Natalee Case Discussion #826 11/07/09 - 12/09/09

[Magnolia]

We might be onto something.

Someone in Aruba is interested.

Domain Name   setardsl.aw ? (Aruba)
IP Address   66.247.204.# (SLBH/SETAR ARUBA)
ISP   Sprint
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City  :  Oranjestad
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[Tamikosmom]

On the Record w/ Greta - November 19, 2008

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: And do you know -- and in terms of boats that night, do you know if any thorough investigation, one that you would have confidence in? Has that been done?

JOSSY MANSUR: No, it hasn't been done because that night, somebody in the police force told the people handling the radar that controls the boats in the vicinity on the coast of Aruba -- told them to put it off.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,454527,00.html


Nancy Grace - April 24, 2006

NANCY GRACE, HOST: Well, Dave Holloway, aren`t there logs and isn`t there surveillance in place in Aruba of all the ships that go out of the tiny island, even at night?
 
DAVE HOLLOWAY, FATHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: Well, there is but on one of those nights, I think it was June the 7th or June the 8th, the electricity went out on the island for about two hours so you wonder if that would have been the prime opportunity to do it. Small boats, I don`t think, can be picked up as well as the big ones.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/24/ng.01.html


CBS News - 48 Hours Mystery - March 25, 2006

But Dr. Ruben Cruz, the head of the island’s search and rescue team showed 48 Hours that an unweighted body thrown overboard near the shore would wash up on the beach.

Cruz says he and his team have tossed a dummy overboard many times, but that in every case, it drifted back to shore. The only way that wouldn’t happen is if a boat sailed more than two miles offshore — a trip that would have turned up on police radar and been captured on tape.

Police have accounted for every boat in the water the night Natalee vanished.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/22/48hours/main1430644_page4.shtml

[klaasend]

Nice catch Magnolia!

[texasmom]

Way to go Magnolia!   

[2NJSons_Mom]

Thanks for the comparison photos, Klaas & Magnolia for the heads up and finding someone is interested (on that island) in the website you posted on that company.  Wonder if he/she/they were aware or were made aware....just thinking, here.

I was prescribed an antibiotic and so far am feeling better for those who are wondering.  Hope tomorrow is even better. 

[klaasend]

O/T

Glad you are feeling better 2NJ

I put a christmas mug in cafepress:

http://www.cafepress.com/scaredmonkeys.419017322

[Magnolia]

Thanks for the comparison photos, Klaas & Magnolia for the heads up and finding someone is interested (on that island) in the website you posted on that company.  Wonder if he/she/they were aware or were made aware....just thinking, here.

I was prescribed an antibiotic and so far am feeling better for those who are wondering.  Hope tomorrow is even better. 

I was wondering.
Glad you are better.

[Mere]

Thanks for the comparison photos, Klaas & Magnolia for the heads up and finding someone is interested (on that island) in the website you posted on that company.  Wonder if he/she/they were aware or were made aware....just thinking, here.

I was prescribed an antibiotic and so far am feeling better for those who are wondering.  Hope tomorrow is even better. 

I am glad that you got to see someone....it can make you miserable.  Better days ahead...

[texasmom]

Thanks for the comparison photos, Klaas & Magnolia for the heads up and finding someone is interested (on that island) in the website you posted on that company.  Wonder if he/she/they were aware or were made aware....just thinking, here.

I was prescribed an antibiotic and so far am feeling better for those who are wondering.  Hope tomorrow is even better. 

I'm glad you're feeling better 2NJ!  Hope you're well soon!   

[Edward]

Astilleros Neumáticos Duarry S.A. is a Spanish company, founded by Juan Duarry Serra in 1968.
In 1950 the company manufactured latex products but in 1956 the production of boat in cotton fabric was started.
In 1958 the boats production range was expanded and the first boats to be equipped with outboard engine were manufactured. This year was the start of the production of inflatable liferafts for commercial use.Duarry was the pioneer in the manufacturing of Rigid Inflatable boats, with the first sort of boat manufactured in 1960.
 From 1966 to 1982 the range was expanded to the production of special products for military and civil use, such as flexible tanks, buoys, and inflatable product for the industry.
In February 1987 a fire destroyed completely the 9 floor building in the city centre of Barcelona. Since this year Duarry started a new era in Cornellà de Llobregat with the production of liferafts, commercial and leisure boats. Nowadays Duarry has a wide range of boats from 2 m. to 13,50 m. length made of Neoprene - Hypalon tubes and GRP hulls. The liferafts for both commercial and leisure markets are approved according to SOLAS and ISO 9650 with over 120 service stations around the world.
The Duarry's policy is to supply high quality products to our customers and a high standard in after sales service, being recognized by the most prestigious institutions around the world.

Astilleros Neumáticos Duarry S.A. is an ISO 9001-2000 certified company by Bureau Veritas.

[texasmom]

Thanks Edward!   

[Edward]

Looks like the idiot never called his friend Daury.. What he did do is call a friend who brought a Daury to help Joran dispose of..

[Edward]

y/w
 
http://www.duarry.com/english/quienessomos2.htm

[texasmom]

Looks like the idiot never called his friend Daury.. What he did do is call a friend who brought a Daury to help Joran dispose of..

I wonder if the "Avon" was a Duarry? 

http://nholloway.blogspot.com/2008_01_01_archive.html

Special Notice:
By John Silvetti-
The original search area surveyed by the R/V Persistence was selected based on numerous pieces of information provided by Dave Holloway, Tim Miller, investigations, interrogations, depositions and other information from local authorities. After compiling and reviewing the information, the search area was selected by Louis Schaefer and John Silvetti. Upon completion of the sonar runs in this area, 65 ROV dives were performed by Offshore Innovative Solutions (OIS) on targets identified by sonar. Divers from the Aruban Police Diving Division and Underwater Expeditions made several dives and retrieved samples which were delivered for analysis. Several targets in this first survey grid yet remain to be investigated by ROV which will occur in approximately one week when ROV dive operations recommence.

Selection of the next area, the “Extended Search Area”, was based on one single piece of information, a reported confession by one of the three suspects. This confession, as relayed to the survey team, has some credence. It involves the same type of disposal scenario, but better defines the search area. This information in combination with the weather patterns observed by the survey team since our arrival on December 15th left only one boundary to define. The team needed to observe the island from offshore on a small vessel at night to determine this boundary. Sounds easy….huh?

After 2 unsuccessful attempts using a local vessel due to fuel and mechanical problems, the decision was made to utilize the R/V Persistence’s Rescue Boat, the “Avon”. The Avon is a 16’ center console inflatable vessel powered by a 70 hp Tohatsu engine. Prior to dark, the Avon was launched from the Persistence and piloted to the Holiday Inn Pier by Captain Jim Graves. Later that evening, John Silvetti boarded the vessel with Capt. Graves, transited to the start point, and commenced an offshore run documenting the time and vessel position with a WAAS enabled hand-held GPS system. At one mile out, radio communications were confirmed with the Persistence. At six miles out, radio communications were again confirmed along with spot light identification as the Avon crossed astern of the Persistence. It was somewhere shortly after this point that Murphy boarded the Avon!

The weather was very similar to the recorded weather of late May, 2005. The seas were running 4-6’ with swells of 6-8’. It was rough for an Avon! Upon reaching the final destination point while documenting the final position, the engine sputtered and stalled. It never started again! Approximately 30 minutes of effort to restart the engine was fruitless. I believe that is when we noticed that we were taking on water! HELLO HOUSTON, WE HAVE A PROBLEM!

As we watched Aruba disappear over the horizon, contemplating our broken engine, a vessel taking on water and the fact that we are about to enact the emergency contingencies of our procedures, Capt. Graves stated, “ I am sure glad that it is so dark!” I took the bait. Why? Because I believe we would be scared to death if we could see how big these waves are! Persistence…Persistence….this is Avon on channel 16 ..over! Silence. Persistence…Persistence….this is Avon on channel 16 ..over! Five minutes of silence. Back up frequency. Persistence…Persistence….this is Avon on channel 09 ..over! Five minutes of silence. VHF comms failure. Ya gotta love Murphy.

Thanks to the support of Coast Guard Curacao, Aruban Port Authority and some unbelievable cell phone coverage, the Persistence plucked us out of the water approximately 16 miles offshore Aruba. We had acquired a tremendous amount of information to determine the last boundary and learned a few lessons:

1) Never use your lower back to absorb the shock of pounding seas when you are fat and out of shape.
2) Never get fat and out of shape.
3) No matter how complete and thorough your safety procedures are, never count Murphy out!

-John Silvetti

POSTED BY KYLE KINGMAN AT 6:55 AM 27 COMMENTS 

[Edward]

Thank You
 Magnolia

[Mere]

Good night everyone....see you tomorrow....

[Edward]

I bet this exists on the Tattoo party Boat..
http://www.duarry.com/english/sr5mfb.htm
This is where Steve Croes comes in..

[texasmom]

Good night everyone....see you tomorrow....

Good night Mere!   

[billb's daughter]

Good info on the duarry...could it be that simple?
Perhaps it is.....urine is a master at word play....

[texasmom]

 

I had no idea something like this existed, some designs can be pulled by a boat.  Maybe not in Aruba, but who knows?  I would think it might draw more attention, but if disposal wasn't the first night this would keep evidence out of and off of the boat.

Floating stretcher Duarry



Made with AISI 316 stainless steel frame with permietrical buoyancy fender of Neoprene-Hypalon.
For the models made to be towed by a water craft the stretcher is equipped with a plywood under the frame to give a good stability and stainless steel hook is provided for easy removing and carry the stretchers by two persons.

http://www.nauticexpo.com/prod/duarry/floating-stretcher-21085-205275.html