Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09 - 11/20/09

[Ono]

Fanny,I hear you.   

Me too.   

[no rose colored glasses]

Good Morning and Welcome Persia, very good post.  Okay, I've bee thinking about this Disney Bag and the bottle and syringe and the contents of the bottle. Is it proven that the Disney Bag is Caseys? Something doesn't seem right here, if someone has read the bag is definitely Casey's please direct me to the docs that show that. I'm even going to go out on a limb here, my thoughts are this bag could have been planted, just a thought, it just seems all to perfect and neat. 

nrcg...I am not following your thinking on this, sorry. Who do you think might have planted it? And for what purpose? (call me slow this morning)

I don't trust any of them, as of now there is no connection that the Disney bag was Casey's. It just seems to me that one wouldn't leave the items behind that you killed a person with. But you might plant evidence to make it look like someone else did it, Cindy herself said that Jesse had access to Casey's car, and I'm willling to bet when Casey went to take a shower at Jesse's that perhaps she took something of his, something with testoserone in it. To me this is just not proof that this bag has to do with Caylee's death, now if there is more evidence that comes out to prove it, I will change my mind. And also many things out of their mouths about Jesse and his temper, was this being set up for a roid rage type of thing? And I want to be clear, I don't under any circumstances believe Jesse, or any of the other friends had anything to do with this. Though I don't trust Annie at all.

[SunnyinTX]

I don't trust any of them, as of now there is no connection that the Disney bag was Casey's. It just seems to me that one wouldn't leave the items behind that you killed a person with. But you might plant evidence to make it look like someone else did it, Cindy herself said that Jesse had access to Casey's car, and I'm willling to bet when Casey went to take a shower at Jesse's that perhaps she took something of his, something with testoserone in it. To me this is just not proof that this bag has to do with Caylee's death, now if there is more evidence that comes out to prove it, I will change my mind. And also many things out of their mouths about Jesse and his temper, was this being set up for a roid rage type of thing? And I want to be clear, I don't under any circumstances believe Jesse, or any of the other friends had anything to do with this. Though I don't trust Annie at all.

OK,  am with you now. Thanks for the explanation.

[cookie]

I don't trust any of them, as of now there is no connection that the Disney bag was Casey's. It just seems to me that one wouldn't leave the items behind that you killed a person with. But you might plant evidence to make it look like someone else did it, Cindy herself said that Jesse had access to Casey's car, and I'm willling to bet when Casey went to take a shower at Jesse's that perhaps she took something of his, something with testoserone in it. To me this is just not proof that this bag has to do with Caylee's death, now if there is more evidence that comes out to prove it, I will change my mind. And also many things out of their mouths about Jesse and his temper, was this being set up for a roid rage type of thing? And I want to be clear, I don't under any circumstances believe Jesse, or any of the other friends had anything to do with this. Though I don't trust Annie at all.

OK,  am with you now. Thanks for the explanation.

you could be on to something there Rosie....

[no rose colored glasses]

I don't trust any of them, as of now there is no connection that the Disney bag was Casey's. It just seems to me that one wouldn't leave the items behind that you killed a person with. But you might plant evidence to make it look like someone else did it, Cindy herself said that Jesse had access to Casey's car, and I'm willling to bet when Casey went to take a shower at Jesse's that perhaps she took something of his, something with testoserone in it. To me this is just not proof that this bag has to do with Caylee's death, now if there is more evidence that comes out to prove it, I will change my mind. And also many things out of their mouths about Jesse and his temper, was this being set up for a roid rage type of thing? And I want to be clear, I don't under any circumstances believe Jesse, or any of the other friends had anything to do with this. Though I don't trust Annie at all.

OK,  am with you now. Thanks for the explanation.

I feel I better drop this, but I just feel there is more to the bag and it's contents.

[Kat_Gram]

After reading everything and Blink's site I believe the bag was planted. The gatorade bottle looked to new to have been out in the elements that long, someone is being framed imo.

Who is being framed ?

My first thought is Jesse, don't know. But that bag just seems to perfect to be there, something is off to me.

The chloroform connection is too perfect. They didn't tie anything in that Disney bag to anyone YET.

[espresso]

I don't trust any of them, as of now there is no connection that the Disney bag was Casey's. It just seems to me that one wouldn't leave the items behind that you killed a person with. But you might plant evidence to make it look like someone else did it, Cindy herself said that Jesse had access to Casey's car, and I'm willling to bet when Casey went to take a shower at Jesse's that perhaps she took something of his, something with testoserone in it. To me this is just not proof that this bag has to do with Caylee's death, now if there is more evidence that comes out to prove it, I will change my mind. And also many things out of their mouths about Jesse and his temper, was this being set up for a roid rage type of thing? And I want to be clear, I don't under any circumstances believe Jesse, or any of the other friends had anything to do with this. Though I don't trust Annie at all.

OK,  am with you now. Thanks for the explanation.

I feel I better drop this, but I just feel there is more to the bag and it's contents.

oooh I don't think you should. I find it really interesting-kind of puts a whole different spin on things. Early on ( it's been so long) but I vaguely recall something about the lack of a diaper bag in the car and that she had multiple diaper bags that were more of the backpack type. Maybe the winnie the pooh diaper bag was originally left behind somewhere.

[tupelohoney]

There was a prescription for Caylee for Gentamicin, which is an injectable antibiotic. So that places syringes in the Anthony home.

[Fanny Mae]

After reading everything and Blink's site I believe the bag was planted. The gatorade bottle looked to new to have been out in the elements that long, someone is being framed imo.

Who is being framed ?

My first thought is Jesse, don't know. But that bag just seems to perfect to be there, something is off to me.

The chloroform connection is too perfect. They didn't tie anything in that Disney bag to anyone YET.

I'm praying for fingerprints, especially on the inside plastic covering for the syringe, or on the syringe itself. If not, I'll take some DNA on the bag or the syringe from KC. 

[strayze]

Fanny, that is what I was wondering, but since it was also in the sports drink bottle then maybe she injected it into there and (hopefully) not Caylee.  The only reason I can figure using a syringe would be if the chloroform was in one of those bottles that you have to extract with a needle.  Like you see at the dr.'s office. If not, then why put it in the sports drink?

Evening, all!  Joining the ranks of the incredibly angered tonight!  Jennifer34, your questions made me think of something else.  What if Casey didn't use the syringe to inject the Chloroform into Caylee, but used it as you suggested, to syphon the chloroform out of some type of bottle (the Gatorade bottle or another one)?  Perhaps she used the syringe to inject the chloroform into the bottle of Cool Blue Gatorade to mix it and then gave Caylee some of it to drink or used the syringe to squirt it into her mouth (as mothers do, giving objectionable medicine to babies and toddlers).  I wonder if there were any Disposable Syringe Kits in Casey's purchase receipts or from store records.

I don't have a gatorade bottle to test, but my question is:  Will the Gatorade bottle dissolve in chloroform?  I do know that my plastic glasses dissolve in chloroform, both rims and lenses. 

[no rose colored glasses]

I don't trust any of them, as of now there is no connection that the Disney bag was Casey's. It just seems to me that one wouldn't leave the items behind that you killed a person with. But you might plant evidence to make it look like someone else did it, Cindy herself said that Jesse had access to Casey's car, and I'm willling to bet when Casey went to take a shower at Jesse's that perhaps she took something of his, something with testoserone in it. To me this is just not proof that this bag has to do with Caylee's death, now if there is more evidence that comes out to prove it, I will change my mind. And also many things out of their mouths about Jesse and his temper, was this being set up for a roid rage type of thing? And I want to be clear, I don't under any circumstances believe Jesse, or any of the other friends had anything to do with this. Though I don't trust Annie at all.

OK,  am with you now. Thanks for the explanation.

I feel I better drop this, but I just feel there is more to the bag and it's contents.

oooh I don't think you should. I find it really interesting-kind of puts a whole different spin on things. Early on ( it's been so long) but I vaguely recall something about the lack of a diaper bag in the car and that she had multiple diaper bags that were more of the backpack type. Maybe the winnie the pooh diaper bag was originally left behind somewhere.

That could be, I just feel that the Anthonys would do anything and everything to protect their daughter, and I'm just wondering if this is part of their plan, could be nothing and could be a lot. I guess we will have to wait and see how this connects.

[Fanny Mae]

Good Morning and Welcome Persia, very good post.  Okay, I've bee thinking about this Disney Bag and the bottle and syringe and the contents of the bottle. Is it proven that the Disney Bag is Caseys? Something doesn't seem right here, if someone has read the bag is definitely Casey's please direct me to the docs that show that. I'm even going to go out on a limb here, my thoughts are this bag could have been planted, just a thought, it just seems all to perfect and neat. 

nrcg...I am not following your thinking on this, sorry. Who do you think might have planted it? And for what purpose? (call me slow this morning)

I don't trust any of them, as of now there is no connection that the Disney bag was Casey's. It just seems to me that one wouldn't leave the items behind that you killed a person with. But you might plant evidence to make it look like someone else did it, Cindy herself said that Jesse had access to Casey's car, and I'm willling to bet when Casey went to take a shower at Jesse's that perhaps she took something of his, something with testoserone in it. To me this is just not proof that this bag has to do with Caylee's death, now if there is more evidence that comes out to prove it, I will change my mind. And also many things out of their mouths about Jesse and his temper, was this being set up for a roid rage type of thing? And I want to be clear, I don't under any circumstances believe Jesse, or any of the other friends had anything to do with this. Though I don't trust Annie at all.

Who are you not trusting, NOROSE? The SA or the Defense? 

[no rose colored glasses]

Fanny, that is what I was wondering, but since it was also in the sports drink bottle then maybe she injected it into there and (hopefully) not Caylee.  The only reason I can figure using a syringe would be if the chloroform was in one of those bottles that you have to extract with a needle.  Like you see at the dr.'s office. If not, then why put it in the sports drink?

Evening, all!  Joining the ranks of the incredibly angered tonight!  Jennifer34, your questions made me think of something else.  What if Casey didn't use the syringe to inject the Chloroform into Caylee, but used it as you suggested, to syphon the chloroform out of some type of bottle (the Gatorade bottle or another one)?  Perhaps she used the syringe to inject the chloroform into the bottle of Cool Blue Gatorade to mix it and then gave Caylee some of it to drink or used the syringe to squirt it into her mouth (as mothers do, giving objectionable medicine to babies and toddlers).  I wonder if there were any Disposable Syringe Kits in Casey's purchase receipts or from store records.

I don't have a gatorade bottle to test, but my question is:  Will the Gatorade bottle dissolve in chloroform?  I do know that my plastic glasses dissolve in chloroform, both rims and lenses. 

That's what I would like to know, but since it wasn't just chloroform in the bottle, would that dilute to the point that the plastic wouldn't dissolve?

[Miki Monkey]

After reading everything and Blink's site I believe the bag was planted. The gatorade bottle looked to new to have been out in the elements that long, someone is being framed imo.

Hmm, how so? The items were picked up when Caylee's little body was found. That would mean that the evidence had to have been placed there by someone who knew where she was buried,  before Roy Kronk or anyone else found the body. Interestingly if you are saying that someone else knew and PLANTED evidence after the car was processed and before her body was found, then that implies others knew KC had killed her daughter and where she was placed. The only people who fit this description are the parents. In this scenario the crime scene would be compromised before anyone knew she was dead. I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion would like to hear more on this theory.

[strayze]

Chloroform...at the scene where the remains were found and on the doll and in the trunk and search on the computer.  Oh..wait...didn't Cindy say that she was the one making the computer search for chlorform.

Uh-o...isn't Cindy a nurse...sure to have syringes lying around somewhere...hmmmm

Careful Cindy...one could look at you with more than a little suspicion.

  In Maryland I buy syringes either singly or as a case at the Giant food chain.  Only requirement is the money to buy them.  I get case-loads as I'm on a daily injectable for a very rare lung disease totally unrelated to smoking. 

[SunnyinTX]

Fanny, that is what I was wondering, but since it was also in the sports drink bottle then maybe she injected it into there and (hopefully) not Caylee.  The only reason I can figure using a syringe would be if the chloroform was in one of those bottles that you have to extract with a needle.  Like you see at the dr.'s office. If not, then why put it in the sports drink?

Evening, all!  Joining the ranks of the incredibly angered tonight!  Jennifer34, your questions made me think of something else.  What if Casey didn't use the syringe to inject the Chloroform into Caylee, but used it as you suggested, to syphon the chloroform out of some type of bottle (the Gatorade bottle or another one)?  Perhaps she used the syringe to inject the chloroform into the bottle of Cool Blue Gatorade to mix it and then gave Caylee some of it to drink or used the syringe to squirt it into her mouth (as mothers do, giving objectionable medicine to babies and toddlers).  I wonder if there were any Disposable Syringe Kits in Casey's purchase receipts or from store records.

I don't have a gatorade bottle to test, but my question is:  Will the Gatorade bottle dissolve in chloroform?  I do know that my plastic glasses dissolve in chloroform, both rims and lenses. 

OK, gotta ask, how did you discover your glasses dissolve in chloroform???

[no rose colored glasses]

I have great faith in the State. I'm just saying that the bag and it's contents with the info that we have seen does not prove to me that this was Casey's and that is how she killed Caylee. Now the State just may have evidence that they are holding back for trial that has Casey's fingerprints on the bottle/syringe, I have no idea what evidence they have that they are holding on to.

[no rose colored glasses]

After reading everything and Blink's site I believe the bag was planted. The gatorade bottle looked to new to have been out in the elements that long, someone is being framed imo.

Hmm, how so? The items were picked up when Caylee's little body was found. That would mean that the evidence had to have been placed there by someone who knew where she was buried,  before Roy Kronk or anyone else found the body. Interestingly if you are saying that someone else knew and PLANTED evidence after the car was processed and before her body was found, then that implies others knew KC had killed her daughter and where she was placed. The only people who fit this description are the parents. In this scenario the crime scene would be compromised before anyone knew she was dead. I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion would like to hear more on this theory.

I am just simply stating that I believe there is more to this bag then what meets the eye. And I would have no trouble leaping to the Anthonys knowing where Caylee was the whole time, I just don't trust any of them. Guess we will have to wait until trial.

[Sassycat]

There was a prescription for Caylee for Gentamicin, which is an injectable antibiotic. So that places syringes in the Anthony home.

Good point.   And you have a great memory!        

[Miki Monkey]

Fanny, that is what I was wondering, but since it was also in the sports drink bottle then maybe she injected it into there and (hopefully) not Caylee.  The only reason I can figure using a syringe would be if the chloroform was in one of those bottles that you have to extract with a needle.  Like you see at the dr.'s office. If not, then why put it in the sports drink?

Evening, all!  Joining the ranks of the incredibly angered tonight!  Jennifer34, your questions made me think of something else.  What if Casey didn't use the syringe to inject the Chloroform into Caylee, but used it as you suggested, to syphon the chloroform out of some type of bottle (the Gatorade bottle or another one)?  Perhaps she used the syringe to inject the chloroform into the bottle of Cool Blue Gatorade to mix it and then gave Caylee some of it to drink or used the syringe to squirt it into her mouth (as mothers do, giving objectionable medicine to babies and toddlers).  I wonder if there were any Disposable Syringe Kits in Casey's purchase receipts or from store records.

I don't have a gatorade bottle to test, but my question is:  Will the Gatorade bottle dissolve in chloroform?  I do know that my plastic glasses dissolve in chloroform, both rims and lenses. 

That's what I would like to know, but since it wasn't just chloroform in the bottle, would that dilute to the point that the plastic wouldn't dissolve?

I would have thought that if the chloroform had been extracted by the syringe after the chemical reaction was complete, (there may have been a teaspoon of chloroform after the reaction) and this was removed by syringe through the lighter top layer, there would only be trace evidence of chloroform in the bottle. Not enough to affect the plastic.