Elizabeth Olten #1 10/22/09 - 10/29/09

[klaasend]

so, I haven't been to any other forums today - is this all out at IS, WS, HFTM?

I've seen it around, on WS and other sites.  It will come out and I'm not sure it shouldn't.

[no rose colored glasses]

so, I haven't been to any other forums today - is this all out at IS, WS, HFTM?

I don't know what HFTM is but WS and IS yes, especially WS.

[klaasend]

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[jill]

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[jill]

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[Leroy]

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watching2 wrote on Oct 25, 2009 10:23 AM:
" My heart goes out to the Family's involved...

There are alot of questions by many I am sure..

I think alot more is going to come out in this case, Just too strange that this happen before or right as the report came out,If that is the case how did this person do all this without being spotted as the search was going on by friends and family that night. How did this person "well conceal" the girl alone? The young girl was young but she was not that small of a girl.

Either way I pray everyday for Elizabeths Family and The Accused Teens Family.

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And looking at her pics AB does not look like a *bigger/stonger* girl than most 15 year olds...makes you wonder i guess.

[no rose colored glasses]

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  To own that beautiful property it just has to be someone prominent, or somewhat prominent.  I'm sure the whole town and surrounding areas know who the perp is, you just can't keep something like that secret.

[Leroy]

Thank-you. Rumor has it the grave was pre dug    I don't even know what to say about that, and I wonder what will happen when they test her, is she mentally ill or plain evil? 

My guess is a little bit of both

[Northern Rose]

so, I haven't been to any other forums today - is this all out at IS, WS, HFTM?

I've seen it around, on WS and other sites.  It will come out and I'm not sure it shouldn't.

Someone on twitter already poster that she was the suspect and her account last night.  A noticed from when I found her to when the alligation was made last night her followers went up from the two people she had so others know.

I started digging on the friend on Friday when the news came out and came up with the same family.  Mom has been in and out of jail, Dad is still in jail for drugs, 1st degree assault.  The last child (EA) has a different dad and I think that may have been the friend Elizabeth was visiting.  Grandma took over guardianship of all four kids from her daughter including the one everyone is thinking did this.  The  boys have not been on their myspace accounts since Oct 21.  What is even sadder is they had Elizabeth's older brother as a friend on their myspace accounts.

[no rose colored glasses]

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watching2 wrote on Oct 25, 2009 10:23 AM:
" My heart goes out to the Family's involved...

There are alot of questions by many I am sure..

I think alot more is going to come out in this case, Just too strange that this happen before or right as the report came out,If that is the case how did this person do all this without being spotted as the search was going on by friends and family that night. How did this person "well conceal" the girl alone? The young girl was young but she was not that small of a girl.

Either way I pray everyday for Elizabeths Family and The Accused Teens Family.

And looking at her pics AB does not look like a *bigger/stonger* girl than most 15 year olds...makes you wonder i guess.

   I have not seen any pics of her. Maybe she lured her into the woods, I'm guessing that wouldn't be too hard for a 15 year old to convince a 9 year old to come with her. If this is her, this is one dark girl reading some of the tweets.

[no rose colored glasses]

Thank-you. Rumor has it the grave was pre dug    I don't even know what to say about that, and I wonder what will happen when they test her, is she mentally ill or plain evil? 

My guess is a little bit of both

Yes, and maybe toss in drugs, meth is a problem there, pretty much like anywhere else I guess, I read that from some local, and the mom has drug problems, supposedly.

[Northern Rose]

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watching2 wrote on Oct 25, 2009 10:23 AM:
" My heart goes out to the Family's involved...

There are alot of questions by many I am sure..

I think alot more is going to come out in this case, Just too strange that this happen before or right as the report came out,If that is the case how did this person do all this without being spotted as the search was going on by friends and family that night. How did this person "well conceal" the girl alone? The young girl was young but she was not that small of a girl.

Either way I pray everyday for Elizabeths Family and The Accused Teens Family.

this IS interesting.  I hadn't given any thought as to whether anyone else is involved.

Klaas, regarding the name coming out - I am surprised that LE is so naive that they think it won't.  And if LE is simply protecting an influential family, I think it's completely ridiculous.

NORose - HFTM is HelpFindTheMissing.

Thank-you. Rumor has it the grave was pre dug    I don't even know what to say about that, and I wonder what will happen when they test her, is she mentally ill or plain evil?  

There was a comment late last night from someone that I have posted a page back that rumour is she did it to see what it felt like  to stab someone.

[no rose colored glasses]

so, I haven't been to any other forums today - is this all out at IS, WS, HFTM?

I've seen it around, on WS and other sites.  It will come out and I'm not sure it shouldn't.

Someone on twitter already poster that she was the suspect and her account last night.  A noticed from when I found her to when the alligation was made last night her followers went up from the two people she had so others know.

I started digging on the friend on Friday when the news came out and came up with the same family.  Mom has been in and out of jail, Dad is still in jail for drugs, 1st degree assault.  The last child (EA) has a different dad and I think that may have been the friend Elizabeth was visiting.  Grandma took over guardianship of all four kids from her daughter including the one everyone is thinking did this.  The  boys have not been on their myspace accounts since Oct 21.  What is even sadder is they had Elizabeth's older brother as a friend on their myspace accounts.

Yes, and isn't the dad in prison in CA? I haven't seen any pics, but have noticed a few comments about the boys in the house, kind of scary, I don't know how scary 11 year old boys could be.......

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What it felt to stab someone.....I said it yesterday, I'll say it again, the music will be partly to blame, sure isn't the first time, and won't be the last time. imo Of course with other excuses, bad homelife, etc....

[darla]

Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!

This is just beyond sad that a 15 yr old girl could do something like this. I am an old woman....what does EMO mean? Never heard of it here in the south.

[Northern Rose]

Thank-you. Rumor has it the grave was pre dug    I don't even know what to say about that, and I wonder what will happen when they test her, is she mentally ill or plain evil? 

My guess is a little bit of both

Yes, and maybe toss in drugs, meth is a problem there, pretty much like anywhere else I guess, I read that from some local, and the mom has drug problems, supposedly.

The Mom has had many court cases and drugs are the main theme.

[jill]

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watching2 wrote on Oct 25, 2009 10:23 AM:
" My heart goes out to the Family's involved...

There are alot of questions by many I am sure..

I think alot more is going to come out in this case, Just too strange that this happen before or right as the report came out,If that is the case how did this person do all this without being spotted as the search was going on by friends and family that night. How did this person "well conceal" the girl alone? The young girl was young but she was not that small of a girl.

Either way I pray everyday for Elizabeths Family and The Accused Teens Family.

And looking at her pics AB does not look like a *bigger/stonger* girl than most 15 year olds...makes you wonder i guess.

your right - she looks small for a 15 y.o.

I'm starting to seriously wonder if she had help.  Yuck.

[Northern Rose]

so, I haven't been to any other forums today - is this all out at IS, WS, HFTM?

I've seen it around, on WS and other sites.  It will come out and I'm not sure it shouldn't.

Someone on twitter already poster that she was the suspect and her account last night.  A noticed from when I found her to when the alligation was made last night her followers went up from the two people she had so others know.

I started digging on the friend on Friday when the news came out and came up with the same family.  Mom has been in and out of jail, Dad is still in jail for drugs, 1st degree assault.  The last child (EA) has a different dad and I think that may have been the friend Elizabeth was visiting.  Grandma took over guardianship of all four kids from her daughter including the one everyone is thinking did this.  The  boys have not been on their myspace accounts since Oct 21.  What is even sadder is they had Elizabeth's older brother as a friend on their myspace accounts.

Yes, and isn't the dad in prison in CA? I haven't seen any pics, but have noticed a few comments about the boys in the house, kind of scary, I don't know how scary 11 year old boys could be.......

I am not sure if he is still in jail in CA but he is still in jail. 

[jill]

so, I haven't been to any other forums today - is this all out at IS, WS, HFTM?

I've seen it around, on WS and other sites.  It will come out and I'm not sure it shouldn't.

Someone on twitter already poster that she was the suspect and her account last night.  A noticed from when I found her to when the alligation was made last night her followers went up from the two people she had so others know.

I started digging on the friend on Friday when the news came out and came up with the same family.  Mom has been in and out of jail, Dad is still in jail for drugs, 1st degree assault.  The last child (EA) has a different dad and I think that may have been the friend Elizabeth was visiting.  Grandma took over guardianship of all four kids from her daughter including the one everyone is thinking did this.  The  boys have not been on their myspace accounts since Oct 21.  What is even sadder is they had Elizabeth's older brother as a friend on their myspace accounts.

Northern - good to see you.

One thing I haven't been able to find is links from her to any friend except one.  Luckily, most of these kids have private myspaces.

I haven't checked her siblings myspaces.