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Author Topic: VA Tech Student Morgan Dana Harrington missing since 10/17/09#1 10/19/09-7/1/10  (Read 665902 times)
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« Reply #180 on: November 04, 2009, 10:58:43 AM »

Thanks Blink, I have a question. Could someone have slipped a drug into Morgan's drink? Granted I have no idea if she had a drink at the concert whether it be soda/alcohol, but just wondered. After reading your last article, what I figured but kind of don't want to say, is I believe she did have a different life that her parents were not aware of. She is 20, no way, no how, would they have known, sometimes the kids that come from a strict, prominent background tend to be wilder and more rebelous. Not saying she is, just something that I have observed through my years. And this guy with the tie dyed shirt, please, if he isn't doing somekind of drugs, I'm hanging my sleuthing hat up  I sure hope her friends are being honest with LE, but if things they know could get them in trouble with their parents, they probably are not.
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« Reply #181 on: November 04, 2009, 12:12:44 PM »

http://www.nbc29.com/global/Category.asp?C=175730

Dr. Dan Harrington and his wife, Gil, will hold a press conference today at 1:00 p.m. EST to address upcoming developments in the search for their daughter, Morgan, The Harringtons will be joined by Ed Smart, the father of Elizabeth Smart, who will also deliver remarks. The press conference can be viewed live on NBC 29’s (WVIR) Web site:
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« Reply #182 on: November 04, 2009, 12:15:49 PM »

http://www.nbc29.com/global/Category.asp?C=175730

Dr. Dan Harrington and his wife, Gil, will hold a press conference today at 1:00 p.m. EST to address upcoming developments in the search for their daughter, Morgan, The Harringtons will be joined by Ed Smart, the father of Elizabeth Smart, who will also deliver remarks. The press conference can be viewed live on NBC 29’s (WVIR) Web site:
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« Reply #183 on: November 04, 2009, 12:35:30 PM »

Thanks KCJackie.   
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« Reply #184 on: November 04, 2009, 01:32:05 PM »

So, the show wasn't sold out. Morgan is outside. Her friends are inside. Why didn't anyone just get her another ticket ? Surely someone had a credit card.
Metallica hadn't started, why didn't friends leave their seats to try to do something like that ?
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So, her Dad thought they were going in the other girls car the last leg of the way and they didn't ? The other friend had the keys to her car ?
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Did Morgan try to get in through alternative means as suggested by her friends?
Like something is stinking with this story.
Her friend has the keys to her car, she is outside with no tickie, an overdrawn checking account and none of them got up off their seat to try to rectify this before Metallica took the stage ? 
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Oh, and she takes the battery out of her cell phone frequently and took it out
in that situation when she is all alone out there in the cold so she could lose contact and not be traced ?
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Who is the guy she was texting who doesn't live there and who is not a suspect ?
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I don't think she did a runner, but I think she was going to do something that she didn't want her parents to know about, like GASP stay out all night with a guy. Some plan fell thru, she was in a state of mind after having an argument with the guy she was texting and either he came to get her and something awful happened or something awful happened because of bad judgement or not paying attention to her surroundings / people because of her state of mind.
 
WHY DIDN"T SHE JUST CALL HER PARENTS ? I would have never called mine for stupidness, but in this case, I would have. My dad would have sped all the way there to get me. I wouldn't have wandered around in spike heeled boots with no jacket wearing a mini skirt in the cold. He would have yelled at me for a minute, but it would have been ok, he was my DAD. lol And he knew what his job was. Fish me out of what I did.

 I'm with you on the phone battery thing. Who does that? Who TOLD her that was a good idea and why did they tell her that?
Another thing that sorta raises a small red flag for me is, back several pages, one of the reports says that before she left to go the bathroom she gives her friend a kiss. I know kids now do that a lot more than when I was young but to me that says, I'll see ya later.
Last red flag is the getting lost and accidently being outside, not buying it at all. She woulda  had to have been really high or messed royally to wander out of the door.
If she did indeed slip/fall and have a cut on her chin possibly she went to an arena person for help, but seems like that would be on video. possible some creep saw an opportunity to "help" her with his very own first aid kit, which was in his vehicle in the parking lot~then she's gone
lots of questions not a lot of answers
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« Reply #185 on: November 04, 2009, 01:33:54 PM »

   I am so glad Blink gives us info.........
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« Reply #186 on: November 04, 2009, 01:40:52 PM »

I just don't understand why she took off walking, why didn't she text her friends to at least get her keys back so she could sit in her car?  I'm so confused.
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« Reply #187 on: November 04, 2009, 01:53:56 PM »

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Still missing: Ed Smart joins Harrington parents; new details emerge
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published 1:38pm Wednesday Nov 4, 2009
As the parents of missing Morgan Harrington prepare to join the father of once-abducted but miraculously recovered Elizabeth Smart in a high profile afternoon press conference on November 4, new information suggests the injured 20-year-old Virginia Tech student’s efforts to regain entry to the John Paul Jones Arena after she somehow ended up outside during an October 17 Metallica concert were more intense than previously reported.

“She did make a few attempts to get back into the arena at different entrances,” says Virginia State Police spokesperson Corrinne Geller in an email, declining to elaborate on which entrances or exactly how many times she tried. Previously, police had confirmed only one attempt before Morgan spoke to a friend inside and reportedly told them she’d find her own way home.

In addition to that 8:48pm call, Geller says, police have thoroughly reviewed the phone’s history, including any texts. While Geller refused to elaborate on the number and source of texts sent or received, Morgan’s father, Dan Harrington, told national crime show anchor Nancy Grace that his daughter texted that night with a  “young man” but that he was not in the Charlottesville area and was not considered a suspect. Morgan’s purse and battery-less phone were found Sunday morning, October 18, in the RV parking lot adjacent to the UVA track, where Morgan was seen, according to a police timeline, between 9:10 and 9:20pm the previous night. The phone’s battery, says Geller, has not been recovered.
One of the perplexing questions in the case– and one that police may have an answer to, even if they’re not sharing– is how Morgan ended up outside, alone.

Security at the 16,000-seat Arena built in 2006 is outsourced to RMC Events, a Richmond-based firm with a Charlottesville office. RMC President Dan Schmitt declined comment, referring questions about security to Arena management, who also declined comment. In the days immediately following Morgan’s disappearance, however, the Arena’s General Manager Larry Wilson defended John Paul Jones’ policy of prohibiting reentry during events as “standard operating procedure of every major venue I know of in the country.”

Security personnel working the doors, Wilson explained, are trained to inform anyone leaving the arena that they won’t be allowed back in, even with a ticket stub.

According to Morgan’s father, dean of academic affairs for Roanoke’s Carilion Clinic, Morgan left her friends to use the bathroom before Metallica took the stage. Early speculation focused on whether Morgan got lost on her way to find one of the 18 women’s restrooms in the Arena. Witnesses have reported seeing her at various points both inside and outside the Arena after she separated from her friends, and police confirmed nearly two weeks after her disappearance that she had suffered a cut to her face sometime before she ended up outside.

“It was a minor injury,” said Geller, who explained that police chose initially not to release the detail because the injury was “consistent with what someone would suffer from slipping and falling, not with any kind of assault.”

Geller says police have reviewed hours of surveillance footage both from the Arena and from area businesses but have found no images of Morgan.
According to the owner of the closest convenience store to John Paul Jones Arena, the 7-11 on Ivy Road, it was several days before investigators reviewed her store’s tapes.

“I believe it was Wednesday, October 21,” says 7-11 franchisee Sabiha Raja.  An employee of BB&T bank declined comment on investigators reviewing surveillance at the bank, and the manager of the Cavalier Inn Best Western on Emmet Street did not return the Hook’s call by posting time.

Morgan’s friends who also attended the concert— her Blacksburg roommate Amy Melvin and JMU student Sarah Snead— have not responded to the Hook’s repeated requests for comment and appear to be maintaining complete media silence. But as chatroom criticism of the friends’ decision to head back to Harrisonburg the night of the concert without Morgan has mounted, Morgan’s parents, Dan and Gil, have publicly defended them.

“They’re not to blame,” said Dan Harrington, soon after Morgan’s disappearance. “Everyone wants to make them out to be the bad guy, but they’re not the bad guy.”

The grieving parents have invited a tsunami of media coverage from local and national outlets, hoping that by keeping  the case in the headlines, their daughter will  be found.

According to former FBI profiler Mark Safarik, now a consultant in Northern Virginia, every day that passes is bad news.

“Time is the enemy,” he says, “evidence degrades.” And police currently don’t seem to have much to work with.

“They have a crime area, but not a scene,” he notes. “When you don’t have a scene, you don’t know where she disappeared, or how, and you’re left trying to figure out what you do have.”

The lead investigator, State Police Lt. Joe Rader, urges tipsters— who may remain anonymous— to call the tip line at 434-352-3467 or email information to bci-appomattox@vsp.virginia.gov.
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« Reply #188 on: November 04, 2009, 01:55:12 PM »

I just don't understand why she took off walking, why didn't she text her friends to at least get her keys back so she could sit in her car?  I'm so confused.

I'm confused also, did the friends drive in her car home? If she had her car there, the that means they drove separately?
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« Reply #189 on: November 04, 2009, 01:59:56 PM »

I just don't understand why she took off walking, why didn't she text her friends to at least get her keys back so she could sit in her car?  I'm so confused.
That just makes zero sense, most people would have done that, period.
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« Reply #190 on: November 04, 2009, 02:05:12 PM »

 Thanks Trimm, where do the people that smoke go? If you can't go back inside, where do you smoke, I can't imagine a smoker is going to go the whole time without a smoke. This going outside makes no sense, unless, like some people think she was lured. Could she have been escorted out of the arena because of some behavior she may have displayed, and security kicked her out? Just a thought.
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« Reply #191 on: November 04, 2009, 02:06:21 PM »

I just don't understand why she took off walking, why didn't she text her friends to at least get her keys back so she could sit in her car?  I'm so confused.

I'm confused also, did the friends drive in her car home? If she had her car there, the that means they drove separately?
It was her car in the parking lot, and one of her friends had the keys. So they drove Morgan's car.
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« Reply #192 on: November 04, 2009, 02:11:07 PM »

Thanks Trimm, where do the people that smoke go? If you can't go back inside, where do you smoke, I can't imagine a smoker is going to go the whole time without a smoke. This going outside makes no sense, unless, like some people think she was lured. Could she have been escorted out of the arena because of some behavior she may have displayed, and security kicked her out? Just a thought.

I remember reading somewhere that there is access to designated smoking areas outside of the venue - that would allow you back in.   Who knows if it is marked very well or 1/2 way around the building.  I have found a pic of her smoking a cigarette (not from that night) so I do believe that's why she was outside, JMO.
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« Reply #193 on: November 04, 2009, 02:16:56 PM »

Thanks Trimm, where do the people that smoke go? If you can't go back inside, where do you smoke, I can't imagine a smoker is going to go the whole time without a smoke. This going outside makes no sense, unless, like some people think she was lured. Could she have been escorted out of the arena because of some behavior she may have displayed, and security kicked her out? Just a thought.
NO ROSE, I know when I go to the Stars games or any event at the American Airlines Center, they let scan your ticket and there are certain areas you can walk outside and smoke. Now at the new Cowboys Stadium, you leave you don't get back in and you can't smoke anywhere inside there. At the Reliant Stadium in Houston, they have like an outdoor area that you don't have to leave the stadium in order to smoke. So I guess it is different according to to the venue and/or city regulations.

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« Reply #194 on: November 04, 2009, 02:18:14 PM »

Thanks Trimm, where do the people that smoke go? If you can't go back inside, where do you smoke, I can't imagine a smoker is going to go the whole time without a smoke. This going outside makes no sense, unless, like some people think she was lured. Could she have been escorted out of the arena because of some behavior she may have displayed, and security kicked her out? Just a thought.

I remember reading somewhere that there is access to designated smoking areas outside of the venue - that would allow you back in.   Who knows if it is marked very well or 1/2 way around the building.  I have found a pic of her smoking a cigarette (not from that night) so I do believe that's why she was outside, JMO.
Thanks, I figured there would have to be or there would be some awfully angry concert goers.
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« Reply #195 on: November 04, 2009, 02:18:56 PM »

Thanks Trimm, where do the people that smoke go? If you can't go back inside, where do you smoke, I can't imagine a smoker is going to go the whole time without a smoke. This going outside makes no sense, unless, like some people think she was lured. Could she have been escorted out of the arena because of some behavior she may have displayed, and security kicked her out? Just a thought.
NO ROSE, I know when I go to the Stars games or any event at the American Airlines Center, they let scan your ticket and there are certain areas you can walk outside and smoke. Now at the new Cowboys Stadium, you leave you don't get back in and you can't smoke anywhere inside there. At the Reliant Stadium in Houston, they have like an outdoor area that you don't have to leave the stadium in order to smoke. So I guess it is different according to to the venue and/or city regulations.

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« Reply #196 on: November 04, 2009, 02:48:41 PM »

Confirming she tried several entrances is huge, imo.  Couple reasons, she was coherent enough to do so. She was utilizing the friends advice meaning she was not under the impression Morgan was leaving at any time, by the phone call looking for her, and then the confirmation she was trying to get back in.

So, they dont know why she breaches the outer exit under the guise of using the restroom, she's texting with a guy they won't comment on, finds herself "locked out" and then leaves to get some sort of gratuitous ride home after removing the cell battery?

Never. She went outside with the knowledge something she was getting or doing would get her back in- security passes?
Backstage passes?

Whoever took Morgan left her purse/cell/wallet there for one reason. To set jurisdiction, away from the one they are in, or from where they will find her, imo. I dont know where they are planning the search this weekend, but if it is in the general area she was last seen, they won't find her, sadly. 
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« Reply #197 on: November 04, 2009, 04:06:49 PM »

There's a search occurring in woods near Rivanna River

from FB page    Anyone hear this?
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« Reply #198 on: November 04, 2009, 04:41:29 PM »

There's a search occurring in woods near Rivanna River

from FB page    Anyone hear this?

yes, there has been a LE deployment this afternoon
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« Reply #199 on: November 04, 2009, 04:44:25 PM »

There's a search occurring in woods near Rivanna River

from FB page    Anyone hear this?

yes, there has been a LE deployment this afternoon

Is there live coverage or anything...
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