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Topic: JAMES EDWARD HOGAN~AMERICAN EMBASSY VICE-CONSUL IN CURACAO 9/24/09 (Read 222572 times)
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Re: JAMES EDWARD HOGAN~AMERICAN EMBASSY VICE-CONSUL IN CURACAO 9/24/09
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https://pcl.uscourts.gov/search
Case 1:11-cr-00028-SPM-GRJ Document 62-1 Filed 07/27/12
Attachment 1 - E-Mails and Other Relevent Events
38 Pages
continued
All of the following emails were deleted before 9/30/2009, (provided by Mike W.)
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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https://pcl.uscourts.gov/search
Case 1:11-cr-00028-SPM-GRJ Document 62-1 Filed 07/27/12
Attachment 1 - E-Mails and Other Relevent Events
38 Pages
continued
Email #24 was deleted before 9/30/2009, (provided by Mike W.)
Email #25 was deleted between 9/30/2009 and 1/15/2010 from Abby's yahoo account; and was also deleted from Jim Hogan's email account between 9/30 and 10/22/2009
Email #26 was deleted between 9/30/2009 and 1/15/2010 from Abby's yahoo account; and was also deleted from Jim Hogan's email account between 9/30 and 10/22/2010
Email #27 was deleted before 9/30/2009, (provided by Mike W.)
Email #28 was deleted before 9/30/2009, (provided by Mike W.)
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: JAMES EDWARD HOGAN~AMERICAN EMBASSY VICE-CONSUL IN CURACAO 9/24/09
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September 02, 2012, 03:35:40 AM »
https://pcl.uscourts.gov/search
Case 1:11-cr-00028-SPM-GRJ Document 62-1 Filed 07/27/12
Attachment 1 - E-Mails and Other Relevent Events
38 Pages
continued
Email #29 Deleted between 9/30/09 and 1/15/10 from Abby Hogan's Yahoo account, also deleted from Jim Hogan's email account between 9/30 and 10/22/10
Email #30 Deleted before 9/30/09, (provided by Mike W.)
Email #31 Deleted before 9/30/09, (provided by Mike W.)
9/24/2009 07:57 - After arriving at work, Jim Hogan logs onto his wife's Facebook page and accesses two other Facebook profiles (the names are blacked out, one has an initial W. and the other has a last name initial G.)
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: JAMES EDWARD HOGAN~AMERICAN EMBASSY VICE-CONSUL IN CURACAO 9/24/09
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September 02, 2012, 04:04:40 AM »
https://pcl.uscourts.gov/search
Case 1:11-cr-00028-SPM-GRJ Document 62-1 Filed 07/27/12
Attachment 1 - E-Mails and Other Relevent Events
38 Pages
continued
Email #31 continued here from last post, was deleted before 9/30/2009, (provided by Mike W.)
Email #32 Deleted before 9/30/2009, (provided by Mike W.)
Email #33-36 were all forwarded to Jim Hogan's email account. They were all deleted from Jim Hogan's email account before 9/30, were found in Abby Hogan's sent folder on 9/30/09; and deleted from the sent folder between 9/30/09 and 1/15/10.
Email #37 Deleted before 9/30/2009, (provided by Mike W.)
9/24/2009 21:02
- Facebook message from Jim to his stepdaughter W. "Great talking with you..."
(This is also the night Jim leaves the house for the last time)
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: JAMES EDWARD HOGAN~AMERICAN EMBASSY VICE-CONSUL IN CURACAO 9/24/09
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Interesting stuff to say the least! Thank you for posting the documents and all your work on this
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Re: JAMES EDWARD HOGAN~AMERICAN EMBASSY VICE-CONSUL IN CURACAO 9/24/09
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Quote from: MuffyBee on September 02, 2012, 09:51:06 AM
Interesting stuff to say the least! Thank you for posting the documents and all your work on this
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You're welcome MuffyBee!
There's a lot more. After reading so much yesterday, I just sat here shocked and numb for a really long time.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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Quote from: texasmom on September 02, 2012, 10:49:00 AM
Quote from: MuffyBee on September 02, 2012, 09:51:06 AM
Interesting stuff to say the least! Thank you for posting the documents and all your work on this
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You're welcome MuffyBee!
There's a lot more. After reading so much yesterday, I just sat here shocked and numb for a really long time.
A lot more???!!
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Quote from: MuffyBee on September 02, 2012, 10:49:43 AM
Quote from: texasmom on September 02, 2012, 10:49:00 AM
Quote from: MuffyBee on September 02, 2012, 09:51:06 AM
Interesting stuff to say the least! Thank you for posting the documents and all your work on this
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You're welcome MuffyBee!
There's a lot more. After reading so much yesterday, I just sat here shocked and numb for a really long time.
A lot more???!!
IMO, yes. The remaining emails from the court document were sent while the search was going on for James Edward Hogan and iirc a few were months later.
Keep that in mind.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: JAMES EDWARD HOGAN~AMERICAN EMBASSY VICE-CONSUL IN CURACAO 9/24/09
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September 02, 2012, 11:19:22 AM »
https://pcl.uscourts.gov/search
Case 1:11-cr-00028-SPM-GRJ Document 62-1 Filed 07/27/12
Attachment 1 - E-Mails and Other Relevent Events
38 Pages
continued
Email #38 Deleted before 9/30/2009, (provided by Mike W.)
Email #39 Deleted before 9/30/2009, (provided by Mike W.)
Email #40 Not deleted as of 1/15/10
Email #41 Not deleted as of 1/15/10
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: JAMES EDWARD HOGAN~AMERICAN EMBASSY VICE-CONSUL IN CURACAO 9/24/09
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September 02, 2012, 11:32:56 AM »
https://pcl.uscourts.gov/search
Case 1:11-cr-00028-SPM-GRJ Document 62-1 Filed 07/27/12
Attachment 1 - E-Mails and Other Relevent Events
38 Pages
continued
Email #42 Deleted before 9/30/2009, (provided by Mike W.)
Email #43 Not deleted as of 1/15/10
Email #44 Not deleted as of 1/15/10
Email #45 Not deleted as of 1/15/10
Email #46 Not deleted as of 1/15/10
Email #47 Deleted between 9/30/2009 and 1/15/10
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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September 02, 2012, 11:55:36 AM »
https://pcl.uscourts.gov/search
Case 1:11-cr-00028-SPM-GRJ Document 62-1 Filed 07/27/12
Attachment 1 - E-Mails and Other Relevent Events
38 Pages
continued
Email #48 Deleted before 9/30/2009, (provided by Mike W.)
Email #49 Deleted before 9/30/2009, (provided by Mike W.)
Email #50 Not deleted as of 1/15/10
Email #51 Deleted between 9/30/2009 and 1/15/10
Email #52 Not deleted as of 1/15/10
Email #53 Deleted between 9/30/2009 and 1/15/10
Email #54 Deleted between 9/30/2009 and 1/15/10
Email #55 Deleted between 9/30/2009 and 1/15/10
Email #56 Not deleted as of 1/15/10
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: JAMES EDWARD HOGAN~AMERICAN EMBASSY VICE-CONSUL IN CURACAO 9/24/09
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https://pcl.uscourts.gov/search
Case 1:11-cr-00028-SPM-GRJ Document 62-1 Filed 07/27/12
Attachment 1 - E-Mails and Other Relevent Events
38 Pages
continued
Email #57 Not deleted as of 1/15/10
Email #58 Deleted between 10/1/09 and 1/15/10
Email #59 Not deleted as of 1/15/10
Email #60 Not deleted as of 1/15/10
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: JAMES EDWARD HOGAN~AMERICAN EMBASSY VICE-CONSUL IN CURACAO 9/24/09
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September 02, 2012, 12:23:37 PM »
https://pcl.uscourts.gov/search
Case 1:11-cr-00028-SPM-GRJ Document 62-1 Filed 07/27/12
Attachment 1 - E-Mails and Other Relevent Events
38 Pages
continued
All of the following emails were provided by Mike W.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: JAMES EDWARD HOGAN~AMERICAN EMBASSY VICE-CONSUL IN CURACAO 9/24/09
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September 02, 2012, 12:31:58 PM »
https://pcl.uscourts.gov/search
Case 1:11-cr-00028-SPM-GRJ Document 62-1 Filed 07/27/12
Attachment 1 - E-Mails and Other Relevent Events
38 Pages
continued
Email #65 Not deleted as of 1/15/10
Email #66 Not deleted as of 1/15/10
Email #67 Provided by Mike W.
Email #68 Provided by Mike W.
Email #69 Provided by Mike W.
#70 - Facebook message from F. Hogan's account.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Thanks for all your hard work, TM.
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Quote from: Buckeye on September 02, 2012, 01:29:17 PM
Thanks for all your hard work, TM.
You're welcome Buckeye!
I understand how you feel...
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Remember, there were a LOT more emails deleted.
https://pcl.uscourts.gov/search
Case 1:11-cr-00028-SPM-GRJ Document 62 Filed 07/27/12 Page 4 of 16
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE
NORTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA
GAINESVILLE DIVISION
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
Plaintiff,
CASE NO.: 1:11-CR-28-SPM-GRJ
v. ELECTRONICALLY FILED
ABBY HOGAN,
Defendant
::snipping2::
Forensic analysis of various email accounts established that – after her husband’s disappearance –
Defendant deleted
at least 365 emails
that were relevant to the investigation and responsive to questions she was being asked by U.S. law enforcement
, including all emails discussed above. She deleted emails not only from her account, but she accessed her husband’s email account at least twice on different days and selectively deleted only those emails that related to the events leading up to his disappearance. The government was able to retrieve these deleted emails from various sources, including Defendant’s lover.
::snipping2::
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: JAMES EDWARD HOGAN~AMERICAN EMBASSY VICE-CONSUL IN CURACAO 9/24/09
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I keep thinking about that last phone call.
I need to look back at the maps, and determine how far the Lion's Dive resort is from Blue Rock aka Barbara Beach.
Did Jim really make that call, or did someone else? His phone was found in the water along with the knife, near where his clothes were found.
If he made that call, and there was any hint of him harming himself, or his being in danger...WHY didn't Abby call the authorities right away? IF he did harm himself, could his life have been saved, or at least his remains have been found? As it was, so many hours passed before he was even reported missing.
It still bothers me that NO REMAINS were ever found, nothing.
And Abby still won't talk about that call?
So many of the emails I posted really bother me.
#52 keeps coming to mind...who was that to? I'm thinking
maybe
one of her sister's? Abby was obviously not being honest with them. She KNEW why he was out so late.
It's just really shocking to me how Abby could possibly have thought at least this much of the truth wouldn't be found out, with all of the emails etc. But she continued to lie, as well as being seemingly more concerned with her lover than anything!
Did she have no conscience? Did she have no regrets? He'd been her husband for almost 24 years, he'd raised her daughter as his own and they'd had four other children together! She HAD to know her children would find out! It's just mind boggling to me.
Being able to do that makes me wonder what else she was capable of?
JMHO
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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https://pcl.uscourts.gov/search
Case 1:11-cr-00028-SPM-GRJ Document 65 Filed 07/31/12
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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https://pcl.uscourts.gov/search
Case 1:11-cr-00028-SPM-GRJ Document 67 Filed 07/31/12
20 Pages
to be continued...
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
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===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
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