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« Reply #400 on: October 05, 2009, 02:08:57 PM »

wyks...

thank you for that post! my head is literally spinning right now!

the name coincidence at the church is really strange. this makes no sense. ugh. it's wayy too coincidental for my liking but i still dont understand how its related to lindsey.

i'd be very interested in knowing whether or not dg had an atv or access to one.

my gut is still telling me that he's not involved.

i really think it's possible lindsey was injured in some sort of accident out in the woods and i think she went there willingly. do i have a lot of facts to back that up? not really but i wouldn't be suprised if people were out in the woods on atvs and something accidently happened to LB.

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I somehow believe that an ATV "accident" would have implied a 911 call.

However ... an unintended death in the act of wrongdoing or ... an unintended death which resulted from an implusive action that could not be taken back ... may imply a coverup.

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« Reply #401 on: October 05, 2009, 02:11:05 PM »



Ok, someone help me understand. I realize how protective DD is of Kona, but according to this post of hers, is she implying that Kona or someone in her family may be a witness? I thought she asked them to help her do some researching, so how could they be a witness to what happened to LB that night

Quote from: Sister on September 25, 2009, 07:35:43 PM
Quote from: doubledecker on September 25, 2009, 07:25:52 PM
just remember, if you OUT this person, you might be outing the witness
.  Mccleary is a tiny town, this person is not safe if people figure out they said something.


dd, this is very serious and assuredly is not a game.  You are so right, a person could be in grave danger for no reason other than an address.
I pray people will use common sense and not a sense of having their brief moments of fame.



thanks sister, I know you understand... and hopefully others will also.  people don't realize what is going on here.  if they figure it out, but then stop and think about who this is, you will understand, so please, think, maybe this person was trying to help, not do anything.

I agree, IM. 

And the puzzling thing for me, which I'd like for DD to address is...

On the one hand, she is warning us about not 'outing' the person/witness.  On the other hand, she did highly suggest that some do their own research and not rely so heavily on her to share hers, (something like that).  That folks would find things out themselves and finally understand.

So how are we to research, worrying about not 'outing' this person/witness, whoever it is, at the same time?  How do we even begin to know who not to 'out', who not to research.  IMO, that warning effectively shuts down any research of our own, for fear of 'outing' ... someone ... that we wouldn't intend to, not knowing ahead of time. 

Which is why I waited for so long, waited for her answers, her info, her research.  Which has not come. 

And that's why some of us got tired of waiting.  This is what we come here for, to read, to dig, to see if there's any puzzle piece we can find, that may be helpful in finding Lindsey. 

All IMO.  Throw bananas at will, am ready to catch em.   

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« Reply #402 on: October 05, 2009, 02:16:29 PM »

This person denise dubois left dale a message on the myspace at 9:31 on 6/26 this is her myspace page. http://www.myspace.com/425305404

The message says she left him a gift, one of those things one would click on, on myspace. (this myspace is the strangest thing, I must say)


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She is from McCleary WA and is 45. anyone hear of this person before?
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« Reply #403 on: October 05, 2009, 02:18:01 PM »

Twelve members are out there and it is very quiet.  Please somebody say something or are you all still reading?

 

I had several windows open, myspace accts, notes... etc... going back and forth, while typing a long post.  Am here.. with all those windows closed now!! 

 
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« Reply #404 on: October 05, 2009, 02:22:12 PM »

tamiko's mom- for most people any type of accident would result in a 911 call, but think about it. there were beer bottles found at the same place where lb was tracked by HO's dogs.  what if people were drinking out there, there was an accident, and now the whole thing is one big coverup. hence, all of the lying from key players in the case who may have known people could have been out in the woods. maybe they even know or suspect that lindsey was out there.

if someone who was intoxicated caused an accident in which lb was injured or maybe even killed, they might have just hid the body to try to hide the crime, rather than telling the truth and prob getting involunatry manslaughter charges.

again, this is just my opinion i could be wayy off
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« Reply #405 on: October 05, 2009, 02:22:18 PM »



Ok, someone help me understand. I realize how protective DD is of Kona, but according to this post of hers, is she implying that Kona or someone in her family may be a witness? I thought she asked them to help her do some researching, so how could they be a witness to what happened to LB that night

Quote from: Sister on September 25, 2009, 07:35:43 PM
Quote from: doubledecker on September 25, 2009, 07:25:52 PM
just remember, if you OUT this person, you might be outing the witness
.  Mccleary is a tiny town, this person is not safe if people figure out they said something.


dd, this is very serious and assuredly is not a game.  You are so right, a person could be in grave danger for no reason other than an address.
I pray people will use common sense and not a sense of having their brief moments of fame.



thanks sister, I know you understand... and hopefully others will also.  people don't realize what is going on here.  if they figure it out, but then stop and think about who this is, you will understand, so please, think, maybe this person was trying to help, not do anything.

I agree, IM. 

And the puzzling thing for me, which I'd like for DD to address is...

On the one hand, she is warning us about not 'outing' the person/witness.  On the other hand, she did highly suggest that some do their own research and not rely so heavily on her to share hers, (something like that).  That folks would find things out themselves and finally understand.

So how are we to research, worrying about not 'outing' this person/witness, whoever it is, at the same time?  How do we even begin to know who not to 'out', who not to research.  IMO, that warning effectively shuts down any research of our own, for fear of 'outing' ... someone ... that we wouldn't intend to, not knowing ahead of time. 

Which is why I waited for so long, waited for her answers, her info, her research.  Which has not come. 

And that's why some of us got tired of waiting.  This is what we come here for, to read, to dig, to see if there's any puzzle piece we can find, that may be helpful in finding Lindsey. 

All IMO.  Throw bananas at will, am ready to catch em.   



On top of that Wks, if DD just asked her to research why did she start posting in Aug/Sep 09? Wouldn't it have made more sense for her just to report her info to DD, than join the posting especially if she were worried about someone figuring out who she was I hope that made sense
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« Reply #406 on: October 05, 2009, 02:22:44 PM »

I have a paid site I use from time to time. I don't like it that much because it doesn't always give me information, such as when I run the name ronald baskett I get a person all over wa but I cannot get a backround run for him, don't know why.

I have multiple cities for this person. Is the person Sebatian found around this same age?

RONALD BASKETT    OLYMPIA  WA  98501       
RONALD BASKETT    FEDERAL WAY  WA  98023       
RONALD BASKETT    TACOMA  WA  98409       
RONALD BASKETT  53  MOSES LAKE  WA  98837       
RONALD BASKETT    SEATTLE  WA  98126       
RONALD BASKETT  53  AUBURN  WA  98001   


Hi TG!
You are so awsome! Yes, this is the one that I ran across as well. What makes me  is he is not listed as a registered SO and is out walking around in society right now.     

 

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« Reply #407 on: October 05, 2009, 02:27:46 PM »

I see DD is in the rafters.  Now maybe we can get some direction.  Boy we need it.
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« Reply #408 on: October 05, 2009, 02:28:59 PM »

I'm sure hoping DD comes on today to explain some of this, and hopefully about Clifford 
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« Reply #409 on: October 05, 2009, 02:31:02 PM »

I see DD is in the rafters.  Now maybe we can get some direction.  Boy we need it.

Now DD I see you are gone.  You were there, where did you go?  We need you.
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« Reply #410 on: October 05, 2009, 02:31:41 PM »

DENISE DUBOIS 53 00-00-1956 PO BOX MCCLEARY WA 98557 Full Report
DENISE R DUBOIS   907 W SIMPSON AVE MCCLEARY WA 98557 Full Report
DENISE R DUBOIS   904 W SIMPSON AVE MCCLEARY WA 98557 Full Report
DENISE R DUBOIS   166 AVE NE D310 MCCLEARY WA 98557 Full Report
 
 
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« Reply #411 on: October 05, 2009, 02:33:03 PM »

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http://www.kirotv.com/news/19934096/detail.htmlGround Search Suspended For Missing McCleary Girl
Search Intensifies Into Her Online History
Posted: 6:21 pm PDT July 2, 2009
Updated: 3:05 pm PDT July 6, 2009

MCCLEARY, Wash. -- The ground search for a missing Grays Harbor County girl has been suspended, but the search into her Internet history is intensifying.

Lindsey Baum, 10, disappeared June 26 while walking home from a friend’s house and there has been no sign of her since.

Police are now checking entries in her MySpace page and doing a forensic analysis of her computer looking for new clues.

They found an entry from Lindsey a month ago saying, "I've been getting a lot of nightmares lately and I have this bad feeling that something bads gonna happen.”

“That's why we're having the computer looked at now forensically to see if there's any other information that may have been deleted or in some other file we didn't access," said Rick Scott of Grays Harbor County Sheriff's Office.

The initial analysis shows no evidence Lindsey communicated with anyone online that may have been involved in her disappearance.
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« Reply #412 on: October 05, 2009, 02:37:39 PM »

This person denise dubois left dale a message on the myspace at 9:31 on 6/26 this is her myspace page. http://www.myspace.com/425305404

The message says she left him a gift, one of those things one would click on, on myspace. (this myspace is the strangest thing, I must say)


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Hey Dale,
I left you a gift. Click and pick it up.
COME JOIN MY TEAM ON GREENSPOT.

She is from McCleary WA and is 45. anyone hear of this person before?

Please comment on this. Is my imagination getting the best of me?
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« Reply #413 on: October 05, 2009, 02:38:02 PM »

WOW.. sorry that post was sooooo long!   



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« Reply #414 on: October 05, 2009, 02:39:17 PM »

I think I need to recap: He is all over the net regarding Lindsey, Nancy Moyer and other missing persons in the state of Washington. He makes threats laced with religion. I checked out the ONLY Ronald Baskett in the area as he put his name on one of his posts. He was arrested for child molestation. He apparently was given a 60 MONTH sentence. Some idiot judge knocked it down to 90 DAYS with the provision that he complete "Sex Offender rehab". I have never even heard of such a thing! Naturally, he does not complete his "rehab". He is arrested again. He proceeds to file lawsuit after lawsuit, appeal after appeal. He sued the jail for not allowing him his medications. He sued his therapist for making him watch porn and not allowing him a "Christian therapist". He has MANY other court documents and lawsuits but I was only able to access the one. I found a site that allows you to look up current prisoners. He does not appear to be incarcerated. I am sickened that these people continue to roam free and get slaps on the wrist. Now Washington state has a "Sex Offender Rehab program"? Are you kidding me. Is this the same Ronald Baskett that that is writing all of these posts? Probably, but I cannot prove it. The very least I can do is write the State of Washington and ask them why they are allowing Sex offenders extremely light sentences for enrollment in "Sex offender rehab". I would also love to see their SUCCESS RATE with this idiotic program.

Thanks for that recap, Sebastian!  And yes, as you mentioned in another post, he has the same phone number on many of his posts over the net, re Lindsey and the other missing child cases.  He also includes the same email address in nearly all of his posts.  In one, he refers to another of the names he uses online.  All of those posts, when looked at together, does show this to be the same person. 
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« Reply #415 on: October 05, 2009, 02:41:18 PM »


Well the " nursey worker position" along with 13 people who keep the nursery staffed is what got my attention.  Maybe it is multiple nursery's.  Seemed a little overwhelming to me.  I hope you can understand why I jumped to that conclusion.  I need to go back and reasssess.  Thanks. 

Am thinking that all the names listed were folks who were applying for one or two positions as nursery worker.  I could be wrong tho. 
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« Reply #416 on: October 05, 2009, 02:43:13 PM »

There are 2 different denise dubois, one's age if listed at 53 and is from McCleary her middle initial is R. There is another one who's age I do not know, it is not listed and she has the middle initial as L and is from another area of washington, CHEWELAH

I am going to assume they may have the ages mixed up? Denise Dubois on the myspace who posted to Dale on 6/26 at 9:31 states her age as 45 and lives in McCleary.
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« Reply #417 on: October 05, 2009, 02:45:13 PM »

I think I need to recap: He is all over the net regarding Lindsey, Nancy Moyer and other missing persons in the state of Washington. He makes threats laced with religion. I checked out the ONLY Ronald Baskett in the area as he put his name on one of his posts. He was arrested for child molestation. He apparently was given a 60 MONTH sentence. Some idiot judge knocked it down to 90 DAYS with the provision that he complete "Sex Offender rehab". I have never even heard of such a thing! Naturally, he does not complete his "rehab". He is arrested again. He proceeds to file lawsuit after lawsuit, appeal after appeal. He sued the jail for not allowing him his medications. He sued his therapist for making him watch porn and not allowing him a "Christian therapist". He has MANY other court documents and lawsuits but I was only able to access the one. I found a site that allows you to look up current prisoners. He does not appear to be incarcerated. I am sickened that these people continue to roam free and get slaps on the wrist. Now Washington state has a "Sex Offender Rehab program"? Are you kidding me. Is this the same Ronald Baskett that that is writing all of these posts? Probably, but I cannot prove it. The very least I can do is write the State of Washington and ask them why they are allowing Sex offenders extremely light sentences for enrollment in "Sex offender rehab". I would also love to see their SUCCESS RATE with this idiotic program.

Sebastian I think you have enough to call the fbi and report this. Please do not call anyone, that is not a safe thing to do. This was a fantastic catch, great job!
It is maddening how child sex offenders are treated as if this was a crime with no consequences. Here in California the ninth circuit court is trying to make it unconstitutional to look at some one's computer for child porn, what???? The attitude is backwards I would think and anyone with 1/2 a brain can figure that one out.

Sebastian, I agree with TG.  Reporting this would be good, but let the FBI/LE do the contacting.  Wouldn't want for you to get caught up in the crossfire, so to speak.  Be safe! 
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« Reply #418 on: October 05, 2009, 02:50:20 PM »



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Harry Oakes appears to be well trained. 

Did the Baum family hire him to come to Mccleary to search ?

I sure hope so !   

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5810.msg935349#msg935349


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I am really surprised that Harry gave you that information since he is bound by the contract not to discuss his findings with anyone but LE & FBI.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5810.msg936373#msg936373
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« Reply #419 on: October 05, 2009, 02:50:47 PM »

Twelve members are out there and it is very quiet.  Please somebody say something or are you all still reading?
I'll ask a question since it didn't get answered last night. Who is TaraTara they were talking about early evening yesterday? TIA JSM
I'll try  Some people thought she was Tena's sister in law. I guess she is not, but lives very close to their property 
Thank you No Rose. I wasn't sure.

Don't forget. She said she did allow DG to babysit her children didn't she?
Thanks, you are right, so then obviously she is on friendly terms with the Golder family.
Didn't she post something about her son and the army or was that the Golder lady? I am so confused. That's why I never post here.

Yes she did, JSM.  Her son went into the army, and TG's son went in a bit later.  Go ahead and post when you are able, we're all confused with this whole mess, and trying to make some sense of it.  Posting info and asking questions, sharing what we do know, all helps to sort things out.   
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