Vera Ramirez, 86 yr. old missing on trip from West LA to South Central LA

[IBE]

 Vera Ramirez is 86 yrs old. The grandmother of the daughter of a friend of mine. She took her daughter to work in South LA and hasn't been seen since. Reported to  Police but nothing heard. Pray please. I understand this is a lady in all true senses of the word.

Thanks,  IBE

[MuffyBee]

This is terribly alarming, IBE.  I'll add Vera and her family to my prayers.  Please let us know if there is any news or updates.   

[higherhopes]

I agree IBE, please post when you get any info and please give your friend my sympathy.....I will keep her in my prayers..

[dsntslp]

Are there elderly/silver alerts there like here in FL?

[klaasend]

Vera Ramirez is 86 yrs old. The grandmother of the daughter of a friend of mine. She took her daughter to work in South LA and hasn't been seen since. Reported to  Police but nothing heard. Pray please. I understand this is a lady in all true senses of the word.

Thanks,  IBE

Please keep us updated IBE!  When did she go missing?  How long ago?

[dsntslp]

Many prayers for her, her family and for you too.

What I am going to say next will sound premature but I feel I should say it.  Please tell the family not to touch anything of hers for right now.  Let LE do it.  You do not need to tell the family this but if this should become a case that has no quick resolution they will want her DNA for NAMUS and other data bases.  If her toothbrush or hairbrush is in a bathroom used by others you may want to have them put each object in a separate envelope.  DO NOT lick the envelope.  Handle each object with gloves if possible or if you have to with a tissue and grasp by the end of the object not where the DNA will be.  Do not wash her laundry or bedding yet either. Do not clean her room.   I am so sorry to say things like this so early on but it is important.  Gosh, I feel bad just saying these things... 

Big hugs,
I will check back tomorrow.
Dsn

[dsntslp]

I should add that she will more than likely be found soon.  I believe in prayer.  I am praying.  Keep the faith IBE.

[Elaine]

I am sending my prayers that Vera will be found soon, and home safe.

[dsntslp]

IBE,
Does she have any history of memory problems?
Perhaps she is just lost in transit?

[Artcolley]

HI IBE

I hope Vera is located soon.

I'll be keeping her in my prayers

[IBE]

Memory problems.. no. Very neat, refined lady as far as I am told well dressed, wears jewelry. When I heard that, I thought of a car jacking or robbery.

Whomever made the report to the LAPD went to the wrong station first, but that shouldn't have made a difference but it did. It was low profile. (Have to be overly dramatic at times to get attention, IMO)

God works at mysterious ways... somehow paths crossed with a DA today, by "accident" at the daughters work, I think, and the DA called the officer and got him out of bed.. it has more profile now, but there are so many missing persons in LA each day, some not even reported.

It has been over 24 hours. This worries me. I will pass the prayers from Scared Monkeys to my friend. She has listened to me about Natalee and Donna Joy for a few years.

Am having trouble posting. Be back soon. Thanks all. Am hanging out by the phone.

[dsntslp]

IBE,
Being the pro-active fix it person that I am I always feel the need to "do" something.

If it were me I would ask LE if the wrecker services are dispatched through LE and if there is any possibility her car could have been towed without LE knowing it.  Would she have gotten out of the car for any reason when she dropped your friend at work?  What if she parked in a "No Parking" zone.  Her car may have been towed and she came out and got disoriented.  If she had an accident one would think LE would know about it and the dispatch logs would show an accident an wrecker dispatch.

Being an "I have to do something" person I would start with hospitals, then wreckers (especially ones that are not on the LE tour) and mental health hospitals.  Keep in mind that when someone is brought in for mental health reasons they are in effect protected like children and it is hard to get information.  It's nothing personal, the person at the other end is just doing their job.

Gosh,  I hope I have not overloaded you (I am sure that I have).

I'll go back to praying now.

Peace and prayers,
Hugs,
Dsn

[dsntslp]

24 hours...
Oh, please tell them not to touch anything of hers.
This is so sad to say but an ID is so much quicker with a DNA sample of her own.

Gosh, praying harder now.

DSN

[dsntslp]

Not particularly to IBE but to the rest of the monkeys:

Does California not have Silver alerts?

Here they put them up on on the boards on the highways just like Amber alerts.

If California does not, then why not.

Something to work on to change?

[IBE]

Klaas,

Hi! Yesterday afternoon. Daylight. The daughter works to 11pm so am guessing it was about 2pm (3pm to 11pm)  I have been all around SLA in past years, even substituted their in the 70's. I have friends living there. Bad things can happen in daylight no matter where you live. Not too far away we had a murder at noon of a man who was sleeping in his truck in a park during his lunch hour.

Gang members get credit for killing as part of their intiation.

Will try to find my friends emails and put the word out to them and also to the Veterans in the area. Computer problems are icky.

Hope this turns out OK. My friend thanks you for your prayers.

[IBE]

Not particularly to IBE but to the rest of the monkeys:

Does California not have Silver alerts?

Here they put them up on on the boards on the highways just like Amber alerts.

If California does not, then why not.

Something to work on to change?

What are they and how do they work?

[IBE]

Orange County is very fast at putting out alerts of missing persons, but alot depends IMO on the Sheriff and the OCSD spokesman, Jim Amormino.

IMO LAPD is dedicated, but overworked and understaffed.

[dsntslp]

They work the same as an Amber Alert.

Amber Alerts are displayed on the signs on the highways.  The ones you see that usually have traffic information.  The kind that light up.  When it is an elderly person it is a silver alert.

It displays the make, model, color of car they were last seen in etc...

[dsntslp]

I think they also go out over the net the same as an Amber Alert but I am not positive about that.  The silver alerts I have received on the net have been through private organizations.

[IBE]

Love you kitty "with attitude".

As Nut4x4 posted, it so hard with missing adults. I like the idea! Again, it's like the "bird with power" gets followup. I beginning to be a firm believer it how the information gets out there.Darn, I keep typing and the curson jumps