Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 - 11/18/09

[no rose colored glasses]

Thanks for the info on deer cams. Someone on another forum brought up a question, and since I would have no idea, because of the homes so close to the woods, would deer hunting be prohibited in that patch of woods because of that?

NORose, I'm not positive, but I think the cams are USED for hunting.

Like a modern-day deer hide.

Thank-you

[MuffyBee]

OT There is a serial rapeist loose in Tx.

http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/69676667.html


"It" is attacking elderly ladies that live alone. "It" has been connected to rapes in South and Central Texas.


Txsflame~  You might want to add your link to this thread:
Thread at Scared Monkeys started: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6368.0
Small Texas town reacts to predator who targets elderly

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 WOW you all are always one step ahead of me.. I had no idea there was already a thread for it.  Ty for pointing it out!

I can see why you might have missed it Txsflame, due to the way it is titled.  I may alter the subject title because this has grown to be something much bigger then initially anticipated, IMO. 

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I just found this on CR myspace.

[Kenda]

OFF TOPIC***

Ukrainian pneumonic plague
It appears that a new plague has hit Ukrainian infecting over 500,000  killing several hundred, but not a word from MSM. WHO states its probably a form of h1n1 but people r dying with hemoradic  conditions. Lungs filling with blood and high fevers; Why we are not being informed about this in USA ?

http://www.fightbackh1n1.com/2009/11/is-baxter-behind-outbreak-of-pneumonic.html

Edit:  Fix Typo  MB

[Elong]

RUMOR ALERT:

I have only heard this from my husband's niece who lives in the area but apparently HS students are being pressured by administration with thinly veiled threats of possible charges if any information is leaked.  Krystal said that through word of mouth, nothing in writting of course, it was made very clear that if anyone from the HS posted anything online in regard to the case and was id-ed they would be charged with whatever is appropriate.  My question would be why would parents allow their children to be threatened?  I know that they're probably trying to protect the children from ?? something but don't you think it's a little late in the day for that??  I am amazed with the efficiency and totality of the hush campaign though. I can't believe no details have been leaked beyond the name of AB.  There must be some serious threats out there.  Once again JUST RUMOR.  Thanks for letting me babble!

[Kenda]

OFF TOPIC***

One more website to give info about Ukrainian  pneumonic plague.

http://preventdisease.com/news/09/110409_ukraine_plague_flu_strain_more_lethal_H1N1.shtml

Edit: fix typos.  You might want to open a thread for this or post in musings for discussion.  MB

[Northern Rose]

   WELCOME ALL NEW MONKEYS   

TY for the prayers.  My house has been hit hard with H1N1, one son with collapsed lung, another currently in hospital, and hubby and youngest still fighting keeping fevers down. 

Took me a while to catch up.  In regards to the secrecy/censorship it just amazes me.  When KOMU posted their statement a while back that they use their technology the way they determine,  to me it was a sign that nothing would be reported.  This area of MO seems to be tighter lipped than cold war USSR.  Amazing how that can happen.  After some digging I found that Holly Edgell is the executive producer at KOMU and serves as the advisor for the Missouri School of Journalism.  Scares me what they may be teaching as ethics in journalism, forget investigative reporting, oh he77 forget reporting period.... and that a news station chooses to not report the news.  Holly has a email posted edgellh@missouri.edu in case anyone wants to ask her questions. 

The Nov 6th listing of The Most for KOMU included Elizabeth's case.  With not one article about this for the entire week she is still on the most list, yet KOMU refuses to report anything about the case:

Thanks for visiting The Most on KOMU.com.  Here, we take a look at The Most viewed, Tweeted and Facebooked stories on KOMU.com.

You’ve been coming to KOMU.com for updates on the Elizabeth Olten case, which continues to be The Most viewed story this week. In a closed-door meeting last Wednesday, a Cole County judge ruled the 15-year-old suspect’s hearing will be open to the public. The hearing will determine whether the suspect can stand trial as an adult.  If so, the suspect's name and gender will be released.

http://www.komu.com/satellite/SatelliteRender/KOMU.com/ba8a4513-c0a8-2f11-0063-9bd94c70b769/ca752ff4-80ce-0971-0015-4d756c9c1bd1

[jill]

  WELCOME ALL NEW MONKEYS   

TY for the prayers.  My house has been hit hard with H1N1, one son with collapsed lung, another currently in hospital, and hubby and youngest still fighting keeping fevers down. 

Took me a while to catch up.  In regards to the secrecy/censorship it just amazes me.  When KOMU posted their statement a while back that they use their technology the way they determine,  to me it was a sign that nothing would be reported.  This area of MO seems to be tighter lipped than cold war USSR.  Amazing how that can happen.  After some digging I found that Holly Edgell is the executive producer at KOMU and serves as the advisor for the Missouri School of Journalism.  Scares me what they may be teaching as ethics in journalism, forget investigative reporting, oh he77 forget reporting period.... and that a news station chooses to not report the news.  Holly has a email posted edgellh@missouri.edu in case anyone wants to ask her questions. 

The Nov 6th listing of The Most for KOMU included Elizabeth's case.  With not one article about this for the entire week she is still on the most list, yet KOMU refuses to report anything about the case:

Thanks for visiting The Most on KOMU.com.  Here, we take a look at The Most viewed, Tweeted and Facebooked stories on KOMU.com.

You’ve been coming to KOMU.com for updates on the Elizabeth Olten case, which continues to be The Most viewed story this week. In a closed-door meeting last Wednesday, a Cole County judge ruled the 15-year-old suspect’s hearing will be open to the public. The hearing will determine whether the suspect can stand trial as an adult.  If so, the suspect's name and gender will be released.

http://www.komu.com/satellite/SatelliteRender/KOMU.com/ba8a4513-c0a8-2f11-0063-9bd94c70b769/ca752ff4-80ce-0971-0015-4d756c9c1bd1

Northern:

So goo to see you again, and sending my own thoughts and prayers your way that your family recovers quickly and fully.

I agree that this is very creepy.

Have we determined what is likely to happen once the judge rules that AB will be tried as an adult (note my optimism, lol!)?

I am wondering if anyone knows from previous cases what info will be available - if we will be able to do our own searches for docket info and stuff?

[jill]

*good, not goo.

[Txsflame]

I have a question. Since the court session is suppose to be open, do we have any locals that plan to attend?

[nana0567]

Latest rumor, this one just posted at IS:

"I'm hearing word that LE has found a deer tape made that caught the murder and proves that the POI had accomplices. Has anyone else heard anything of the sort? As I said, at this point it's just a rumor. I'm just looking to see if there's any sort of local corroboration. "

a 'deer tape' is from a trail camera set up in an area, pics/video, triggered by deer and other movement.  this being deer hunting season, could very well be.  i dunno.  any locals hearing about this? 

a deer cam?  hmmm... interesting.

I was doing some investigating on the internet last night and came across that too. At first it made me feel sick to my stomach...but then I thought it could prove to be a good thing to show who all was involved.

[nana0567]

Latest rumor, this one just posted at IS:

"I'm hearing word that LE has found a deer tape made that caught the murder and proves that the POI had accomplices. Has anyone else heard anything of the sort? As I said, at this point it's just a rumor. I'm just looking to see if there's any sort of local corroboration. "

a 'deer tape' is from a trail camera set up in an area, pics/video, triggered by deer and other movement.  this being deer hunting season, could very well be.  i dunno.  any locals hearing about this? 

a deer cam?  hmmm... interesting.

I was doing some investigating on the internet last night and came across that too. At first it made me feel sick to my stomach...but then I thought it could prove to be a good thing to show who all was involved.

Are we allowed to mention the name of the websites we find our information from? I'm new here...so thought I would just make sure. Also does anyone know what time AB goes to court on the 18th? 

[QueenieB]

RUMOR ALERT:

I have only heard this from my husband's niece who lives in the area but apparently HS students are being pressured by administration with thinly veiled threats of possible charges if any information is leaked.  Krystal said that through word of mouth, nothing in writting of course, it was made very clear that if anyone from the HS posted anything online in regard to the case and was id-ed they would be charged with whatever is appropriate.  My question would be why would parents allow their children to be threatened?  I know that they're probably trying to protect the children from ?? something but don't you think it's a little late in the day for that??  I am amazed with the efficiency and totality of the hush campaign though. I can't believe no details have been leaked beyond the name of AB.  There must be some serious threats out there.  Once again JUST RUMOR.  Thanks for letting me babble!

Elong, when I was perusing various MS accounts and one after another started going Private I completely thought the same thing...I wondered if LE was advising students, via the HS administration, to not mention, gossip, whisper a word about any of this.  The old "We WILL find you, we have ppl keeping tabs on this online, and anyone found to be so much as INSINUATING anything will be held accountable (or worse, investigated as having some association)".  You never know for sure, but teenagers TALK (a LOT) so for them ALL to be on what appears to be a self-inflicted lockdown is very, very suspicious. 

NorthernRose,  likening the secrecy in JC to that of Cold War USSR is eerily accurate.

My brain is thinking "Why all this secrecy?" and I can't think of anything that could even remotely be plausible.  Is someone in AB's family in the Witness Protection Program or something???  Seriously, what could it be?????

[Elong]

Slightly off topic:
Just goes to show you how paranoid I am about stating names!!  When I re-read that I used my niece's acutal name not initials my heart skipped a beat.  Then I realized, hey, she's not a party to any of this, just happens to live in the area, THEN I freaked thinking, oh good grief, what if someone checked my profile out, was able to deduce who she was, then she gets in trouble.  So THEN I put down my coffee, took a breather and told myself JC mentality is rubbing off on me all the way up here! 
Maybe someone can suggest some good relaxation techniques! 

[bananas]

Slightly off topic:
Just goes to show you how paranoid I am about stating names!!  When I re-read that I used my niece's acutal name not initials my heart skipped a beat.  Then I realized, hey, she's not a party to any of this, just happens to live in the area, THEN I freaked thinking, oh good grief, what if someone checked my profile out, was able to deduce who she was, then she gets in trouble.  So THEN I put down my coffee, took a breather and told myself JC mentality is rubbing off on me all the way up here! 
Maybe someone can suggest some good relaxation techniques! 

Relaxation will start when you remove hands from the keyboard and move away from the computer.... LOL.

 

[klaasend]

Latest rumor, this one just posted at IS:

"I'm hearing word that LE has found a deer tape made that caught the murder and proves that the POI had accomplices. Has anyone else heard anything of the sort? As I said, at this point it's just a rumor. I'm just looking to see if there's any sort of local corroboration. "

a 'deer tape' is from a trail camera set up in an area, pics/video, triggered by deer and other movement.  this being deer hunting season, could very well be.  i dunno.  any locals hearing about this? 

a deer cam?  hmmm... interesting.

I was doing some investigating on the internet last night and came across that too. At first it made me feel sick to my stomach...but then I thought it could prove to be a good thing to show who all was involved.

Are we allowed to mention the name of the websites we find our information from? I'm new here...so thought I would just make sure. Also does anyone know what time AB goes to court on the 18th? 

Yes, and I really would like a link back to that site.  I don't care what site it is unless it's an X rated or pornographic site (we don't allow x-rated or porn here)

[nana0567]

Latest rumor, this one just posted at IS:

"I'm hearing word that LE has found a deer tape made that caught the murder and proves that the POI had accomplices. Has anyone else heard anything of the sort? As I said, at this point it's just a rumor. I'm just looking to see if there's any sort of local corroboration. "

a 'deer tape' is from a trail camera set up in an area, pics/video, triggered by deer and other movement.  this being deer hunting season, could very well be.  i dunno.  any locals hearing about this? 

a deer cam?  hmmm... interesting.

I was doing some investigating on the internet last night and came across that too. At first it made me feel sick to my stomach...but then I thought it could prove to be a good thing to show who all was involved.

Are we allowed to mention the name of the websites we find our information from? I'm new here...so thought I would just make sure. Also does anyone know what time AB goes to court on the 18th? 

Yes, and I really would like a link back to that site.  I don't care what site it is unless it's an X rated or pornographic site (we don't allow x-rated or porn here)

Here is the link where I read about a possible video capture from a hunters deer cam. From what I've been told hunters set up deer cams just prior to deer hunting season.
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/forumdisplay.php?f=31
Go to this link and scroll down to EO name.

[darla]

Slightly off topic:
Just goes to show you how paranoid I am about stating names!!  When I re-read that I used my niece's acutal name not initials my heart skipped a beat.  Then I realized, hey, she's not a party to any of this, just happens to live in the area, THEN I freaked thinking, oh good grief, what if someone checked my profile out, was able to deduce who she was, then she gets in trouble.  So THEN I put down my coffee, took a breather and told myself JC mentality is rubbing off on me all the way up here! 
Maybe someone can suggest some good relaxation techniques! 

Good Afternoon Monkeys and guest!  ::MonkeyCheer3::WELCOME TO ALL THE NEW MONKEYS!

I have found that a bag of river rock from Walmarts and a good slingshot make for some nice relaxation....especially when you have a neighbor who acts like Cindy Anthony. 

[klaasend]

Latest rumor, this one just posted at IS:

"I'm hearing word that LE has found a deer tape made that caught the murder and proves that the POI had accomplices. Has anyone else heard anything of the sort? As I said, at this point it's just a rumor. I'm just looking to see if there's any sort of local corroboration. "

a 'deer tape' is from a trail camera set up in an area, pics/video, triggered by deer and other movement.  this being deer hunting season, could very well be.  i dunno.  any locals hearing about this? 

a deer cam?  hmmm... interesting.

I was doing some investigating on the internet last night and came across that too. At first it made me feel sick to my stomach...but then I thought it could prove to be a good thing to show who all was involved.

Are we allowed to mention the name of the websites we find our information from? I'm new here...so thought I would just make sure. Also does anyone know what time AB goes to court on the 18th? 

Yes, and I really would like a link back to that site.  I don't care what site it is unless it's an X rated or pornographic site (we don't allow x-rated or porn here)

Here is the link where I read about a possible video capture from a hunters deer cam. From what I've been told hunters set up deer cams just prior to deer hunting season.
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/forumdisplay.php?f=31
Go to this link and scroll down to EO name.

Interesting if true but I would be surprised.  Here is the exact post by Aelliott at the IS site:

11-10-2009, 11:16 PM
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New Rumor--Did anyone hear anything?
I'm hearing word that LE has found a deer tape made that caught the murder and proves that the POI had accomplices. Has anyone else heard anything of the sort? As I said, at this point it's just a rumor. I'm just looking to see if there's any sort of local corroboration.

[SunnyinTX]

  WELCOME ALL NEW MONKEYS   

TY for the prayers.  My house has been hit hard with H1N1, one son with collapsed lung, another currently in hospital, and hubby and youngest still fighting keeping fevers down. 

Took me a while to catch up.  In regards to the secrecy/censorship it just amazes me.  When KOMU posted their statement a while back that they use their technology the way they determine,  to me it was a sign that nothing would be reported.  This area of MO seems to be tighter lipped than cold war USSR.  Amazing how that can happen.  After some digging I found that Holly Edgell is the executive producer at KOMU and serves as the advisor for the Missouri School of Journalism.  Scares me what they may be teaching as ethics in journalism, forget investigative reporting, oh he77 forget reporting period.... and that a news station chooses to not report the news.  Holly has a email posted edgellh@missouri.edu in case anyone wants to ask her questions. 

The Nov 6th listing of The Most for KOMU included Elizabeth's case.  With not one article about this for the entire week she is still on the most list, yet KOMU refuses to report anything about the case:

Thanks for visiting The Most on KOMU.com.  Here, we take a look at The Most viewed, Tweeted and Facebooked stories on KOMU.com.

You’ve been coming to KOMU.com for updates on the Elizabeth Olten case, which continues to be The Most viewed story this week. In a closed-door meeting last Wednesday, a Cole County judge ruled the 15-year-old suspect’s hearing will be open to the public. The hearing will determine whether the suspect can stand trial as an adult.  If so, the suspect's name and gender will be released.

http://www.komu.com/satellite/SatelliteRender/KOMU.com/ba8a4513-c0a8-2f11-0063-9bd94c70b769/ca752ff4-80ce-0971-0015-4d756c9c1bd1

NR...I am sorry to read about the illnesses...I hope everyone recovers quickly...prayers for you and your family.