guy!!
Coments To; (253) 831-8429
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http://www.greenriverkillerinductivestudy.com
5303 PACIFIC HWY E.
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« Reply #578 on: October 05, 2009, 11:20:37 PM »

Sorry I forgot the last line of his post

URGENCY: $5500 Reward now Offered for Information leading to the Abductor’s Trail to Walla Walla!!!
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« Reply #579 on: October 05, 2009, 11:21:11 PM »

Ok it looks like this company is on the New York stock exchange. Not to be mean but after seeing where the Golder's live, I doubt they would own a company like that. Maybe someone at the residence is a driver for the company? Not sure

Maybe I'm missing something, but what is it that makes you think its on the NYSE? Just curious because the annual sales are no high enough to be listed, NYSE or AMEX, and really too small to be OTC traded, plus I see no ticker symbol.......am I missing something
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