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ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!
« Reply #680 on: November 23, 2009, 12:23:39 AM »
Which one is closest Magnolia, and which direction should I go.  I want to see it! 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #682 on: November 23, 2009, 12:25:25 AM »
Quote from: Kermit on November 23, 2009, 12:24:07 AM


It looks like it is almost wedged in the side of the cage. Magnolia is that what you saw?
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« Reply #683 on: November 23, 2009, 12:26:40 AM »
Quote from: texasmom on November 23, 2009, 12:17:36 AM
Quote from: Magnolia on November 23, 2009, 12:14:05 AM
Quote from: texasmom on November 23, 2009, 12:08:24 AM

Good night 2NJ!

I had some pics all ready but now I don't think I'm in the right place with the red dot!   

Show us what you got TM

okay, I'm posting two places I think I may see something; but I don't think either one of them is what you're talking about!
 




On the second picture come down about a half a picture lenth,
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« Reply #684 on: November 23, 2009, 12:27:04 AM »
Quote from: billb on November 23, 2009, 12:21:22 AM
Good night good monkeys....ignorance is bliss....

 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #685 on: November 23, 2009, 12:30:40 AM »
I have always seen the legs folded and you can even see where her feet were.
I figured they just threw the sandals in the cage along with Joran's one tennis shoe.
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« Reply #686 on: November 23, 2009, 12:34:18 AM »
Quote from: Magnolia on November 23, 2009, 12:30:40 AM
I have always seen the legs folded and you can even see where her feet were.
I figured they just threw the sandals in the cage along with Joran's one tennis shoe.

I agree. I'll bet her earrings are buried in the sand beneath her.
All we need is a vacuum of the entire area. Any experienced recovery would know to have done this.
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« Reply #687 on: November 23, 2009, 12:34:50 AM »
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Good night good monkeys....ignorance is bliss....

 

You got a problem? say IT....
 
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« Reply #688 on: November 23, 2009, 12:35:51 AM »
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Quote from: billb on November 23, 2009, 12:21:22 AM
Good night good monkeys....ignorance is bliss....

 


That has always been my motto in life.
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« Reply #689 on: November 23, 2009, 12:37:25 AM »
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« Reply #690 on: November 23, 2009, 12:38:55 AM »
Okay I'm taking off now. Hopefully Jen is well enough to take a look and see what she thinks about this perhaps being the flip flop tomorrow.

Take care everyone.
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« Reply #691 on: November 23, 2009, 12:39:45 AM »
Quote from: Magnolia on November 23, 2009, 12:35:51 AM
Quote from: texasmom on November 23, 2009, 12:27:04 AM
Quote from: billb on November 23, 2009, 12:21:22 AM
Good night good monkeys....ignorance is bliss....

 


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You wear it well.....
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« Reply #692 on: November 23, 2009, 12:40:17 AM »
Quote from: Kermit on November 23, 2009, 12:34:18 AM
Quote from: Magnolia on November 23, 2009, 12:30:40 AM
I have always seen the legs folded and you can even see where her feet were.
I figured they just threw the sandals in the cage along with Joran's one tennis shoe.

I agree. I'll bet her earrings are buried in the sand beneath her.
All we need is a vacuum of the entire area. Any experienced recovery would know to have done this.





It should have been done.  Even Kyle talked about the vacuum, but I don't think Aruba would allow
it and the pirates didn't want to do it either.
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« Reply #693 on: November 23, 2009, 12:42:26 AM »
Quote from: billb on November 23, 2009, 12:39:45 AM
Quote from: Magnolia on November 23, 2009, 12:35:51 AM
Quote from: texasmom on November 23, 2009, 12:27:04 AM
Quote from: billb on November 23, 2009, 12:21:22 AM
Good night good monkeys....ignorance is bliss....

 


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You wear it well.....

Thank you Billb.  It has always served me well.
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« Reply #694 on: November 23, 2009, 12:48:03 AM »
Quote from: Kermit on November 23, 2009, 12:38:55 AM
Okay I'm taking off now. Hopefully Jen is well enough to take a look and see what she thinks about this perhaps being the flip flop tomorrow.

Take care everyone.

Seems to be a problem between the  Natalee Freebirds.....Jen/Janet/Kermit....wth???
Come out and say what you want to say...don't beat around the bush....
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« Reply #695 on: November 23, 2009, 12:48:20 AM »
Quote from: billb on November 23, 2009, 12:02:18 AM
Hey...show me where Dave says the peter/patrick bs brings closure to him....

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When you consider Dave Holloway's ongoing relationship with John Silvetti in regards to the continuing of the search for his daughter's remains in Aruban waters ... it is obvious that Dave Holloway is not a believer in Kyle Kingman's own words regarding the trap/cage and its contents.

I have not read what Dave Holloway's take is in regards to Joran van der Sloot's so-called confession.  I know that initially he believed that his daughter's remains were in a trap/cage that Dompig claimed was stolen from the Fisherman's hut.  Joran words on the Range Rover recordings which are affirmed by Peter Devries implies burial at sea was not in a trap/cage.

Janet

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1.  February, 2008 - Kyle Kingman is solicitating funds toward the continuation of the search and ... those funds are designated to TES.

2.  April, 2008 - John Silvetti reveals that Dave Holloway put him touch with the head of the tourist Association in regards to a "sizable" donation to assist in the costs associated with continuing the search.

3.  July, 2008 - Steve Holloway ... Dave's brother ... reveals in his comment on SM Front Page that Dave intends to continue the search.

4.  June, 2009 - Debbie (BFN) claims that Dave is working with Tim Miller, John Silvetti and Louis Schaefer in the raising of funds to continue the search in Aruban waters.
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« Reply #696 on: November 23, 2009, 12:54:59 AM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on November 23, 2009, 12:48:20 AM
Quote from: billb on November 23, 2009, 12:02:18 AM
Hey...show me where Dave says the peter/patrick bs brings closure to him....

billb

When you consider Dave Holloway's ongoing relationship with John Silvetti in regards to the continuing of the search for his daughter's remains in Aruban waters ... it is obvious that Dave Holloway is not a believer in Kyle Kingman's own words regarding the trap/cage and its contents.

I have not read what Dave Holloway's take is in regards to Joran van der Sloot's so-called confession.  I know that initially he believed that his daughter's remains were in a trap/cage that Dompig claimed was stolen from the Fisherman's hut.  Joran words on the Range Rover recordings which are affirmed by Peter Devries implies burial at sea was not in a trap/cage.

Janet

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1.  February, 2008 - Kyle Kingman is solicitating funds toward the continuation of the search and ... those funds are designated to TES.

2.  April, 2008 - John Silvetti reveals that Dave Holloway put him touch with the head of the tourist Association in regards to a "sizable" donation to assist in the costs associated with continuing the search.

3.  July, 2008 - Steve Holloway ... Dave's brother ... reveals in his comment on SM Front Page that Dave intends to continue the search.

4.  June, 2009 - Debbie (BFN) claims that Dave is working with Tim Miller, John Silvetti and Louis Schaefer in the raising of funds to continue the search in Aruban waters.
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THE RANGE ROVER RECORDINGS - THE FULL CONFESSION?

THE COMPLETE STORY
How a sensational hidden camera operation
solved the Natalee Holloway case

PETER DEVRIES:  Together they carried the girl from the beach into Daury’s boat. Daury tells Joran to walk home. He, the friend, takes off onto the ocean where he throws Natalee’s body out of the boat into the sea. After that he visits Joran at his home, he has an apartment in the garden of his parent’s house, to talk about what happened.

http://www.peterrdevries.com/complete-story.htm
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« Reply #697 on: November 23, 2009, 12:57:26 AM »
Quote from: texasmom on November 23, 2009, 12:21:33 AM
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/SMJ5Bm73t64&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/SMJ5Bm73t64&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0</a>

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I don't know if Dave's opinion has changed, I have no knowledge that is has.  Shortly after the taped confession was aired he said:

"I believe the confession, without any doubt."
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #698 on: November 23, 2009, 01:00:38 AM »
Quote from: texasmom on November 23, 2009, 12:57:26 AM
Quote from: texasmom on November 23, 2009, 12:21:33 AM
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/SMJ5Bm73t64&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/SMJ5Bm73t64&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0</a>

Video uploaded Feb 8, 2008

I don't know if Dave's opinion has changed, I have no knowledge that is has.  Shortly after the taped confession was aired he said:

"I do believe the confession, without any doubt."

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #699 on: November 23, 2009, 01:02:03 AM »
Quote from: Magnolia on November 23, 2009, 12:30:40 AM
I have always seen the legs folded and you can even see where her feet were.
I figured they just threw the sandals in the cage along with Joran's one tennis shoe.
Now why would "they' do that?
And who were "they"?
 
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