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« Reply #420 on: October 23, 2009, 06:46:58 PM »

This is a what if......A teenager hit her with a automobile driving on the hwy she was walking home on....freaked out and took her into the woods.

She was large for her age, 5'2 and over 108lbs.  If another teen took her into the woods I think they would have difficulty getting deep into the woods carrying/dragging her in there.  If they drove then the tracks would have been easy to follow as woudl any blood trail.
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« Reply #421 on: October 23, 2009, 06:50:28 PM »

Missing 9-year-old Missouri girl found dead

KMOV)-- Authorities have found the body of the 9 year old missing since Wednesday.


They found the body of Elizabeth Olten around 2:30 p.m. Friday in a dense, wooded area not too far from the area they'd been searching.

Authorities were lead to her body by another child, who's now in custody and expected to be charged with Elizabeth’s death.

Cole County Sheriff Greg White said he started getting written and physical evidence late this morning. "There were some written notes a person had made that led us to that person of interest and that's all I’m going to say,” he said.

Sheriff White said because of the suspect's age he can't say much about him or her other than the child is older than 9-year-old Elizabeth and the pair knew each other. Most of the details of this case are being kept vague so as not to jeopardize the prosecution of the yet-to-be charged minor.

More than 350 people from the area helped in the effort to find Elizabeth the past couple of days.   The sheriff said moments after he was sure what happened he went to Elizabeth’s family's house.

While word got out about Elizabeth soon after she went missing, there never was an amber alert.

http://www.kmov.com/topstories/stories/kmov-stlouis-091022-missing-girl-jefferson-city.23f506cd1.html
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« Reply #422 on: October 23, 2009, 06:52:46 PM »

This is a what if......A teenager hit her with a automobile driving on the hwy she was walking home on....freaked out and took her into the woods.
I was seeing something about that on another forum, also, a new poster on WS first post, and all it said, was 15 girl. So I don't know if this person was causing trouble or this person knows it was a girl that is 15.  Could very well be a teenager accidently hit her with the car and hid her body, but surely there would have been blood on the highway.
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« Reply #423 on: October 23, 2009, 06:54:54 PM »

Sheriff White said because of the suspect's age he can't say much about him or her other than the child is older than 9-year-old Elizabeth and the pair knew each other.    My mind keeps wondering to one of Jasmine's children 
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« Reply #424 on: October 23, 2009, 06:55:43 PM »

Police find body of missing 9-year-old Mo. girl
By CHRIS BLANK (AP) – 31 minutes ago

ST. MARTINS, Mo. — The body of a missing 9-year-old Missouri girl was found in a wooded area near the state capital on Friday, two days after she was last seen walking from a neighbor's home, police said.

Cole County Sheriff Greg White said a juvenile, described only as a "person of interest," was taken into custody. The juvenile was acquainted with the girl, Elizabeth Olten, White said.

The sheriff not give any details on how Elizabeth died or about the juvenile in custody except to say that the person lived in the area west of Jefferson City and was older than the girl. Police said Elizabeth's body was found just before 3 p.m.

"We were able to obtain some physical evidence and through some analysis of some of the evidence and in all honesty some written evidence, we were able to develop a person of interest," White said. "Once we reached that person and interviewed them, ultimately they led us to where we've recovered Elizabeth's body."

Elizabeth was last seen when she started walking home from a neighbor's house on Wednesday evening. A woman who answered a family spokeswoman's phone Friday said Elizabeth's family had no immediate comment.

White said had spoken with Elizabeth's mother and said the family is "deeply grieving."

"I'm a parent, and I know how I would feel. I would simply leave it to you that they are grieving," he said.

Earlier Friday, about 70 people had searched for Elizabeth on horseback, with all-terrain vehicles and on foot while another 70 investigators checked leads, White said. Several hundred people had joined the search Thursday despite a steady rain and rough terrain.

Police focused their search area after they figured out roughly where Elizabeth's phone was located. White said the phone was later found but declined to say if it had turned up evidence.

The Missouri State Highway Patrol searched by helicopter with thermal imaging radar, and the Missouri State Water Patrol checked ponds in the area with sonar.

Highway Patrol Superintendent Col. James Keathley said he wishes the outcome was better.

"It's been quite an ordeal for the last few days. There's a lot emotions involved in this. It's been tough on everybody involved in this case," Keathley said.

David Schulte, who lives nearby, said Elizabeth typically would walk through his front yard about 30 or 40 feet away from the road on her way back home from the friend's house. Schulte said he didn't know Elizabeth well but that she had come through the neighborhood to sell cookie dough for a school fundraiser.

Schulte, who had helped with the search, said the area around where the phone was transmitting signals was about one-quarter of a mile away from the county highway and in the middle of the woods. He said it is easy to get turned around and difficult to hold straight search lines because the terrain is all "ridges and valleys" along with brambles.

"You'd have to want to be back there," said Schulte, before police announced that Elizabeth's body had been found.

Cole County Prosecutor Mark Richardson did not immediately return a call seeking comment Friday.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iL2APTMLoOIa6NBqXxEd_DKqAkDQD9BH2OOO5
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« Reply #425 on: October 23, 2009, 06:58:16 PM »

Sheriff White said because of the suspect's age he can't say much about him or her other than the child is older than 9-year-old Elizabeth and the pair knew each other.    My mind keeps wondering to one of Jasmine's children 

I know.  Especially after reading those messages left on Topix.  I really hope we are wrong.  I also know that if this is a juvenile and goes to school there will Eb two people not going into school Monday so the rumour mill will be flying on Monday in their little town about anyone that is not in school.
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« Reply #426 on: October 23, 2009, 06:59:10 PM »

Marc Klass Knows Pain Cole County, MO Family Is Going Through

http://www.fox2now.com/ktvi-marc-klass-amber-alerts-102309,0,5959117.story
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« Reply #427 on: October 23, 2009, 07:01:04 PM »

JEFFERSON CITY, MO (kcur) - A little girl from St. Martins,Mo., missing nearly two days has been found dead in a deep stand of woods. And an older boy has been arrested.
Elizabeth Olten told parents on a cell phone she was walking home from neighbors Wednesday late afternoon. She vanished. Electronics technicians were able to detect 'pings' from her phone for a time but they faded. The search had been joined by F.B.I. agents, Missouri Highway Patrol troopers and volunteers.


Search teams with dogs were in their second day of covering wooded terrain within a mile of the girl's home when, Sheriff Greg White of Cole County said, written and other evidence led then to a somewhat older boy, still a minor. And that boy led them to her body. Reporters questioned the sheriff after the discover of the girl's remains and the arrest. He said evidence teams were processing several areas. Asked to clarify the relationship between the child and the boy who was arrested, Sheriff White would only say---"they are acquainted."

Elizabeth Olten was 9 years old. Authorities asked prayers for her family, members of which were said to be 'deeply grieving.'

http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/kcur/news.newsmain/article/1/0/1569657/KCUR.News/Hunt.Ends.Child.Found.Dead
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« Reply #428 on: October 23, 2009, 07:03:30 PM »

JEFFERSON CITY, MO (kcur) - A little girl from St. Martins,Mo., missing nearly two days has been found dead in a deep stand of woods. And an older boy has been arrested.
Elizabeth Olten told parents on a cell phone she was walking home from neighbors Wednesday late afternoon. She vanished. Electronics technicians were able to detect 'pings' from her phone for a time but they faded. The search had been joined by F.B.I. agents, Missouri Highway Patrol troopers and volunteers.


Search teams with dogs were in their second day of covering wooded terrain within a mile of the girl's home when, Sheriff Greg White of Cole County said, written and other evidence led then to a somewhat older boy, still a minor. And that boy led them to her body. Reporters questioned the sheriff after the discover of the girl's remains and the arrest. He said evidence teams were processing several areas. Asked to clarify the relationship between the child and the boy who was arrested, Sheriff White would only say---"they are acquainted."

Elizabeth Olten was 9 years old. Authorities asked prayers for her family, members of which were said to be 'deeply grieving.'

http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/kcur/news.newsmain/article/1/0/1569657/KCUR.News/Hunt.Ends.Child.Found.Dead


If this reporter is correct, then I hope beyond hope she was not molested.  I am not sure how this one reporter would get BOY when the rest of the media have no clue as White would not say.
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« Reply #429 on: October 23, 2009, 07:04:07 PM »

The amber alert needs to change, everyone knows it, says it but it is not changed. So stupid!

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« Reply #430 on: October 23, 2009, 07:10:12 PM »

That person who showed up on WS saying it was a 15 year old girl, is now on IS saying the same exact thing 
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« Reply #431 on: October 23, 2009, 07:13:34 PM »

The amber alert needs to change, everyone knows it, says it but it is not changed. So stupid!



i don't think an Amber would have helped her.

BUT, that said, cops said they didn't issue one because they were not sure there was foul play and, imo, that thinking was absolutely ridiculous.
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« Reply #432 on: October 23, 2009, 07:15:17 PM »

I am off to take my little guy to the Haunted Hall in our village.

Something that Elizabeth and Somer should have gotten to do this Halloween.

Prayers to both families and will talk to you monkeys later.
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« Reply #433 on: October 23, 2009, 07:20:20 PM »

That person who showed up on WS saying it was a 15 year old girl, is now on IS saying the same exact thing 

What is IS?
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« Reply #434 on: October 23, 2009, 07:20:28 PM »

Prayers to the family  an angelic monkey
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« Reply #435 on: October 23, 2009, 07:21:22 PM »

I am off to take my little guy to the Haunted Hall in our village.

Something that Elizabeth and Somer should have gotten to do this Halloween.

Prayers to both families and will talk to you monkeys later.

I am sure you will enjoy your haunted hall and your son.

God Bless
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« Reply #436 on: October 23, 2009, 07:22:52 PM »

I am off to take my little guy to the Haunted Hall in our village.

Something that Elizabeth and Somer should have gotten to do this Halloween.

Prayers to both families and will talk to you monkeys later.
Have a good time  an angelic monkey
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« Reply #437 on: October 23, 2009, 07:23:17 PM »

I wonder, was the written evidence is a text message?
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« Reply #438 on: October 23, 2009, 07:23:23 PM »

That person who showed up on WS saying it was a 15 year old girl, is now on IS saying the same exact thing 

What is IS?
In Sessions forum.
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« Reply #439 on: October 23, 2009, 07:24:12 PM »

The amber alert needs to change, everyone knows it, says it but it is not changed. So stupid!



i don't think an Amber would have helped her.

BUT, that said, cops said they didn't issue one because they were not sure there was foul play and, imo, that thinking was absolutely ridiculous.

I didn't quote my comment but it was in reaction to Marc Klaas's comment.
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