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« Reply #660 on: October 06, 2009, 04:27:23 PM »

I think I recall a post that someone suggested maybe it was a locals band's name, does that sound right?

My memory is not the best, I think it is just full, lol.

Yes,  that is what I remember.  I don't know if it were a fact, or a suggestion.   

I think it might have been Island who said it and it was just a suggestion.
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« Reply #661 on: October 06, 2009, 04:27:35 PM »

I know this must have been answered, but I have looked back and have been unable to find it. Where did/does M. Baum work? TIA

It is a call center outside of McCleary, pretty sure.
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« Reply #662 on: October 06, 2009, 04:28:34 PM »

i also think its significant that HO specifically said something about the beer bottles in his dog report. why say this? maybe there is more to it. i'm sure there were tons of beer bottles out in the woods. i really think there is something more to this.

i think its great that we are looking into the golders. how could we not? especially after reading the affidavit of probable cause. my gut tells me they are not involved. i still think kk's discrepencies, her son's injury and bad stitch job, and mb's hesitance to even talk to HO or tim miller and some other things need to continue to be looked at, although everytime i look at those my head spins out of control!
I agree, and I know that I'm still looking at KK, and Melissa Baum.

I am on the branch with you. 
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« Reply #663 on: October 06, 2009, 04:29:28 PM »

I know this must have been answered, but I have looked back and have been unable to find it. Where did/does M. Baum work? TIA

It is a call center outside of McCleary, pretty sure.

Thank you. I don't think I have ever heard that.
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« Reply #664 on: October 06, 2009, 04:41:12 PM »

I was wondering if we should check out some of the SO's in Elma. It seems that many people who live in McCleary have relatives in Elma and vice versa. It also seems like people who have lived in McCleary have also lived in Elma and vice versa. Add to this the fact that kids in McCleary go to Elma for school, don't they? There are a lot more SO's in Elma than McCleary.
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« Reply #665 on: October 06, 2009, 04:43:53 PM »

Everytime I see TG my heart stops and I think for a moment, oh my god they think I am Kona! lol, then I remember her name 

Sunny I have been searching for other uses for the name Alice Walters, such as maybe a character in a show or book, a name of a band, TV show, just a slang name and I come up with nothing. Do you know who said it was a local bands name?  Seems strange this band would not have a website, public myspace, facebook, twitter account, nothing. 

When I read that name I immediately thought of Alice Cooper the rock star and also thought it could be a 'my name is Sue' kind of a thing from good 'ole Hank Jr.

Me too Scandi, either that or someone posing as a woman maybe. Have you looked at the other "alice Walters" websites? I posted I think 4 links to others that seemed a hinky to me 

No, I will have to go find and read them tonight.  I remember as early as July 6th one of our old time posters over yonder picked up on Alice Walters and posted about why she couldn't get it out of her mind.  I'll go read that tonight too.  xox

PS:  How is your hubby?
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« Reply #666 on: October 06, 2009, 04:43:57 PM »

That crazy poster guy, how long has been after WW? anyone know? When was the first post he did on him?

Leroy thank you for posting the comment from DD. See this Alice Walters is strange for sure but what is more strange is on myspace you see a couple of account with no pic, or one has a pic of a cat, a black one at that, then the age is 18. What I also find strange is Lindsey used another name and not the normal "disturbed" name which leads me to believe it was a secret.

Here are the myspace's that bother me. There are a ton of Alice's,http://www.myspace.com/458423135
http://www.myspace.com/496569693 (This one shows 4 different young girls as friends)
http://www.myspace.com/480197876 (this one is with Lindseys)
http://www.myspace.com/d343434
http://www.myspace.com/466873420 (not sure about this one, it is stated she is 73.
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« Reply #667 on: October 06, 2009, 04:48:10 PM »

That crazy poster guy, how long has been after WW? anyone know? When was the first post he did on him?

Leroy thank you for posting the comment from DD. See this Alice Walters is strange for sure but what is more strange is on myspace you see a couple of account with no pic, or one has a pic of a cat, a black one at that, then the age is 18. What I also find strange is Lindsey used another name and not the normal "disturbed" name which leads me to believe it was a secret.

Here are the myspace's that bother me. There are a ton of Alice's,http://www.myspace.com/458423135
http://www.myspace.com/496569693 (This one shows 4 different young girls as friends)
http://www.myspace.com/480197876 (this one is with Lindseys)
http://www.myspace.com/d343434
http://www.myspace.com/466873420 (not sure about this one, it is stated she is 73.

Thanks for that Tracygirl, I won't have to go searching tonight!   
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« Reply #668 on: October 06, 2009, 04:49:47 PM »

Can a mod please fix the first link I posted to the myspace accounts? I messed up and didn't space right. Thank you

My husband is doing fine thank you for asking.
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« Reply #669 on: October 06, 2009, 04:52:22 PM »

Forgot this one, it is the one with a "TM" on the name or pic 

http://www.myspace.com/from_autumn_to_ashes67
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« Reply #670 on: October 06, 2009, 04:53:51 PM »

That crazy poster guy, how long has been after WW? anyone know? When was the first post he did on him?

Leroy thank you for posting the comment from DD. See this Alice Walters is strange for sure but what is more strange is on myspace you see a couple of account with no pic, or one has a pic of a cat, a black one at that, then the age is 18. What I also find strange is Lindsey used another name and not the normal "disturbed" name which leads me to believe it was a secret.

Here are the myspace's that bother me. There are a ton of Alice's,http://www.myspace.com/458423135
http://www.myspace.com/496569693 (This one shows 4 different young girls as friends)
http://www.myspace.com/480197876 (this one is with Lindseys)
http://www.myspace.com/d343434
http://www.myspace.com/466873420 (not sure about this one, it is stated she is 73.

IIRC, on MySpace, if you list your age as being under 18 then it is automatically set for private.  That is why 18 is such a popular age for the younger kids who want everyone and anyone to see there page.  Maybe I should ask *Tom* and confirm    

I don think much of the one in PA or the one in MI.  Both of those pages seem to have "friends" in the same area. 
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« Reply #671 on: October 06, 2009, 04:55:55 PM »

It has been discussed that Clifford may not be Dale's father.  Could it be that Tena has previously been married to a Baum?

Just speculating.  Could our researchers do their thing.  Please.

Janet

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Tena Golder's maiden name is Tena M. Vaughn.
Diane's name is Diane Vaughn Dubois.


Janet, am looking for any connection between Tena and the Baum's. 

Will post first what we have on Tena Golder, and then work on the other names.   
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« Reply #672 on: October 06, 2009, 04:57:06 PM »

Forgot this one, it is the one with a "TM" on the name or pic 

http://www.myspace.com/from_autumn_to_ashes67

As in Trade Mark??  hmmm.

Thanks for posting all the myspace links.  Like Scandi said, wont have to go a hunt for them later.

Ok - I'm leaving the office so I will be back in a bit.
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« Reply #673 on: October 06, 2009, 05:05:27 PM »


Tena Marie Golder


associated names:
Tena M Golder
Tina Golder
Tena Vaughn
Tena M Vaughn


age 45 - Apr 1964


149 Foreman Rd
Mccleary, WA 98557
(360) 495-xxxx - a Land Line phone
has aerial map of home
3 Addresses in Mccleary, WA


cities/states:
Mccleary, WA 
Olympia, WA 
Phoenix, AZ 
Flagstaff, AZ      


possible relatives:
Adam D Golder 
Clifford Donald Golder - age 45 (also listed age 48)
Dale Allen Golder 
Dan Golder 
Don Golder
Donald Clifford Golder - age 45 (also listed age 48)
 

Tena and Clifford were married on May 6, 1983 at 12:00:00 AM
in Grays Harbor County, WA
http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/ViewRecord.aspx?RID=6965A9B997FBA7B5C94F082C26D26D6C


Myspace - set to private
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=68713598


Personal profiles:
Tena's nickname online
konamochalvr   Location: MCCLEARY, WASHINGTON


Genealogy forum:
http://genforum.genealogy.com/michaelis/messages/82.html
Re: charles c michaelis brn.1866
On October 19, 2007 at 17:03:36
Tena Golder wrote: This is from my aunt...
---------->>>> CLAUDIA JACOBSON (MICHAELIS) maiden
MY DADS NAME WAS MONROE MICHAELIS, HIS DADS NAME WAS CHARLES CHARLIE MICHAELIS, MARRIED TO MAE MONROE
THEY HAD FOUR CHILDERN,
ARTHUR, WILLIAM, VERNIE,(A GIRL) MONROE
MONROE MICHAELIS, ARTS WIFE WAS ANNA WILLAIMS
WIFES NAME WAS ROSE
VERNIE HUSBANDS NAME WAS DALE WORLEY, AND MONROE MICHAELIS WAS MARRIED TO LIBERTRY ELLEN SARA RUSSELL (MY MOTHER)
THEY ENDED UP IN SHELTON, WA WHERE I WAS BORN.

   
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www.peoplefinders.com
www.ussearch.com
www.pipl.com
www.veromi.net
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« Reply #674 on: October 06, 2009, 05:06:04 PM »

I know this must have been answered, but I have looked back and have been unable to find it. Where did/does M. Baum work? TIA

It is a call center outside of McCleary, pretty sure.
Worked at the dollar store in Elma, for MM
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« Reply #675 on: October 06, 2009, 05:07:18 PM »

I was wondering if we should check out some of the SO's in Elma. It seems that many people who live in McCleary have relatives in Elma and vice versa. It also seems like people who have lived in McCleary have also lived in Elma and vice versa. Add to this the fact that kids in McCleary go to Elma for school, don't they? There are a lot more SO's in Elma than McCleary.
McCleary kids only go to Elma for high school.
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« Reply #676 on: October 06, 2009, 05:07:29 PM »

Interesting note about Kona, from the above info, it appears that she and husband were married at midnight.  ??  lol... okies. 



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« Reply #677 on: October 06, 2009, 05:17:58 PM »

Interesting note about Kona, from the above info, it appears that she and husband were married at midnight.  ??  lol... okies. 


Wyks, have performed several at the midnight hour.  The strangest to me are the 2 I did -- 1 at 7 a.m. and one at 8 a.m.  Now that to me was the strangest, course I am not a morning person.
 
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« Reply #678 on: October 06, 2009, 05:34:30 PM »

karma the pic of Lindsey is very cute, thank you. She has a very sweet smile.

As you all know, I don't beleive MB or Josh had anything to do with it and since I don't I want to thank you for still looking at the possibilty. Who knows, I could be wrong!

I honestly think the people who were out that night lent to LE's statement the last person to see her was at 9:30 (or whatever time). I wish we knew where all of the other people where though, She may have been taken right from there or a few blocks away.

I think Alice Walters may have something to do with all of this, what do you all think?

I agree the Baums may not have anything to do with it, but we are back to square one. If she was last seen at 9:30, why don't we know who it was that last saw her then? What is the secret? I am not sure we even know Alice Walters really is. Do you think she is the witness that last saw Lindsey? I am scratching my head just like everyone else. 

The witness siting is not a secret, the name starts with a R, (I can't recall the name, sorry) she is the same person what broke up the argument between Lindsey and Josh. She worked with MB, not sure if they still do work together and if this is the same person that helped drive MB around, I think MM said a co worker was helping her get to and from work.
I don't recall that witness's name ever being mentioned.Tracy,where did you read that?
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« Reply #679 on: October 06, 2009, 05:45:37 PM »


 
Hi Monkeys
This post has mad me so sad.

I'm catching up on reading so will be leaving soon but maybe DD is right.Maybe we all should not depend on DD for info and just go on doing what we do best.......forum investigating for innocent victims.

To someone who asked about the Diane Dubois who posted on Dale Golder's MS(I don't know if you all have this info yet)
Tena Golder's maiden name is Tena M. Vaughn.
Diane's name is Diane Vaughn Dubois.


Morning monkeys! 

I thought it was a 'Denise Dubois' posting on DG's myspace?  I could be wrong, will have to check back on that. 

But it just occured to me....  Dubois??    

As in Amber Dubois, the missing girl from California?  Escondido, I think. 

IIRC, Amber's aunt came to help search for Lindsey, isn't that right?   Wonder if she lives in the area?  Wouldn't it be something if these Dubois families are related!! 

You're correct Wyks,it's Denise Vaughn Dubois.That would be something if they are related.....I thought the Dubois on those MS pages were the same from the Laura Recovery Center at first.
Speaking of the LRC,I thought Jess told us that the LRC would never return to McCleary?They were there this past weekend.
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