MONKEY MUSINGS DAILY OPEN DISCUSSION #53 11/24/09 - 1/21/10

[KCJackie]

Hey CBB

How you doing? I am so tried I can hardly keep my eyes open. Walking 3 miles a day with brother. I am not use to that much exercise.

  Hey you - how you doin? 

I am doin is about all I can say.  How about you?

sounds like the same as you - just barely doin, lol.

[Green Eyes]

I see you have started exercising?  wth is wrong with you?

It's called older brother

[Green Eyes]

Hey CBB

How you doing? I am so tried I can hardly keep my eyes open. Walking 3 miles a day with brother. I am not use to that much exercise.

  Hey you - how you doin? 

I am doin is about all I can say.  How about you?

sounds like the same as you - just barely doin, lol.

 

[KCJackie]

CBB - where are you?  Don't make me start channeling you.

[Green Eyes]

CBB - where are you?  Don't make me start channeling you.

  Maybe she is

[KCJackie]

CBB - where are you?  Don't make me start channeling you.

  Maybe she is

Probably

Oh well, maybe we can all catch up with each other in here real soon.  I miss all of us chatting away. 

Get some rest yourself - workout Queen, lol. 

Sweet Dreams....

[Green Eyes]

Well were did she go?   

[KCJackie]

Well were did she go?   

LMAO - maybe she spotted her handcuffs and found something else to do.

[Green Eyes]

CBB - where are you?  Don't make me start channeling you.

  Maybe she is

Probably

Oh well, maybe we can all catch up with each other in here real soon.  I miss all of us chatting away. 

Get some rest yourself - workout Queen, lol. 

Sweet Dreams....

Me Too !!! You get some rest too. I think I am going to crash. Been a long day.
Sweet Dreams & God Bless

[crazybabyborg]

Goood Morning GreenEyes.   

Bearly,that story makes me   

CBB,Bud'sGirl looks beautiful!   

Good Afternoon Trimm

Bearly I am speechless. 

CBB  Hope your sons surgery goes well. Hope your ex visit is fast

BG  Love your Valentine avi.  My grandson told me" That one is so cool grandma why don't you have on that cool"

Thank you GE!    I'm quirky about things I dread but are inevitable. I just ignore them until I HAVE to face it, and then get through it one step at a time. His ACL is completely torn in two in both legs and his knee caps need cleaning up from prior surgeries. They can only do one at a time and the recovery is a year long ordeal for each. He had a choice to use a cadaver tendon for the repair, or his own. He chose his own even though the level of pain is higher. The ultimate outcome is somewhat better with that choice.

He's having the surgery in Oak Ridge (about 100 miles Soutwest of me) next week. Right now I couldn't even tell you what day (Tuesday, I think, but when I say I ignore stuff like this, I mean I IGNORE it!) He'll remind me the day before, and we'll head out early the next morning. I started reading an article about the procedure, and got so far as to read about the groove in the bone they'd drill to lay the tendon in and stopped. I know everything I need to know. I know he's in constant pain now and really limited in what he can do daily. He needs to have it done. I know that there isn't anything possible that can help him get through it, that I won't get for him or do. I know that beyond that, it's out of my hands, and I've put it in God's.

I hope he and his Father relish those football memories the rest of their lives, because he's sure paying a price for it now.
 

I'm praying for you both CBB.  My oldest had the same procedure his senior year in HS.  He chose to use part of his patella tendon to replace the acl rather than the cadaver.  He'd already been through a lot during his HS years with football injuries.  To sum it up, it was rough.      I hope your son's experience will be better, and he will be willing to go through it again with the other leg in a year.

One thing that really helped right after the surgery was a unit similar to the one shown in these links:

http://www.dme-direct.com/donjoy-iceman-ice-man-cold-therapy-cryotherapy-1100-don-joy/

http://www.dme-direct.com/polar-care-300-cold-therapy-breg-unit-system-polarcare/

We brought it home with us after the surgery, the pump circulates the ice cold water through tubing around the knee for several hours before you need to fill it with ice again.  It helps with the pain and/or swelling.  We didn't have to buy it, we just rented it (cheap) and returned it to the doctor's office at one of his check ups.  If they don't offer one to your son through the hospital or doctor's office, I think you can rent them at medical supply stores.

TM..................... THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!! This is the first tangible thing I know I can do and come Monday, I'll be on it like white on rice! The surgery is on Thursday......... Michael mentioned it at dinner so I now know the day..... (I knew it was one of those "T" days   ). I'll call and see if they'll send one with him and if not, I'll have one waiting. I was planning on cleaning his house the day before we left, just because I wanted things as comfortable as possible for him when he got home, and because I just have this need to DO SOMETHING!

TM? If you've been through this, could you tell me if a recliner might be useful? I've wondered about that. From what we've been told by the surgeon, I'm anticipating it's going to be a really rough time. How long is it really bad? I'm worried about getting him home. It's a one and a half to 2 hour drive. I'm worried about follow up with the surgeon that far away, but this guy is supposed to be really good. I was pulling for John Hopkins, but he's a grown up and I left the final decision to him.

Years ago, (at age 30), I was told by a hand specialist that in order to address a severe arthritis problem at the base of my thumbs, I needed to have a bone removed in each hand and replaced by a tendon from my inner forearm. They would do one at a time, a year apart. I had the right hand done.............   ................ and swore afterward that the other hand would fall off before I ever had it done again. I've kept to that oath, too. They say you don't really remember the pain of birth. Maybe not, but I'll never, ever forget the pain of that procedure!

I dread this so, so much for him. I'm upbeat with him, but I'm jelly inside. He simply cannot go on like he is though. His knees swell unbelievably from just standing or sitting any length of time. Stairs are killers. Bending is the worst. I've seen him go as white as a sheet and break into a sweat from trying to file stuff for 30 minutes. He walks like he's 90 years old.

It's irrational, but I cannot tell you how I hate HS football. He got a full college scholorship as tight end at Western Ky and re-injured during summer practice. They began to worry they had committed to a player that was going to be plagued with injuries so they pushed him physically way beyond what should ever have done with that injury. They put him playing offense and defense so that he was taking hits the entire practice, every day, all day. He was literally on the field without a break for every play and drill all day long. His dad and I were at each other's throats............ I was worried about him and he was worried he'd never see his son's winning catch pictures splashed in the paper again. The tilt for me was that my son wanted to be there....... he desperately wanted to give it his all. It ended abruptly when he couldn't get up from a play during practice, and couldn't manage to even crawl off the field. He's had surgery to attempt to repair his knees, but they were only marginally successful, resulting in the ACL total tears.

Hopefully, this surgery will give him the repair he needs. The surgeon told him that it can put off the knee replacements he's sure to require for 10 to 15 years. I just want him to be pain free........... 23 year olds should be pain free!

I'm venting................ sorry! Thank you so much, TM! If you can share anything at all with me, I'd so very much appreciate it! 

[crazybabyborg]

 

I'm sorry guys! I was writing my vent post and didn't know you were here!

I hate I missed you, GE and Jackie! 

[crazybabyborg]

I on my way to a birthday party for one of my aunts who just turned 90!  Thought I'd leave you with a couple of recent Petey pics:

Short video taken yesterday of Petey on one of his outdoor excursions: 



Just chllin' watching mom on the computer 

  Petey's as cute as your scenery is beautiful, Klaas!!

Could you please install a Petey safety net? That little rascal's apt to take a flying leap!   

[Bearlyhere]

CBB, hugs to you!  I am praying for you and your son.  I KNOW everything will be all right.  I have placed it in the Lord's hands.

Love you,
 

[crazybabyborg]

CBB, hugs to you!  I am praying for you and your son.  I KNOW everything will be all right.  I have placed it in the Lord's hands.

Love you,
 

   Thank you Miss Bear!     

[can]

Good morning Klaas.  Thank you for fixing me up.

[can]

Greeneyes.  Congratulations on your walking regime.  How long have you been doing this?  I think in time you will feel some benefits.

I began walking in August after a diabetes and high cholesteral result from a physical.  After a while I felt better for it.

Have been avoiding it lately, due to the cold and snow but have made it my New Years resolution to get back to it.  First resolution I've ever made.

Your post has served as a reminder, thank you!  I think it's lovely that you share this time with your brother.    ::MonkeySkate::l

[can]

CBB - you are so right.  Twenty-three year olds should be pain free!  It's so unbearable to see our children suffer! 
Prayers that his surgery and recovery will ease his pain and increase his mobility. 
Luv,
can.

[Green Eyes]

Morning Monkeys

CBB Sorry we missed you. Prayers for you and your son. I had a neighbor years ago that had to have surgery on her feet. She chose to have both done at the same time because she knew she would never have the second surgery because of the pain in recovery. I will never forget going to see her and help when I walked in and she had a casts on both feet and steel rods going though her toes. After it was all over and done she told me she was glad she had chosen to have both done as she would never do it again. I understand not having your second surgery.

Hugs for you both and your son will do fine with your love and support.  It is one of the hardest things being a parent and having our children in pain and not being able to do anything about it. But to help him though this time. I truly believe he will come out of this with flying colors. Just think about when it's done the pain he is living with now will be gone. 

[Green Eyes]

Greeneyes.  Congratulations on your walking regime.  How long have you been doing this?  I think in time you will feel some benefits.

I began walking in August after a diabetes and high cholesteral result from a physical.  After a while I felt better for it.

Have been avoiding it lately, due to the cold and snow but have made it my New Years resolution to get back to it.  First resolution I've ever made.

Your post has served as a reminder, thank you!  I think it's lovely that you share this time with your brother.    ::MonkeySkate::l

Morning Can,

I love your avi CBB made you.

My brother came for a visit. He needs to lose some weight so we walked to help him. It was nice to have that time to talk just him & I without hubs or grand kids around etc.  I know I feel better after our walks. The big test will be if I continue after he leaves. 

[Blue Moon]

Goood Morning GreenEyes.   

Bearly,that story makes me   

CBB,Bud'sGirl looks beautiful!   

Good Afternoon Trimm

Bearly I am speechless. 

CBB  Hope your sons surgery goes well. Hope your ex visit is fast

BG  Love your Valentine avi.  My grandson told me" That one is so cool grandma why don't you have on that cool"

Thank you GE!    I'm quirky about things I dread but are inevitable. I just ignore them until I HAVE to face it, and then get through it one step at a time. His ACL is completely torn in two in both legs and his knee caps need cleaning up from prior surgeries. They can only do one at a time and the recovery is a year long ordeal for each. He had a choice to use a cadaver tendon for the repair, or his own. He chose his own even though the level of pain is higher. The ultimate outcome is somewhat better with that choice.

He's having the surgery in Oak Ridge (about 100 miles Soutwest of me) next week. Right now I couldn't even tell you what day (Tuesday, I think, but when I say I ignore stuff like this, I mean I IGNORE it!) He'll remind me the day before, and we'll head out early the next morning. I started reading an article about the procedure, and got so far as to read about the groove in the bone they'd drill to lay the tendon in and stopped. I know everything I need to know. I know he's in constant pain now and really limited in what he can do daily. He needs to have it done. I know that there isn't anything possible that can help him get through it, that I won't get for him or do. I know that beyond that, it's out of my hands, and I've put it in God's.

I hope he and his Father relish those football memories the rest of their lives, because he's sure paying a price for it now.
 

I'm praying for you both CBB.  My oldest had the same procedure his senior year in HS.  He chose to use part of his patella tendon to replace the acl rather than the cadaver.  He'd already been through a lot during his HS years with football injuries.  To sum it up, it was rough.      I hope your son's experience will be better, and he will be willing to go through it again with the other leg in a year.

One thing that really helped right after the surgery was a unit similar to the one shown in these links:

http://www.dme-direct.com/donjoy-iceman-ice-man-cold-therapy-cryotherapy-1100-don-joy/

http://www.dme-direct.com/polar-care-300-cold-therapy-breg-unit-system-polarcare/

We brought it home with us after the surgery, the pump circulates the ice cold water through tubing around the knee for several hours before you need to fill it with ice again.  It helps with the pain and/or swelling.  We didn't have to buy it, we just rented it (cheap) and returned it to the doctor's office at one of his check ups.  If they don't offer one to your son through the hospital or doctor's office, I think you can rent them at medical supply stores.

TM..................... THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!! This is the first tangible thing I know I can do and come Monday, I'll be on it like white on rice! The surgery is on Thursday......... Michael mentioned it at dinner so I now know the day..... (I knew it was one of those "T" days   ). I'll call and see if they'll send one with him and if not, I'll have one waiting. I was planning on cleaning his house the day before we left, just because I wanted things as comfortable as possible for him when he got home, and because I just have this need to DO SOMETHING!

TM? If you've been through this, could you tell me if a recliner might be useful? I've wondered about that. From what we've been told by the surgeon, I'm anticipating it's going to be a really rough time. How long is it really bad? I'm worried about getting him home. It's a one and a half to 2 hour drive. I'm worried about follow up with the surgeon that far away, but this guy is supposed to be really good. I was pulling for John Hopkins, but he's a grown up and I left the final decision to him.

Years ago, (at age 30), I was told by a hand specialist that in order to address a severe arthritis problem at the base of my thumbs, I needed to have a bone removed in each hand and replaced by a tendon from my inner forearm. They would do one at a time, a year apart. I had the right hand done.............   ................ and swore afterward that the other hand would fall off before I ever had it done again. I've kept to that oath, too. They say you don't really remember the pain of birth. Maybe not, but I'll never, ever forget the pain of that procedure!

I dread this so, so much for him. I'm upbeat with him, but I'm jelly inside. He simply cannot go on like he is though. His knees swell unbelievably from just standing or sitting any length of time. Stairs are killers. Bending is the worst. I've seen him go as white as a sheet and break into a sweat from trying to file stuff for 30 minutes. He walks like he's 90 years old.

It's irrational, but I cannot tell you how I hate HS football. He got a full college scholorship as tight end at Western Ky and re-injured during summer practice. They began to worry they had committed to a player that was going to be plagued with injuries so they pushed him physically way beyond what should ever have done with that injury. They put him playing offense and defense so that he was taking hits the entire practice, every day, all day. He was literally on the field without a break for every play and drill all day long. His dad and I were at each other's throats............ I was worried about him and he was worried he'd never see his son's winning catch pictures splashed in the paper again. The tilt for me was that my son wanted to be there....... he desperately wanted to give it his all. It ended abruptly when he couldn't get up from a play during practice, and couldn't manage to even crawl off the field. He's had surgery to attempt to repair his knees, but they were only marginally successful, resulting in the ACL total tears.

Hopefully, this surgery will give him the repair he needs. The surgeon told him that it can put off the knee replacements he's sure to require for 10 to 15 years. I just want him to be pain free........... 23 year olds should be pain free!

I'm venting................ sorry! Thank you so much, TM! If you can share anything at all with me, I'd so very much appreciate it! 

CBB, My thoughts and prayers go out to your son.  This is just terrible for a 23 yr old to go through.  Western Ky. (very familiar with that school-my son has his degree from there and the techinal college here in BG).  Western really takes football more serious than basketball.  So sorry your son has experienced so much pain in his short life.  I know you are scared to death for him and all you want to do is take that pain away that you know will be there.  You can't do it but he will know you would if your could.  All mothers would and you are no different.  You take care of yourself also cause he needs his Mommy (more than his father-all sons do, nothing against fathers).