Elizabeth Olten #1 10/22/09 - 10/29/09

[jill]

I must've missed the photos of a home - is it the home of the suspect?

also, didn't the person on facebook say that it was a 6th grader that was supposedly arrested yesterday?  I think kids in six grade would be around 11-12 years old, wouldn't they?

[SunnyinTX]

This just doesn't make any sense whatsoever. I cannot think of a scenario that would prevent the sheriff from disclosing whether it is a 15 yr old boy or girl. Frankly, juvenile or not, they will probably be charged as an adult, and the name will come out anyhow. Unless politics is playing a role. That is a very big, fancy home for that area compared to the other homes around there. I wonder who lives there?

Hi Monks!   I wonder too and is their at 15 yo in the household?  Was their a 15 yo in the house that she left from?  Something is hinky and I don't know what. Surely people in the area know who has been arrested...and it hasn't been leaked??  I had to step away from all the cases for a night.....it was getting to  me....and I had an incident Thursday morning that left me a bit shaken. And I don't get shaken too easily. So I have been a bit off...more so than usual that is.  Thanks to all who have kept the thread up to date. I am shaking my head about the fund for the son's education....WTH is that about? I can't shake the hinky feeling....

[SunnyinTX]

This just doesn't make any sense whatsoever. I cannot think of a scenario that would prevent the sheriff from disclosing whether it is a 15 yr old boy or girl. Frankly, juvenile or not, they will probably be charged as an adult, and the name will come out anyhow. Unless politics is playing a role. That is a very big, fancy home for that area compared to the other homes around there. I wonder who lives there?

Hi Monks!   I wonder too and is their at 15 yo in the household?  Was their a 15 yo in the house that she left from?  Something is hinky and I don't know what. Surely people in the area know who has been arrested...and it hasn't been leaked??  I had to step away from all the cases for a night.....it was getting to  me....and I had an incident Thursday morning that left me a bit shaken. And I don't get shaken too easily. So I have been a bit off...more so than usual that is.  Thanks to all who have kept the thread up to date. I am shaking my head about the fund for the son's education....WTH is that about? I can't shake the hinky feeling...

eerr obviously I need to stop posting for a while....or go have a stiff mimosa!!

[Northern Rose]

I must've missed the photos of a home - is it the home of the suspect?

also, didn't the person on facebook say that it was a 6th grader that was supposedly arrested yesterday?  I think kids in six grade would be around 11-12 years old, wouldn't they?

The home of the friend she was at.  Can only be seen on Streetview.  I think you are right about the facebook post. 15 would make them grade 8 or 9 I would think.

[Northern Rose]

This just doesn't make any sense whatsoever. I cannot think of a scenario that would prevent the sheriff from disclosing whether it is a 15 yr old boy or girl. Frankly, juvenile or not, they will probably be charged as an adult, and the name will come out anyhow. Unless politics is playing a role. That is a very big, fancy home for that area compared to the other homes around there. I wonder who lives there?

Hi Monks!   I wonder too and is their at 15 yo in the household?  Was their a 15 yo in the house that she left from?  Something is hinky and I don't know what. Surely people in the area know who has been arrested...and it hasn't been leaked??  I had to step away from all the cases for a night.....it was getting to  me....and I had an incident Thursday morning that left me a bit shaken. And I don't get shaken too easily. So I have been a bit off...more so than usual that is.  Thanks to all who have kept the thread up to date. I am shaking my head about the fund for the son's education....WTH is that about? I can't shake the hinky feeling....

So sorry to hear you had an accident. Hope you are doing better.  They said 15 year old lived west of Saint Martins.  IMO they were either visiting as a friend, relative such as cousin or from a split marriage where one parent lives around there.  I still strongly believe they are connected to one of the five house that she walked from/past.

[Tracygirl]

15 years old and first degree murder? My god that leaves me speechless.

[SunnyinTX]

This just doesn't make any sense whatsoever. I cannot think of a scenario that would prevent the sheriff from disclosing whether it is a 15 yr old boy or girl. Frankly, juvenile or not, they will probably be charged as an adult, and the name will come out anyhow. Unless politics is playing a role. That is a very big, fancy home for that area compared to the other homes around there. I wonder who lives there?

Hi Monks!   I wonder too and is their at 15 yo in the household?  Was their a 15 yo in the house that she left from?  Something is hinky and I don't know what. Surely people in the area know who has been arrested...and it hasn't been leaked??  I had to step away from all the cases for a night.....it was getting to  me....and I had an incident Thursday morning that left me a bit shaken. And I don't get shaken too easily. So I have been a bit off...more so than usual that is.  Thanks to all who have kept the thread up to date. I am shaking my head about the fund for the son's education....WTH is that about? I can't shake the hinky feeling....

So sorry to hear you had an accident. Hope you are doing better.  They said 15 year old lived west of Saint Martins.  IMO they were either visiting as a friend, relative such as cousin or from a split marriage where one parent lives around there.  I still strongly believe they are connected to one of the five house that she walked from/past.

Hi NR...I didn't have an accident...but saw one happen got out to help and a young man died in my arms...it shook me to my bones....

I agree with the connection to one of the five houses.....that does not seem to be an area that anyone would be in without a reason.

[Fanny Mae]

This just doesn't make any sense whatsoever. I cannot think of a scenario that would prevent the sheriff from disclosing whether it is a 15 yr old boy or girl. Frankly, juvenile or not, they will probably be charged as an adult, and the name will come out anyhow. Unless politics is playing a role. That is a very big, fancy home for that area compared to the other homes around there. I wonder who lives there?

Hi Monks!   I wonder too and is their at 15 yo in the household?  Was their a 15 yo in the house that she left from?  Something is hinky and I don't know what. Surely people in the area know who has been arrested...and it hasn't been leaked??  I had to step away from all the cases for a night.....it was getting to  me....and I had an incident Thursday morning that left me a bit shaken. And I don't get shaken too easily. So I have been a bit off...more so than usual that is.  Thanks to all who have kept the thread up to date. I am shaking my head about the fund for the son's education....WTH is that about? I can't shake the hinky feeling....

So sorry to hear you had an accident. Hope you are doing better.  They said 15 year old lived west of Saint Martins.  IMO they were either visiting as a friend, relative such as cousin or from a split marriage where one parent lives around there.  I still strongly believe they are connected to one of the five house that she walked from/past.

Hi NR...I didn't have an accident...but saw one happen got out to help and a young man died in my arms...it shook me to my bones....

I agree with the connection to one of the five houses.....that does not seem to be an area that anyone would be in without a reason.

SUNNY, I am sorry you had to go through such a traumatic experience. That you would go to the aid of someone like that shows what a good hearted person you really are. 
 

[Northern Rose]

Police Charge 15 Year Old With Murder Of Cole County, MO Girl
Elizabeth Olten's Body Was Found In A Wooded Area Friday

ST. MARTINS, Mo. (AP) - Authorities have charged a 15-year-old with first-degree murder for the death of a 9-year-old girl in central Missouri. Cole County Juvenile Court Administrator Michael Couty said Saturday that the 15-year-old is being detained for the death of Elizabeth Olten. Police did not release the teen's gender or name. Elizabeth's body was found Friday, two days after she went missing, after the suspect led police to a wooded area near her home west of Jefferson City.

Cole County Sheriff Greg White said Saturday that the girl was found in an area that had previously been searched but she had been "very well concealed."

White said Elizabeth was acquainted with the suspect but declined to elaborate.

http://www.fox2now.com/ktvi-teen-charged-murder-elizabeth-olten-102409,0,7690864.story

[Northern Rose]

Olten Death Investigation Continues
Person of interest, a local juvenile, in custody.50 min ago - Petition Filed: Teen Committed 1st Degree Murder

Authorities announced Saturday that the juvenile system filed a petition Friday with the Cole Co. Family Court that a 15 year old committed offensive murder in the first degree of Elizabeth Olten.  Posted by Erica Nochlin


http://www.kmiz.com/news/story.php?id=15307
 

[no rose colored glasses]

This just doesn't make any sense whatsoever. I cannot think of a scenario that would prevent the sheriff from disclosing whether it is a 15 yr old boy or girl. Frankly, juvenile or not, they will probably be charged as an adult, and the name will come out anyhow. Unless politics is playing a role. That is a very big, fancy home for that area compared to the other homes around there. I wonder who lives there?

Hi Monks!   I wonder too and is their at 15 yo in the household?  Was their a 15 yo in the house that she left from?  Something is hinky and I don't know what. Surely people in the area know who has been arrested...and it hasn't been leaked??  I had to step away from all the cases for a night.....it was getting to  me....and I had an incident Thursday morning that left me a bit shaken. And I don't get shaken too easily. So I have been a bit off...more so than usual that is.  Thanks to all who have kept the thread up to date. I am shaking my head about the fund for the son's education....WTH is that about? I can't shake the hinky feeling....

I sure hope you are okay, and I do know what you mean about having to walk away for awhile from all this. We sure do think alike because I have some hinky feelings as well. This isn't adding up to me, the only thing I can figure is the perp and Elizabeth walked into the woods together, now for what reason I don't know. And this 15 year old sure must have known the woods pretty well to hide her so good. I wonder if the perp had this planned out for awhile? I can't believe that people in that area haven't been saying the name of the teen, but then again, because of the age, I'm not sure if forums such as here can put the name out even if someone knows it  All such a dirty shame.

[SunnyinTX]

SUNNY, I am sorry you had to go through such a traumatic experience. That you would go to the aid of someone like that shows what a good hearted person you really are. 
 

Fanny, it was one of those knee jerk reactions...had I stopped to think about it I might not have done it. There were many people who stopped.....it was a bad accident....why in the heck won't people slow down when it's raining? A young life gone in an instant, becasue someone didn't hve the sense to slow down!!  I just happened to be coming from Kohl's and had a bag full of new white towels.....

And these 2 little girls murdered in 2 days....it shakes ones faith a bit.  Or it did mine. I had to step back and regain some faith in believing that we are not in control....no matter what.

[no rose colored glasses]

This just doesn't make any sense whatsoever. I cannot think of a scenario that would prevent the sheriff from disclosing whether it is a 15 yr old boy or girl. Frankly, juvenile or not, they will probably be charged as an adult, and the name will come out anyhow. Unless politics is playing a role. That is a very big, fancy home for that area compared to the other homes around there. I wonder who lives there?

Hi Monks!   I wonder too and is their at 15 yo in the household?  Was their a 15 yo in the house that she left from?  Something is hinky and I don't know what. Surely people in the area know who has been arrested...and it hasn't been leaked??  I had to step away from all the cases for a night.....it was getting to  me....and I had an incident Thursday morning that left me a bit shaken. And I don't get shaken too easily. So I have been a bit off...more so than usual that is.  Thanks to all who have kept the thread up to date. I am shaking my head about the fund for the son's education....WTH is that about? I can't shake the hinky feeling....

So sorry to hear you had an accident. Hope you are doing better.  They said 15 year old lived west of Saint Martins.  IMO they were either visiting as a friend, relative such as cousin or from a split marriage where one parent lives around there.  I still strongly believe they are connected to one of the five house that she walked from/past.

Hi NR...I didn't have an accident...but saw one happen got out to help and a young man died in my arms...it shook me to my bones....

I agree with the connection to one of the five houses.....that does not seem to be an area that anyone would be in without a reason.

Sunny, I have no words, my thoughts and prayers  I'm very sorry.

[SunnyinTX]

Police Charge 15 Year Old With Murder Of Cole County, MO Girl
Elizabeth Olten's Body Was Found In A Wooded Area Friday

ST. MARTINS, Mo. (AP) - Authorities have charged a 15-year-old with first-degree murder for the death of a 9-year-old girl in central Missouri. Cole County Juvenile Court Administrator Michael Couty said Saturday that the 15-year-old is being detained for the death of Elizabeth Olten. Police did not release the teen's gender or name. Elizabeth's body was found Friday, two days after she went missing, after the suspect led police to a wooded area near her home west of Jefferson City.

Cole County Sheriff Greg White said Saturday that the girl was found in an area that had previously been searched but she had been "very well concealed."

White said Elizabeth was acquainted with the suspect but declined to elaborate.

http://www.fox2now.com/ktvi-teen-charged-murder-elizabeth-olten-102409,0,7690864.story

I am perplexed as to why the officials are not even saying the sex of the juvenile?  And her body was well hidden.....how far from where her cell phone was found?

[SunnyinTX]

Olten Death Investigation Continues
Person of interest, a local juvenile, in custody.50 min ago - Petition Filed: Teen Committed 1st Degree Murder

Authorities announced Saturday that the juvenile system filed a petition Friday with the Cole Co. Family Court that a 15 year old committed offensive murder in the first degree of Elizabeth Olten.  Posted by Erica Nochlin


http://www.kmiz.com/news/story.php?id=15307

I hope this person is charged as an adult.....first degree murder IMO is an adult offense.

[Fanny Mae]

Police Charge 15 Year Old With Murder Of Cole County, MO Girl
Elizabeth Olten's Body Was Found In A Wooded Area Friday

ST. MARTINS, Mo. (AP) - Authorities have charged a 15-year-old with first-degree murder for the death of a 9-year-old girl in central Missouri. Cole County Juvenile Court Administrator Michael Couty said Saturday that the 15-year-old is being detained for the death of Elizabeth Olten. Police did not release the teen's gender or name. Elizabeth's body was found Friday, two days after she went missing, after the suspect led police to a wooded area near her home west of Jefferson City.

Cole County Sheriff Greg White said Saturday that the girl was found in an area that had previously been searched but she had been "very well concealed."

White said Elizabeth was acquainted with the suspect but declined to elaborate.

http://www.fox2now.com/ktvi-teen-charged-murder-elizabeth-olten-102409,0,7690864.story

I am perplexed as to why the officials are not even saying the sex of the juvenile?  And her body was well hidden.....how far from where her cell phone was found?

I think she must have been concealed in a deep crevice or a small concealed cave, just what I think. I'm thinking the cell phone was with her too, but again, just what it appears to me.

[no rose colored glasses]

SUNNY, I am sorry you had to go through such a traumatic experience. That you would go to the aid of someone like that shows what a good hearted person you really are. 
 

Fanny, it was one of those knee jerk reactions...had I stopped to think about it I might not have done it. There were many people who stopped.....it was a bad accident....why in the heck won't people slow down when it's raining? A young life gone in an instant, becasue someone didn't hve the sense to slow down!!  I just happened to be coming from Kohl's and had a bag full of new white towels.....

And these 2 little girls murdered in 2 days....it shakes ones faith a bit.  Or it did mine. I had to step back and regain some faith in believing that we are not in control....no matter what.

     I have a very bad time understanding how one can be out and about happy, and the next minute you can be gone just like that. I guess it is life, just something that sends chills through me when I think about it. I wish people would slow down period and stop talking on their phones, it is bad here where I live, and you just know that one of these maniacs is going to run over a kid in the neighborhood, because of their ignorance  Please take care, and a mimosa does sound good 

[Northern Rose]

Police Charge 15 Year Old With Murder Of Cole County, MO Girl
Elizabeth Olten's Body Was Found In A Wooded Area Friday

ST. MARTINS, Mo. (AP) - Authorities have charged a 15-year-old with first-degree murder for the death of a 9-year-old girl in central Missouri. Cole County Juvenile Court Administrator Michael Couty said Saturday that the 15-year-old is being detained for the death of Elizabeth Olten. Police did not release the teen's gender or name. Elizabeth's body was found Friday, two days after she went missing, after the suspect led police to a wooded area near her home west of Jefferson City.

Cole County Sheriff Greg White said Saturday that the girl was found in an area that had previously been searched but she had been "very well concealed."

White said Elizabeth was acquainted with the suspect but declined to elaborate.

http://www.fox2now.com/ktvi-teen-charged-murder-elizabeth-olten-102409,0,7690864.story

I am perplexed as to why the officials are not even saying the sex of the juvenile?  And her body was well hidden.....how far from where her cell phone was found?

An article last night stated her cell was with her body.

[no rose colored glasses]

Olten Death Investigation Continues
Person of interest, a local juvenile, in custody.50 min ago - Petition Filed: Teen Committed 1st Degree Murder

Authorities announced Saturday that the juvenile system filed a petition Friday with the Cole Co. Family Court that a 15 year old committed offensive murder in the first degree of Elizabeth Olten.  Posted by Erica Nochlin


http://www.kmiz.com/news/story.php?id=15307

I hope this person is charged as an adult.....first degree murder IMO is an adult offense.

Me too, and how would they punish you if it is first degree murder as a juvenile?

[SunnyinTX]

I sure hope you are okay, and I do know what you mean about having to walk away for awhile from all this. We sure do think alike because I have some hinky feelings as well. This isn't adding up to me, the only thing I can figure is the perp and Elizabeth walked into the woods together, now for what reason I don't know. And this 15 year old sure must have known the woods pretty well to hide her so good. I wonder if the perp had this planned out for awhile? I can't believe that people in that area haven't been saying the name of the teen, but then again, because of the age, I'm not sure if forums such as here can put the name out even if someone knows it  All such a dirty shame.
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I am fine...I just had to regroup...I have been reading both threads and checking in at Caylee's and I think I was on emotion overload. We do think alike often. You know what is said about great minds I can see authorities not revealing the name...but the sex??  and that is a small community....I have to think that the whole or at least most of the community know by now....and no one is talking?  Too strange!!