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« Reply #40 on: October 11, 2009, 05:48:48 PM »

The Levi Page Show
Levi Page Show
Date / Time: 10/11/2009 9:00 PM

Category: Current Events

Call-in Number: (347) 838-9781

 
           

Jon Gosselin formery of "Jon and Kate plus 8" spars with HLN's Nancy Grace on "The Insider!" Body Language Expert Dr. Lillian Glass joins us to analyze the TV smackdown! Also, Investigative journalist Steph Watts, Bounty Hunter Leonard Padilla, and Crime Analyst Sheryl McCollum discuss the latest headlines in the cases of Caylee Anthony and Haleigh Cummings.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/LeviPage
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« Reply #41 on: October 11, 2009, 05:50:17 PM »

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/10/11/Haleigh-Anthony-Update



Live now!!

Im saying it here, CINDY kiss your blood money goodbye & the NE just walked themselves into a firestorm

LOL- Capp, my memory is off, but isn't there a business/ownership connection between the Enquirer and that "Todd Black" person?
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« Reply #42 on: October 11, 2009, 05:55:15 PM »

Mtnmom? I'm really thinking it's likely that Caylee died at home after Casey left and waited for George to go to work. Is that what you're thinking?

it depends on what time JT saw them at walmart. Ive read two accounts one seems to be noon but her text show her at the home area all day up untill 4:18pm and other accounts say 4 pm ish.

Apart from cell pings there is also evidence that she was using her laptop and the home computer during the day. I don't know the exact times though.
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« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2009, 05:56:07 PM »

I missed it- they are discussing something else now.
can someone summarize what RG had to say, please

Yes-please ... for me also.  I didn't hear it either ... am late logging in.  The Rev. Grund so needs Mr. Morgan to right the wrongs to his name.
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« Reply #44 on: October 11, 2009, 06:06:23 PM »

I get the distinct impression that Linda Drane Burdick and her team are very thorough, dedicated, and determined to obtain justice for little Caylee.  I do not see her placing Mr. Thompson on their witness list unless his testimony was completely valid.
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« Reply #45 on: October 11, 2009, 06:15:54 PM »


kc's account ledger from 11/20/08 to 9/2/09

Beginning Balance $420.53

Deposits
11/26/08 - J. Iley - mail  -   $8.00                                             
11/28/08 - Robert Uolner -DROP deposit  - $79.00 (I think this is mispelled and might be Colner)
12/13/08 - Ryan, Mandie - mail -  $20.00
12/30/08 - Chris Greath???? (part of name missing) mail  -  $20.00
12/30/08 - Steve Jones - mail -  $20.00

January 09
1/10/09 - Maria Erevia  -  mail  -  $100.00
1/14/09 - Craig McElwee - mail   - $20.00
1/23/09 Michael Kelly - mail - $25.00*
1/23/09 - Ken Karnig - mail   - $10.00
    NOTE: Tampa's Ken Karnig, who runs Supernaught.com, did not return calls or e-mails and was hostile when a television crew conducted an ambush interview several years ago.A computerized records search shows that a Ken Karnig at his address has a criminal record for distributing drugs and a misdemeanor count of domestic battery.  http://george.loper.org/~george/trends/2008/Mar/973.html

1/30/09 - Michael Kelley - mail -$25.00*
1/30/09 - Andrea Sowers - mail -  $40.00** (not sure if Andrea Sowers and Andrea Somers are the same person - might be a typo and might not be.)
1/30/09 - Mike Dombrowski - mail -  $10.00

February 09
2/6/09 - M. J. Kelley - mail - $25.00*
2/6/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00*
2/6/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00*
2/6/09 - Jennifer Bland - mail - $20.00
2/6/09 - Jennifer Finley - mail - $10.00
2/6/09 - Maril (yn?) Bloch - mail - $20.00 (I wonder if anything happened or was said just before 2/6 that would spur people to send money to her jail account?)
2/10/09  - M.J. Kelley - mail - $25.00*
2/13/09 -  A. Miller - DROP - $25.00
2/14/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00 *
2/14/09 - David Antolic - mail $25.00 http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=125459 might be him - a heavy metal guitarist.
2/23/09 - Walsh, Lloyd - mail - $10.00
2/24/09 - Jack Ames - mail - $15.00
2/24/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00*
2/26/09 - Jean Broome - mail - $20.00
2/27/09 - M. Kelley - mail - $50.00*
2/27/09 - A. Somers - mail - $15.00**

March 09
3/6/09 - Robert Schuman - mail - $15.00
3/18/09 - Geroge Anthony - DROP - $100.00***
3/24/09 - Tracy Conroy - Mail - $25.00
3/24/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00*
3/24/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00*
3/24/09 - Jen Finley - mail -$10.00
3/31/09 - Mark Anthony - mail - $50.00 ??? Relative??

April 09
4/2/09 - Jarrett Brown - mail - $5.00
4/2/09 - Casey Wertz - mail - $100.00??
4/2/09 - Joseph Grajt (part missing) - mail - $10.00
4/9/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00*
4/14/09 - Michael Kelley -mail - $25.00*
4/15/09 - George Anthony - DROP - $100.00***
4/30/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00*

May 09
5/12/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00*
5/22/09 - M Kelley - mail - $50.00*

June 09
6/7/09 - George Anthony - DROP - $100.00***
6/16/09 - A. Somers - mail - $10.00**
6/19/09 Ginger Tshud - mail - $50.00
6/30/09 - Andrea Somers - mail - $20.00

July 09
7/9/09 - George Anthony - DROP - $100.00***
7/9/09 - Andrea Somers - mail - $10.00 **
7/22/09 - Andrew Somers - mail $10.00 (Andrea/Andrew?)**
7/25/09 - Andrea Somers - mail - $10.00**

August 09
8/4/09 - George Anthony - DROP $100.00***

Sepember 09
9/2/09 - Erevia, Maria - mail -$50.00
9/17/09 - George Anthony - DROP - $100.00***
9/18/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00*

The records I have are from  11/20/2008 - 9/29/09

daddy-o didn't start sending money until March 09....no deposit in May 09. Makes me THINK someone told him to start putting money in the account.
 











     
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Natalee, We will never forget.
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« Reply #46 on: October 11, 2009, 06:22:29 PM »

SEEME:

I went back through everything on WFTV and this was actually what I thought looked like a heart outline [ observed from the WFTV "Duct tape Slideshow" ] -- it was photo Number Six ... the speciman pinprick holes are also there ... the heart shape which I see is facing forward toward you as you are looking at it.

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« Reply #47 on: October 11, 2009, 06:29:14 PM »

Mtnmom? I'm really thinking it's likely that Caylee died at home after Casey left and waited for George to go to work. Is that what you're thinking?

it depends on what time JT saw them at walmart. Ive read two accounts one seems to be noon but her text show her at the home area all day up untill 4:18pm and other accounts say 4 pm ish.

Apart from cell pings there is also evidence that she was using her laptop and the home computer during the day. I don't know the exact times though.

Sorry I am trying to work and follow at the same time, In the morning KC was uploading to her Photobucket acc through the home IP, in the afternoon she was active from 1pm to 3pm on the family computer. So George did not see her leave. Hope this helps with a time line and with the fact you can probably ignore anything George has to say pertaining to that time line. Including of course what they were wearing.


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« Reply #48 on: October 11, 2009, 06:37:36 PM »

The basis for the NE article was the emails from Cindy to D. Casey. They were never meant for publication. I saw them in one of the doc dumps. I was horrified that she would even suggest such a thing as a human sacrifice by anyone. I just thought she was a crazy b. when I read them.
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The church my GD's were baptised in is an old old faith and they believe in
the devil. As part of the baptism, they cast out the devil from the presence of the candidates for baptism. The faith is Ukrainian Orthodox. My Grandparents were Ukrainian Catholic. They also believe in the devil taking on human forms. These beliefs are part of a faith that has been going on for centuries.
The Anglican Church here does some " healing ceremonies " where the spirit
is worked on. So, I cannot fault Rev. Grund for his religion or his beliefs. I also think the main Catholic Church in Rome goes in for exorcisms.
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If all the NE did was publish those emails, I don't think Grund has a basis for a lawsuit.
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It just gives everyone a glimpse into Cindy's brain and in my mind, she needs to have something cast out of her. She has fallen off the edge of the world into a dark abyss. If the prosecution brings that in, the human sacrifice
that Cindy proposed, the jury will have the same reaction to Cindy and the rest of her thoughts as the rest of the real world. They should bring that in first, then see if anything else Cindy has to say has any validity with a jury.

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« Reply #49 on: October 11, 2009, 07:00:20 PM »

The basis for the NE article was the emails from Cindy to D. Casey. They were never meant for publication. I saw them in one of the doc dumps. I was horrified that she would even suggest such a thing as a human sacrifice by anyone. I just thought she was a crazy b. when I read them.
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The church my GD's were baptised in is an old old faith and they believe in
the devil. As part of the baptism, they cast out the devil from the presence of the candidates for baptism. The faith is Ukrainian Orthodox. My Grandparents were Ukrainian Catholic. They also believe in the devil taking on human forms. These beliefs are part of a faith that has been going on for centuries.
The Anglican Church here does some " healing ceremonies " where the spirit
is worked on. So, I cannot fault Rev. Grund for his religion or his beliefs. I also think the main Catholic Church in Rome goes in for exorcisms.
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If all the NE did was publish those emails, I don't think Grund has a basis for a lawsuit.
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It just gives everyone a glimpse into Cindy's brain and in my mind, she needs to have something cast out of her. She has fallen off the edge of the world into a dark abyss. If the prosecution brings that in, the human sacrifice
that Cindy proposed, the jury will have the same reaction to Cindy and the rest of her thoughts as the rest of the real world. They should bring that in first, then see if anything else Cindy has to say has any validity with a jury.



Kat, the Anthonys (namely Cindy) will be sued & that does have merit - I stated the NE entered the firestorm the accusations have caused, the NE didnt invent the story, Cindy did & advanced it along with the rest of them that have tried to pin this on Jessie and/or his father

I believe the deposits by George were requested so it shows support & the amount increased to earlier deposits he made before her indictment, ITA^

As far as what Rev Grund said in his call in today, he called in and as at the beginning of the show so if anyone wants to listen go to that link above and there is a playback available - you can turn it off after his call, if desired (as I did).
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« Reply #50 on: October 11, 2009, 07:04:49 PM »

I agree, if it comes up during the trial that JT saw Casey at Walmart 6/16, the defense will chew him up. But if the State uses his testimony about other things, can the defense even bring up the Walmart Story? Sorry, I just am not educated in that area.

Speaking of chewing up and spitting out....I can't wait for George and Cindy to testify!!  Monkey Devil! Monkey Devil!

The defense can only cross examine on what was brought up in direct.
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« Reply #51 on: October 11, 2009, 07:07:43 PM »


kc's account ledger from 11/20/08 to 9/2/09

Beginning Balance $420.53

Deposits
11/26/08 - J. Iley - mail  -   $8.00                                             
11/28/08 - Robert Uolner -DROP deposit  - $79.00 (I think this is mispelled and might be Colner)
12/13/08 - Ryan, Mandie - mail -  $20.00
12/30/08 - Chris Greath???? (part of name missing) mail  -  $20.00
12/30/08 - Steve Jones - mail -  $20.00

January 09
1/10/09 - Maria Erevia  -  mail  -  $100.00
1/14/09 - Craig McElwee - mail   - $20.00
1/23/09 Michael Kelly - mail - $25.00*
1/23/09 - Ken Karnig - mail   - $10.00
    NOTE: Tampa's Ken Karnig, who runs Supernaught.com, did not return calls or e-mails and was hostile when a television crew conducted an ambush interview several years ago.A computerized records search shows that a Ken Karnig at his address has a criminal record for distributing drugs and a misdemeanor count of domestic battery.  http://george.loper.org/~george/trends/2008/Mar/973.html

1/30/09 - Michael Kelley - mail -$25.00*
1/30/09 - Andrea Sowers - mail -  $40.00** (not sure if Andrea Sowers and Andrea Somers are the same person - might be a typo and might not be.)
1/30/09 - Mike Dombrowski - mail -  $10.00

February 09
2/6/09 - M. J. Kelley - mail - $25.00*
2/6/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00*
2/6/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00*
2/6/09 - Jennifer Bland - mail - $20.00
2/6/09 - Jennifer Finley - mail - $10.00
2/6/09 - Maril (yn?) Bloch - mail - $20.00 (I wonder if anything happened or was said just before 2/6 that would spur people to send money to her jail account?)
2/10/09  - M.J. Kelley - mail - $25.00*
2/13/09 -  A. Miller - DROP - $25.00
2/14/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00 *
2/14/09 - David Antolic - mail $25.00 http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=125459 might be him - a heavy metal guitarist.
2/23/09 - Walsh, Lloyd - mail - $10.00
2/24/09 - Jack Ames - mail - $15.00
2/24/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00*
2/26/09 - Jean Broome - mail - $20.00
2/27/09 - M. Kelley - mail - $50.00*
2/27/09 - A. Somers - mail - $15.00**

March 09
3/6/09 - Robert Schuman - mail - $15.00
3/18/09 - Geroge Anthony - DROP - $100.00***
3/24/09 - Tracy Conroy - Mail - $25.00
3/24/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00*
3/24/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00*
3/24/09 - Jen Finley - mail -$10.00
3/31/09 - Mark Anthony - mail - $50.00 ??? Relative??

April 09
4/2/09 - Jarrett Brown - mail - $5.00
4/2/09 - Casey Wertz - mail - $100.00??
4/2/09 - Joseph Grajt (part missing) - mail - $10.00
4/9/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00*
4/14/09 - Michael Kelley -mail - $25.00*
4/15/09 - George Anthony - DROP - $100.00***
4/30/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00*

May 09
5/12/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00*
5/22/09 - M Kelley - mail - $50.00*

June 09
6/7/09 - George Anthony - DROP - $100.00***
6/16/09 - A. Somers - mail - $10.00**
6/19/09 Ginger Tshud - mail - $50.00
6/30/09 - Andrea Somers - mail - $20.00

July 09
7/9/09 - George Anthony - DROP - $100.00***
7/9/09 - Andrea Somers - mail - $10.00 **
7/22/09 - Andrew Somers - mail $10.00 (Andrea/Andrew?)**
7/25/09 - Andrea Somers - mail - $10.00**

August 09
8/4/09 - George Anthony - DROP $100.00***

Sepember 09
9/2/09 - Erevia, Maria - mail -$50.00
9/17/09 - George Anthony - DROP - $100.00***
9/18/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00*

The records I have are from  11/20/2008 - 9/29/09

daddy-o didn't start sending money until March 09....no deposit in May 09. Makes me THINK someone told him to start putting money in the account.
   

Thanks Sunny.   
Anyone know who Michael Kelly is?   What's wrong with these people sending her money.   
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« Reply #52 on: October 11, 2009, 07:16:17 PM »

I think the Anthony's should go to jail for their interference and be sued by everyone who they tried to toss under the bus. I will listen to the link later.
I might even buy the NE and read the entire article. 
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« Reply #53 on: October 11, 2009, 07:17:24 PM »

I agree, if it comes up during the trial that JT saw Casey at Walmart 6/16, the defense will chew him up. But if the State uses his testimony about other things, can the defense even bring up the Walmart Story? Sorry, I just am not educated in that area.

Speaking of chewing up and spitting out....I can't wait for George and Cindy to testify!!  Monkey Devil! Monkey Devil!

The defense can only cross examine on what was brought up in direct.

Better yet, after the defense tries to pick them up after a few prosecutorial blows of reality over their lies & rehabiliate their scum characters, the prosecution gets to REDIRECT on what is stated during cross & that will be when the knockouts occur & the jury will remember its lasting final impression.
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« Reply #54 on: October 11, 2009, 07:17:55 PM »

I get the distinct impression that Linda Drane Burdick and her team are very thorough, dedicated, and determined to obtain justice for little Caylee.  I do not see her placing Mr. Thompson on their witness list unless his testimony was completely valid.

Ono...I  agree...I got the feeling they know something we don't regarding his statement.
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« Reply #55 on: October 11, 2009, 07:20:47 PM »

PS   If I had to hedge a bet today, Id say the prosecution will not call Jim Thompson & the defense has nothing to gain by calling him if they remember all he said against their client via his reported observations of her behavior and attitude toward and about Caylee.
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« Reply #56 on: October 11, 2009, 07:29:59 PM »


kc's account ledger from 11/20/08 to 9/2/09

Beginning Balance $420.53

Deposits
11/26/08 - J. Iley - mail  -   $8.00                                             
11/28/08 - Robert Uolner -DROP deposit  - $79.00 (I think this is mispelled and might be Colner)
12/13/08 - Ryan, Mandie - mail -  $20.00
12/30/08 - Chris Greath???? (part of name missing) mail  -  $20.00
12/30/08 - Steve Jones - mail -  $20.00

January 09
1/10/09 - Maria Erevia  -  mail  -  $100.00
1/14/09 - Craig McElwee - mail   - $20.00
1/23/09 Michael Kelly - mail - $25.00*
1/23/09 - Ken Karnig - mail   - $10.00
    NOTE: Tampa's Ken Karnig, who runs Supernaught.com, did not return calls or e-mails and was hostile when a television crew conducted an ambush interview several years ago.A computerized records search shows that a Ken Karnig at his address has a criminal record for distributing drugs and a misdemeanor count of domestic battery.  http://george.loper.org/~george/trends/2008/Mar/973.html

1/30/09 - Michael Kelley - mail -$25.00*
1/30/09 - Andrea Sowers - mail -  $40.00** (not sure if Andrea Sowers and Andrea Somers are the same person - might be a typo and might not be.)
1/30/09 - Mike Dombrowski - mail -  $10.00

February 09
2/6/09 - M. J. Kelley - mail - $25.00*
2/6/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00*
2/6/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00*
2/6/09 - Jennifer Bland - mail - $20.00
2/6/09 - Jennifer Finley - mail - $10.00
2/6/09 - Maril (yn?) Bloch - mail - $20.00 (I wonder if anything happened or was said just before 2/6 that would spur people to send money to her jail account?)
2/10/09  - M.J. Kelley - mail - $25.00*
2/13/09 -  A. Miller - DROP - $25.00
2/14/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00 *
2/14/09 - David Antolic - mail $25.00 http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=125459 might be him - a heavy metal guitarist.
2/23/09 - Walsh, Lloyd - mail - $10.00
2/24/09 - Jack Ames - mail - $15.00
2/24/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00*
2/26/09 - Jean Broome - mail - $20.00
2/27/09 - M. Kelley - mail - $50.00*
2/27/09 - A. Somers - mail - $15.00**

March 09
3/6/09 - Robert Schuman - mail - $15.00
3/18/09 - Geroge Anthony - DROP - $100.00***
3/24/09 - Tracy Conroy - Mail - $25.00
3/24/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00*
3/24/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00*
3/24/09 - Jen Finley - mail -$10.00
3/31/09 - Mark Anthony - mail - $50.00 ??? Relative??

April 09
4/2/09 - Jarrett Brown - mail - $5.00
4/2/09 - Casey Wertz - mail - $100.00??
4/2/09 - Joseph Grajt (part missing) - mail - $10.00
4/9/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00*
4/14/09 - Michael Kelley -mail - $25.00*
4/15/09 - George Anthony - DROP - $100.00***
4/30/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00*

May 09
5/12/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00*
5/22/09 - M Kelley - mail - $50.00*

June 09
6/7/09 - George Anthony - DROP - $100.00***
6/16/09 - A. Somers - mail - $10.00**
6/19/09 Ginger Tshud - mail - $50.00
6/30/09 - Andrea Somers - mail - $20.00

July 09
7/9/09 - George Anthony - DROP - $100.00***
7/9/09 - Andrea Somers - mail - $10.00 **
7/22/09 - Andrew Somers - mail $10.00 (Andrea/Andrew?)**
7/25/09 - Andrea Somers - mail - $10.00**

August 09
8/4/09 - George Anthony - DROP $100.00***

Sepember 09
9/2/09 - Erevia, Maria - mail -$50.00
9/17/09 - George Anthony - DROP - $100.00***
9/18/09 - Michael Kelley - mail - $25.00*

The records I have are from  11/20/2008 - 9/29/09

daddy-o didn't start sending money until March 09....no deposit in May 09. Makes me THINK someone told him to start putting money in the account.
   

Thanks Sunny.   
Anyone know who Michael Kelly is?   What's wrong with these people sending her money.   

Sassy, I haven't a clue who he is and the name is common enough that it would be like looking for the needle in the haystack. I would really love to know what makes someone send money to someone who has been charged with murder period...much less a defenseless child and her own child to boot!!  It is beyond me!!
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Thanks Sunny.   
Anyone know who Michael Kelly is?   What's wrong with these people sending her money.   

Guy from California
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0904/16/ng.01.html
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« Reply #58 on: October 11, 2009, 07:32:16 PM »

I think the Anthony's should go to jail for their interference and be sued by everyone who they tried to toss under the bus. I will listen to the link later.
I might even buy the NE and read the entire article. 

Kat, I agree with your thinking. I just keep hanging onto the hope that they will be brought up on charges...I'd love to see both of them perp walked outta their house just as kc was!!
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Natalee, We will never forget.
Zahra, run with the Angels

PUT ON YOUR BIG GIRL PANTIES AND GET OVER IT!  It's not about you or me.....It's about the Missing and the Murdered
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« Reply #59 on: October 11, 2009, 07:47:13 PM »

The basis for the NE article was the emails from Cindy to D. Casey. They were never meant for publication. I saw them in one of the doc dumps. I was horrified that she would even suggest such a thing as a human sacrifice by anyone. I just thought she was a crazy b. when I read them.
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The church my GD's were baptised in is an old old faith and they believe in
the devil. As part of the baptism, they cast out the devil from the presence of the candidates for baptism. The faith is Ukrainian Orthodox. My Grandparents were Ukrainian Catholic. They also believe in the devil taking on human forms. These beliefs are part of a faith that has been going on for centuries.
The Anglican Church here does some " healing ceremonies " where the spirit
is worked on. So, I cannot fault Rev. Grund for his religion or his beliefs. I also think the main Catholic Church in Rome goes in for exorcisms.
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If all the NE did was publish those emails, I don't think Grund has a basis for a lawsuit.
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It just gives everyone a glimpse into Cindy's brain and in my mind, she needs to have something cast out of her. She has fallen off the edge of the world into a dark abyss. If the prosecution brings that in, the human sacrifice
that Cindy proposed, the jury will have the same reaction to Cindy and the rest of her thoughts as the rest of the real world. They should bring that in first, then see if anything else Cindy has to say has any validity with a jury.


Cindy just got 're-baptized' - you can see how well that is working out..... 
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