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« Reply #960 on: March 25, 2011, 05:47:02 AM »

the are we are wanting searched is a private children's camp. 


thanks for calling Scandi... I am sure that is not kayla over there though, I am pretty dang sure I know where she is .
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« Reply #961 on: March 25, 2011, 01:03:50 PM »

dd-i have a question...i understand if you can't answer

do you think it's possible that dale golder was involved in Lindsey's disappearance, since the camp you think should be searched is the one he worked at?  i'm just wondering because i remember that when the warrants came out to search his home, there was a big thing about how he was being railroaded by people in town who were upset that his mother was writing about the investigation and getting into peoples business (allegedly), and i remember his mother posting on here and other boards...

has new information come to light to make you change your opinion on dale golder?  I understand if you can't answer, I'm just trying to wrap my head around this! thanks again for all of your hard work
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« Reply #962 on: March 25, 2011, 01:04:55 PM »

I do not know if this has anything to do with Lindsey case or not but.....

prisoners are doing some clearing/searching in Mccleary today

i doubt that would have anything to do with lindsey, i think if something was found it could cause some legal problems if lindsey's case went to trial and prisoners found something..a good defense attorney could prob blow that information out of the water
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« Reply #963 on: March 25, 2011, 01:20:37 PM »

I do not know if this has anything to do with Lindsey case or not but.....

prisoners are doing some clearing/searching in Mccleary today

i doubt that would have anything to do with lindsey, i think if something was found it could cause some legal problems if lindsey's case went to trial and prisoners found something..a good defense attorney could prob blow that information out of the water

Maybe the prisoners are doing so much searching as they might be involved in clearing, since it appears this may have been done previously in areas:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6224.msg1242339#msg1242339
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« Reply #964 on: March 25, 2011, 07:42:56 PM »

there was a camerman in front of Rounders...

someone heard NWCN is doing a story or update on the Lindsey case

I don't know anything else yet, will post if I hear more.
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« Reply #965 on: April 01, 2011, 03:38:33 PM »

Prayers for Lindsey.
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« Reply #966 on: April 02, 2011, 12:36:43 AM »

dd-i have a question...i understand if you can't answer

do you think it's possible that dale golder was involved in Lindsey's disappearance, since the camp you think should be searched is the one he worked at?  i'm just wondering because i remember that when the warrants came out to search his home, there was a big thing about how he was being railroaded by people in town who were upset that his mother was writing about the investigation and getting into peoples business (allegedly), and i remember his mother posting on here and other boards...

has new information come to light to make you change your opinion on dale golder?  I understand if you can't answer, I'm just trying to wrap my head around this! thanks again for all of your hard work

wow, I just now saw this post; sorry I missed it.

I don't mind answering that at all... but I doubt I can really explain this very well.  You'd have to know me pretty dang well to understand me or why I do the things I do.  when I research a case I just go with whatever I need to do at the time.  A lot of times what I do does not make a lot of sense to anyone else.  A lot of times I can't tell people what I am doing or what I am thinking.... if I did, and someone told that, then whatever I am doing would not work.  If you remember correctly (and I think you were right there when all of this first started and I told everyone I was going to "flip-flop" on the case, so be forewarned; and that is exactly what I did.  I did say over and over many times... "there is a method to my madness".  That is about all I could say at the time, and basically that is about all I can say now.  One other thing I can say though is whatever it was I was doing has paid off tremendously, and I know there are a lot of people mad at me over this... but ... sometimes that is just the way it has to be... and that is all okay.  I don't mind if people get mad at me or think I am crazy or whatever... as long as whatever I am doing helps to find someone.  I've had people mad at me for years over cases because I will "flip-flop" right in the middle of them.  I'm known to do this.  It does not mean I have changed my mind about something. 

I will research anything, whether it is my theory or someone elses.  Even if I don't agree with it, I'll help research it if I have time...or... if it is not interfering with something I have to do to get at the truth. 

it is very hard to explain things.  I'd be better off not to try, but then you would think I am ignoring you, which I am not. 

so it really comes down to... do I think dale golder is involved?  It's possible. 
Do I think they should have got the search warrant to his mom's house... no I don't(but that is the our "rights" that makes me say that)... do I think there is enough evidence that a jury might convict him of something... a jury?  yes... they are very unpredictable and do not necessarily have to go with the law; although they are suppose to, they don't.   I would think that if the posters on this board and others knew the things I know, I can just about guess every one of them would have him convicted if they were on his jury.

did I find out a lot of information?  yes I did.  not recently but all along, and a little more not too long ago. Basically just confirmation of things I already thought. 

There is a lot of info that is not in the search warrants... things I would have thought would have been better reasons to search his house than the things they actually used.  Why they did not use those things I do not know.  But what is interesting to me is they used what they wanted to in order to get a warrant for his mom's house, yet they did not use those same things to get a warrant for the camp.  I find that very interesting.  If they are going to use that stuff on the warrant application for the house, why not use it for his place of work?  that is just strange to me.  why would they want in his house but not his work?  He not only worked there at the camp, he hung out there all the time too. 

I think the real reason they got the warrants on his house are reasons that have not surfaced.  And they know these reasons, and these reasons should also have them getting a warrant for the camp.  but they didn't and they won't.  a little weird if you ask me.

then they go on to search everyone else after that so you have to wonder what they have on the other people for them to toss out dale and go look at gurley and others after that.  Yet still they do not look at the camp... so maybe they KNOW who did this and just do not have the evidence they need to convict them, therefore, no arrest yet... but it seems to me they are pretty much done with looking at dale golder.. or there is something else dale is involved with that they think is more important and they do not want to interrupt that??? I do not know... you would not think they would do that.

I can tell you this, so many people have lied, including dale and kona and kameron... why I am not sure.  they were lying from minute one.  I always knew kona was lying.  I did not know why and I still don't know why.  I always knew dale lied and failed the ldt.... 9 times.  Kameron lied to LE also.  for some reason no one wanted anyone to know dale and kameron were good friends.  they all said they only worked togther.  That was proven a lie right off.  Now why none of them did not want anyone to know they hung out together, I don't know.  There were VERY GOOD friends, around one another nearly every day, hung out day and night.  yet no one wanted that known.  they all knew the guy in the motorhome had left BEFORE lindsey went missing, yet kona was doing her dangest to point at the guy in the motorhome and say he left the morning after lindsey disappeared... she pretended not to know who this guy is...when someone said he was in jail she assured me she checked and he was not... well he was... for some reason they want to blame the guy in the motorhome, and they do not want anyone to know dale and kameron were good friends. 

so I don't know if that explains anything to you about if I changed my mind or not... but no, I have never changed my mind.  I don't know if dale is involved in the disappearance of lindsey or not.  I believe he and kameron are involved in something.  There are people who know them very well who believe they are involved.  they insiste they are involved.  They insist lindsey is out at that camp.  And because of this that is why I think they should go search the camp.  they searched the house on a lot less info that they have about the camp.  but I can tell you, they are not going to search the camp.  I don't know why but they must know something I don't know.  So we are trying to have someone else search the camp.  Only the camp is not answering anyone who is asking for permission.  So... not a whole lot can be done.
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« Reply #967 on: April 02, 2011, 12:50:55 AM »

I don't really know what else to say.  It very well could be that it is not dale who did anything to lindsey but rather he was lying for someone else.  I don't know, but that is a possibility. He was certainly lying about something.  he also kept running down to the cop shop all the time.  And kona was talking to them all the time also.  kameron was talking to them.  they all seemed to have a lot to say to LE...

people have had death threats over this.  Then at some point one of them threatened one of the other ones.  so there is something going on, but what who knows.  It might not have to do with lindsey at all.  It might have to do with some other crime LE is interested in.  Dale is not the "geeky" guy people think he is, and he has some interesting affiliations, and although they tend to hide, they are not going unnoticed.
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« Reply #968 on: April 03, 2011, 05:15:18 PM »

thanks dd...i know there is a method to your madness Smile

i don't understand why the camp hasn't been searched either.  based on what i remember from the dale golder search warrant and my personal gut feeling, i do believe him to be involved with lindsey's disappearance.  there's just too much stuff that points to him
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« Reply #969 on: April 05, 2011, 01:09:27 AM »

thanks dd...i know there is a method to your madness Smile

i don't understand why the camp hasn't been searched either.  based on what i remember from the dale golder search warrant and my personal gut feeling, i do believe him to be involved with lindsey's disappearance.  there's just too much stuff that points to him

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to tell you the truth I suspect kameron more than I do dale.  It may be that dale is lying for kameron.  It may be that dale helped kameron after the fact.  Or it could be the other way around, but personally I think if kameron was lying for dale, that kameron would have given up dale by now.  

Kameron did want someone else to believe dale did this.  And because of that, this is what set Le looking at dale.  but personally I think kameron was saying and doing more weird things than dale was... dale lied, but we really do not know what all he lied about.. He lied about not being good friends with kameron... kameron told that same lie and got caught and then admitted yes he lied about that.  Kona pretended to not know anything about kameron etc, but she did.  She knew dale and kameron were friends and she could have asked either one of them about the guy in the motorhome, yet she acted like she knew nothing about anyone at that address, but she knew.  So it is strange to me why she was insisting this guy left the next day and tried to point at him... makes you wonder if someone was worried that someone saw lindsey over at that address and they wanted to cover by saying oh she was over at the guy's house in the motorhome.  I don't know, but why lie about the guy in the motorhome, why lie and say dale and kameron only worked together when actually they were best of friends.  

kameron and dale hung out at that camp all the time, even at night.  they were not just working out there, they were going out there at night and being weird.  They were hanging out with kameron's boss out there too.  

kameron also is a pilot and has access to planes, some of which are right across from the camp down the road.  Dale has went flying with Kameron.  What they are doing, who knows.  

Kameron is distributing drugs interstate.  He's laundering money.  He and dale have way too much money to blow.  They are hanging out at clubs and casinos and dale has affiliations that make no sense to me whatsoever... these two are not your geeky nobodies like it seems.  

now are they involved with the disappearance of lindsey?  who knows... there are people who insist they are.  I'm not talking about posters on the net, etc. I'm talking about people who have reason to make an opinioin from things.  I can't explain that.  But LE knows all this stuff.  But they seem to not do anything about searching the camp.  Maybe after they got the warrant on the house and truthfully I can't see how they ever did that, and that info was half bogus... but you would think if they were going to put that through in order to search the house that they would have also put in a warrant application for the camp on the same grounds.  maybe when kona said she was filing a lawsuit they decided they needed more to get another warrant and won't do it without something more concrete.... which that would make sense to me.  If they were to try to go get a warrant now, I bet you the people who made statements before will not do it now.  People said they never said those things, so they certainly are not going to be saying them again, I would not think.  

anyway, until someone comes up with something more concrete and actually saw one of them dispose of a body, no one is going to search out there. And seems the camp does not want anyone searching out there either... so you can't just go get on private property and start searching.  I don't know why the camp will not answer or let anyone out there.  Probably do not want the bad publicity that their employees might have been guilty of killing someone and putting their body out there.  

I personally have done just about everything I can think of to do.  And I still don't know either way if kameron and dale are involved in lindsey's disappearance or not.  If what I am told is true, it is very possible one of them is involved and the other is covering, or they are both involved... I honestly think if dale were involved and kameron knew it, that kameron would have ratted dale off by now.  I think kameron is weak that way.  Dale, hmm, not so sure about him, he might be able to keep his mouth shut.  But they were all running down to the copshop, and I believe if anyone was going to tell anything, they would have done it by now. Unless they are both involved... however, you would think if they are involved they would have shut up and not keep talking to LE.  so maybe they really are not involved and they are just freaked out and paranoid about something else?  If that is the case, then their blabbing about one another has caused them a whole lot of unnecessary problems.  They made themself look guilty by opening their mouths and trying to convince everyone of this and that when it was obvious what they were saying was not true.  Had kamerson never pointed at dale in the first place and had kona never got on the net and started pointing at people and lying probably no one would have been looking at them in the first place.  

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« Reply #970 on: April 05, 2011, 08:39:05 PM »

thanks dd...i know there is a method to your madness Smile

i don't understand why the camp hasn't been searched either.  based on what i remember from the dale golder search warrant and my personal gut feeling, i do believe him to be involved with lindsey's disappearance.  there's just too much stuff that points to him

EDITED TO ADD:  The below statements are the posters opinion and not proven fact.

to tell you the truth I suspect kameron more than I do dale.  It may be that dale is lying for kameron.  It may be that dale helped kameron after the fact.  Or it could be the other way around, but personally I think if kameron was lying for dale, that kameron would have given up dale by now.  

Kameron did want someone else to believe dale did this.  And because of that, this is what set Le looking at dale.  but personally I think kameron was saying and doing more weird things than dale was... dale lied, but we really do not know what all he lied about.. He lied about not being good friends with kameron... kameron told that same lie and got caught and then admitted yes he lied about that.  Kona pretended to not know anything about kameron etc, but she did.  She knew dale and kameron were friends and she could have asked either one of them about the guy in the motorhome, yet she acted like she knew nothing about anyone at that address, but she knew.  So it is strange to me why she was insisting this guy left the next day and tried to point at him... makes you wonder if someone was worried that someone saw lindsey over at that address and they wanted to cover by saying oh she was over at the guy's house in the motorhome.  I don't know, but why lie about the guy in the motorhome, why lie and say dale and kameron only worked together when actually they were best of friends.  

kameron and dale hung out at that camp all the time, even at night.  they were not just working out there, they were going out there at night and being weird.  They were hanging out with kameron's boss out there too.  

kameron also is a pilot and has access to planes, some of which are right across from the camp down the road.  Dale has went flying with Kameron.  What they are doing, who knows.  

Kameron is distributing drugs interstate.  He's laundering money.  He and dale have way too much money to blow.  They are hanging out at clubs and casinos and dale has affiliations that make no sense to me whatsoever... these two are not your geeky nobodies like it seems.  

now are they involved with the disappearance of lindsey?  who knows... there are people who insist they are.  I'm not talking about posters on the net, etc. I'm talking about people who have reason to make an opinioin from things.  I can't explain that.  But LE knows all this stuff.  But they seem to not do anything about searching the camp.  Maybe after they got the warrant on the house and truthfully I can't see how they ever did that, and that info was half bogus... but you would think if they were going to put that through in order to search the house that they would have also put in a warrant application for the camp on the same grounds.  maybe when kona said she was filing a lawsuit they decided they needed more to get another warrant and won't do it without something more concrete.... which that would make sense to me.  If they were to try to go get a warrant now, I bet you the people who made statements before will not do it now.  People said they never said those things, so they certainly are not going to be saying them again, I would not think.  

anyway, until someone comes up with something more concrete and actually saw one of them dispose of a body, no one is going to search out there. And seems the camp does not want anyone searching out there either... so you can't just go get on private property and start searching.  I don't know why the camp will not answer or let anyone out there.  Probably do not want the bad publicity that their employees might have been guilty of killing someone and putting their body out there.  

I personally have done just about everything I can think of to do.  And I still don't know either way if kameron and dale are involved in lindsey's disappearance or not.  If what I am told is true, it is very possible one of them is involved and the other is covering, or they are both involved... I honestly think if dale were involved and kameron knew it, that kameron would have ratted dale off by now.  I think kameron is weak that way.  Dale, hmm, not so sure about him, he might be able to keep his mouth shut.  But they were all running down to the copshop, and I believe if anyone was going to tell anything, they would have done it by now. Unless they are both involved... however, you would think if they are involved they would have shut up and not keep talking to LE.  so maybe they really are not involved and they are just freaked out and paranoid about something else?  If that is the case, then their blabbing about one another has caused them a whole lot of unnecessary problems.  They made themself look guilty by opening their mouths and trying to convince everyone of this and that when it was obvious what they were saying was not true.  Had kamerson never pointed at dale in the first place and had kona never got on the net and started pointing at people and lying probably no one would have been looking at them in the first place.  



This is NOT just my OPINION... I know this stuff is true or I would not be saying it... so I won't say any more.  might as well just be calling me a liar...

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« Reply #971 on: April 05, 2011, 08:39:58 PM »

next time someone wants to know something, DON'T bother asking me.  I'll keep my info to myself.
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« Reply #972 on: April 05, 2011, 08:46:41 PM »

I will no longer be posting on this board, if you wish to discuss anything with me or you want to know something you'll have to either email me or find me on my board.  

I'm nice enough to come here and share info that no one else has, and then get called a liar about what I KNOW FOR A FACT...

screw this board and the idiots who run it.  

figure these cases out yourself since you seem to know everything.  dumbasses !!!!!!

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« Reply #973 on: April 06, 2011, 06:17:01 AM »

    on that note folks....shall we move on to the next thread? Yes, Indeedy.




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