Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 - 11/18/09

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Hope it is not to big.. but Happy Halloween monkeys.

Never too big!!! Happy Halloween to you too. Have you had any trick or treaters? We've not had a single one. I hope they are having fun at parties and organized events. 

have not had the first trick or treater here. What on earth will I do with all that candy?

Sigh....I guess you will just have to eat it. 

Good thing it is mostly the kinds I like.

[Searching]

About the trick or treaters, in my area, the parks and rec departments have events for the children, they dress up and go from booth to booth trick or treating and playing booth games. Some kids still go door to door but less and less every year. most are at the functions done by the city/ies. The area stores donate candy and small toys for the events.

[Fanny Mae]

I have not seen any of the suspect's friends myspaces except for the one that happy2009 was just talking about.

Since they are all juveniles, I guess it's not proper to bring any links to them over. 

Fanny, I understand what you are saying but in THIS case we have a juvenile that has murdered a child.  Her juvenile friends (and her) have several social networking sites that are available for all to see.  IMO if they are old enough to plaster their feelings and photos and videos all over the internet certainly it's OK for us to post a link to their social networking sites.  The problem is does the suspect have FRIENDS that are on the verge of "just seeing what it's like" as well?   

So true. All I can say it is there for anyone who wants to dig for it. I would feel a lot more comfortable posting about the adults that were closest to Allysa. There is stuff out there about them too. So, I guess, if anyone wants to dig for it, it is there, that is, unless it is clean off the slate before we can post about it. There are a few screen shots, but for the most part, it has been erased. 

[Fanny Mae]

oops sorry Fanny i didnt see that about the links until after i posted that.. i thought there were posted before though so thats why i thought it was ok.. sorry if it wasnt ok.

It has been posted before HAPPY 2009. You didn't do anything wrong. It was discussed last night, I think. IIRC

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ok, in the spirit of halloween.. I have to post this link..kinda creepy..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oclya_UaGkY&feature=related

[no rose colored glasses]

ok, in the spirit of halloween.. I have to post this link..kinda creepy..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oclya_UaGkY&feature=related

I saw that once before, and that is beyond creepy 

[Fanny Mae]

ok, in the spirit of halloween.. I have to post this link..kinda creepy..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oclya_UaGkY&feature=related

YIKES!!!!

[joesamas mama]

IMO we need to stop making excuses for our teens.  They are becoming more and more resistant to authority because adults are afraid to say NO. 

Klaas, ITA.

When the parents aren't authority figures and there is nothing left but the children's teachers and the teachers/principals still have no way to punish the kids except for detention. Back in the day, I got detention, and an arse whooping when my mom found out why I was going to be late getting home.

Now days, kids can beat up their teachers, break chairs over them and the teachers have to take it and if the teacher throws the chair back on instinct, then the teacher is in big trouble.

  Rant over.... BTL JSM

[Northern Rose]

28 kids tonight which is a huge amount where we live.  Mind you it is a gorgeous night (38 degrees) and very little snow so no snow boots required or mitts and parkas.  Kids were out in force tonight and with the moon almost full it was great.  It was my turn to walk with the kids and their friends and it was such a nice night that we went further than ever before as I was thinking of all the children that should be out there enjoying this evening and are not. 

[Ariana]

Good Evening Monkeys,

Wow I finally was able to catch up and read all the posts. This case is just " off the Brain" ..This poor little girl Elizabeth at the demise of a twisted teenage girl .... makes my heart hurt and my brain snap. And I am sure that the teens in the local area "tonight" on devils night are tripping out. All the rumors and all the connections of this girl to who and whom.
I was trying to dig off her usernames ( AB) and I don't know if anyone came across this. I am not 100 percent sure, this maybe her or not.. But the similarities in info and mindset lead to the same personality. I wish I knew the meaning of the name Okamikage. Says on the profile that it is of a 15 yr old boy. The poetry written under the user name seems to be a girl... Is their a name Branden linked to AB?  kids today say they are 27 living in Hawaii and yet are 12 in Dallas ...so I just thought I would throw this out..there. 
http://allpoetry.com/okamikage
Profile:
snipped
my names wolf (not realy but thats what my account name means)
my favorite bands are AFI, mychemical romance, and santana.
my free time is spent drawing, writing in my book, skateboarding and spending time with my dad.
my lifes goal is to become a famous author, or a vet.
im a full blood hunter, no matter what my sister says.
my signature is crazy enough to kill smart enough to get away with it.
*** And if this is no link to her what the H#ll is wrong with kids today? why are they so obsessed with Death and Killing.
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This video from one of her friends on YT which I think they are from the same town. Saia56.
Has a comment under the video from AB. About killing Jenny who I think is the Jenny on the karaoke site. Singsnap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjmzFAzZAgQ
Singsnap: http://www.singsnap.com/snap/watchAndListen/play/b812b963c
the comment by J under her song, her photo and is a member of singsnap .. I think is the J who Saia56 is talking about killing. Who is Applegirl - Applegirl is J.
One other YT account under AB: http://www.youtube.com/user/omgxthesexshoesxrule
Where Saia and Apple are listed as friends.   
** I looked at AB's photo on singsnap for over 5 mins as I attempted to listen to her music, which I could not. But for the love of God ... when went to click off the site, it hit me for the first time her Eyes were open. The entire time I was looking at her photo, I thought her eyes were shut and she had a ton of eye makeup on.  Freaked me out. Was if she opened her eyes and they looked right through me.
So disturbing all of it.

The account at  allpoetry isn't hers.
 Okami is a Japanese video game (anime, naruto, manga, etc) and means 'wolf' i think, it's a character. 'kage' is the level of the ninja-if you are kage level you are most powerful. My daughter used to play these games all the time.

I knew I had heard the name before!

Okami Kage Hachi hide bio
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Author has written 3 stories for Naruto.
Name: Okami Kage (That's what I wanted to be but the computer wouldn't let me change my pen name to it.)

http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1417258/Okami_Kage_Hachi


I bought my son a Naruto book last year and he has one season of Naruto on DVD.

 

[Fanny Mae]

28 kids tonight which is a huge amount where we live.  Mind you it is a gorgeous night (38 degrees) and very little snow so no snow boots required or mitts and parkas.  Kids were out in force tonight and with the moon almost full it was great.  It was my turn to walk with the kids and their friends and it was such a nice night that we went further than ever before as I was thinking of all the children that should be out there enjoying this evening and are not. 

Yeah! You are very lucky living where you do. You and HIGHER HOPES are the only ones that are saying you had many trixsters.

[Fanny Mae]

I am having a tremendous sugar rush!! 

But I am going to try to go to bed and go to sleep.

Good Night Everybody. 

[Maven]

Hope it is not to big.. but Happy Halloween monkeys.

Never too big!!! Happy Halloween to you too. Have you had any trick or treaters? We've not had a single one. I hope they are having fun at parties and organized events. 

have not had the first trick or treater here. What on earth will I do with all that candy?

Searching - we never have any, there just aren't any kids in my neighborhood.  That doesn't stop me from buying at least one bag of candy and setting it out even though I know it will all be left over.  Oh......who will ever eat all those Butterfingers? 

LOL We didn't do trick-or-treating this year, we went to school instead and went trunk-or-treating, it was nice, but sadly no Butterfingers!

[klaasend]

So this is one of her books?  I skimmed through some of the chapters and knowing what we know now pretty scary stuff 

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4089350/6/Demon_Storm_Shinobi_Rain

[klaasend]

So this is one of her books?  I skimmed through some of the chapters and knowing what we know now pretty scary stuff 

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4089350/6/Demon_Storm_Shinobi_Rain

From chapter 6

[Fanny Mae]

So this is one of her books?  I skimmed through some of the chapters and knowing what we know now pretty scary stuff 

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4089350/6/Demon_Storm_Shinobi_Rain

KLAAS, that is not the kind of midnight reading that is going to help settle me down. 

[Northern Rose]

I am having a tremendous sugar rush!! 

But I am going to try to go to bed and go to sleep.

Good Night Everybody. 

Night Fanny. God Bless.

[Ariana]

I don't know which book I bought my son, I believe there are different authors.  Anime has some very dark stuff or some stuff that is very deep.  A lot of the cartoons from today are no more violent than He-Man and G.I. Joe were in the 80's.  The Naruto book I bought read backwards and was like a comic in book form.  I didn't read the whole thing but I sure did flip through, not that I followed it well, being backwards it was really confusing to figure out where I was supposed to read.

[Northern Rose]

I don't know which book I bought my son, I believe there are different authors.  Anime has some very dark stuff or some stuff that is very deep.  A lot of the cartoons from today are no more violent than He-Man and G.I. Joe were in the 80's.  The Naruto book I bought read backwards and was like a comic in book form.  I didn't read the whole thing but I sure did flip through, not that I followed it well, being backwards it was really confusing to figure out where I was supposed to read.

So for someone like me that used to watch Yogi Bear, Woody Woodpecker and Pokey and Gumby this stuff is pretty dark.

[happy2009]

Good nite everyone.. thank you all for the warm welcome! I will back back tomorrow as i have been everyday since i found you guys lol only now i can post too