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Topic: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 - 11/18/09 (Read 601155 times)
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jill
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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just in time for Christmas!!!!
http://twilightbarbies.com/
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Quote from: jill on November 02, 2009, 11:20:56 AM
Quote from: Northern Rose on November 02, 2009, 11:17:00 AM
Monday's Show
Olten murder: teen girl suspects'
dark side revealed
Breaking: A grim portrait of the 15-year-old girl suspect in the murder of Elizabeth Olten, 9, has begun to emerge. Dark writings on the internet including an alleged YouTube profile in which "killing people" is listed under the teen girl's hobbies. Even more shocking, an alleged video appears to show the teen suspect with her brothers purposefully shocking themselves on an electrified fence! Now that investigators know the extent of the angry & dark side of the teen girl murder suspect, was the murder of Elizabeth Olten just the beginning of a murderous rampage? Nancy Grace has the latest breaking developments, 8 & 10 PM E.T. on HLN.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/
I hope she doesn't show those vids on tv. Not fair to show those brothers faces.
She probably won't, but I think it is time to pull out all the stops on this case so we can get down to the nitty-gritty. JMO
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Please leave NG a blog message so this does not fall out of the headlines. IF it is true that Alyssa will not be charged as an adult unless there is public outrage lets make sure it stays in the national media.
http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2009/10/29/9-year-old-played-with-teen-girl-murder-suspect-prior-to-death/#comments
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Quote from: jill on November 02, 2009, 11:20:56 AM
Quote from: Northern Rose on November 02, 2009, 11:17:00 AM
Monday's Show
Olten murder: teen girl suspects'
dark side revealed
Breaking: A grim portrait of the 15-year-old girl suspect in the murder of Elizabeth Olten, 9, has begun to emerge. Dark writings on the internet including an alleged YouTube profile in which "killing people" is listed under the teen girl's hobbies. Even more shocking, an alleged video appears to show the teen suspect with her brothers purposefully shocking themselves on an electrified fence! Now that investigators know the extent of the angry & dark side of the teen girl murder suspect, was the murder of Elizabeth Olten just the beginning of a murderous rampage? Nancy Grace has the latest breaking developments, 8 & 10 PM E.T. on HLN.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/
I hope she doesn't show those vids on tv. Not fair to show those brothers faces.
this was on GMA this morning...I missed most of it but I saw parts of it...the faces were blurred out from what I saw...very strange...
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Quote from: jill on November 02, 2009, 11:22:19 AM
just in time for Christmas!!!!
http://twilightbarbies.com/
Well, Merry Christmas!!!!
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Quote from: jill on November 02, 2009, 11:06:17 AM
I totally agree.
The rule in our house is that myself or my husband have any and all passwords - if we find that the passwords are changed, kids lose comp privileges.
So far, they've followed the rules and not changed their passwords, lol.
Also, no myspaces for my kids, but they both have facebooks. Their facebooks have to pass the "grandparent test". Especially since their grandparents are on their friends lists.
I love those rules!
We can be very creative when it comes to discipline that works with teens. Back in the day, wrong usage of the comp has earned mine their keyboards being taken a couple of times.. (one time I came home from work to find sons/friends in a serious political chatroom, "having fun" being trolls).
Can't use the keyboard right? Ok, it'll sit in my room locked up. Got another keyboard, ya brat? Ok, I'll take your comp cord.
Speakers to their stereo has gone missing twice when they've chosen other ways to break rules. They get the point and straighten up real fast with those two. Heh. And of course, the keys to my Mustang strangely disappearing always worked. Not sure if it was them not being able to drive it, or their sudden need to walk everywhere, that made them toe the line.
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Quote from: cookie on November 02, 2009, 11:23:50 AM
Quote from: jill on November 02, 2009, 11:20:56 AM
Quote from: Northern Rose on November 02, 2009, 11:17:00 AM
Monday's Show
Olten murder: teen girl suspects'
dark side revealed
Breaking: A grim portrait of the 15-year-old girl suspect in the murder of Elizabeth Olten, 9, has begun to emerge. Dark writings on the internet including an alleged YouTube profile in which "killing people" is listed under the teen girl's hobbies. Even more shocking, an alleged video appears to show the teen suspect with her brothers purposefully shocking themselves on an electrified fence! Now that investigators know the extent of the angry & dark side of the teen girl murder suspect, was the murder of Elizabeth Olten just the beginning of a murderous rampage? Nancy Grace has the latest breaking developments, 8 & 10 PM E.T. on HLN.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/
I hope she doesn't show those vids on tv. Not fair to show those brothers faces.
this was on GMA this morning...I missed most of it but I saw parts of it...the faces were blurred out from what I saw...very strange...
if the faces are blurred, I'm good with it being released.
Big mistake, imo, to keep so much of this secret.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Quote from: Fanny Mae on November 02, 2009, 11:21:05 AM
Quote from: Northern Rose on November 02, 2009, 11:17:00 AM
Monday's Show
Olten murder: teen girl suspects'
dark side revealed
Breaking: A grim portrait of the 15-year-old girl suspect in the murder of Elizabeth Olten, 9, has begun to emerge. Dark writings on the internet including an alleged YouTube profile in which "killing people" is listed under the teen girl's hobbies. Even more shocking, an alleged video appears to show the teen suspect with her brothers purposefully shocking themselves on an electrified fence! Now that investigators know the extent of the angry & dark side of the teen girl murder suspect, was the murder of Elizabeth Olten just the beginning of a murderous rampage? Nancy Grace has the latest breaking developments, 8 & 10 PM E.T. on HLN.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/
O/O You have nanners.
I guess you figured out that O/T, you have nanners.
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Red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight. Jesus loves the little children of the world.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 02, 2009, 11:29:13 AM »
Quote from: Wyks on November 02, 2009, 11:27:39 AM
Quote from: jill on November 02, 2009, 11:06:17 AM
I totally agree.
The rule in our house is that myself or my husband have any and all passwords - if we find that the passwords are changed, kids lose comp privileges.
So far, they've followed the rules and not changed their passwords, lol.
Also, no myspaces for my kids, but they both have facebooks. Their facebooks have to pass the "grandparent test". Especially since their grandparents are on their friends lists.
I love those rules!
We can be very creative when it comes to discipline that works with teens. Back in the day, wrong usage of the comp has earned mine their keyboards being taken a couple of times.. (one time I came home from work to find sons/friends in a serious political chatroom, "having fun" being trolls).
Can't use the keyboard right? Ok, it'll sit in my room locked up. Got another keyboard, ya brat? Ok, I'll take your comp cord.
Speakers to their stereo has gone missing twice when they've chosen other ways to break rules. They get the point and straighten up real fast with those two. Heh. And of course, the keys to my Mustang strangely disappearing always worked. Not sure if it was them not being able to drive it, or their sudden need to walk everywhere, that made them toe the line.
thanks for the tips, Wyks!
lololol!
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Quote from: Fanny Mae on November 02, 2009, 11:16:59 AM
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Quote from: no rose colored glasses on November 02, 2009, 11:08:42 AM
Unless "Vampire Freaks" is considered "Twilight" stuff. If so, I would really be alarmed at the "Twilight" books that some think are so benign. jmo
I THINK (IMHO) that it is up to the kid how they take it. Even with my two kids, there thinking is so different..that what may make my duaghter laugh and say oh entertainmant, might really bother and upset my son.(or vice versa) Example.. I took the kids to see Spider Man when it first came out.. My kids have ALWAYS had a good grasp on fact or fiction.. BUT it took my SON yrs to quit believing if he got bit by a spider he would have super natural powers.(it is really scary to see ur son chasing around spiders TRYING to get bit) My daughter thought Harry Potter was stupid, my son got all confused by it.(not sure how many times i got asked "that cant happen....right?) It is just however the kid sees thing and how their little minds work. If they are bright and cheery, and easy going, then they see things that way. If they are (yes here I go with my fav saying) "dark and twisty" then they turn everything dark and twisty. If they see the hero as the good guy, or if they see the bad good as the good guy. Even in Twilight which I agree is basically a twist on a teenage love story, if a teen (or child) identifies with the BAD vampires, then the show becomes dark. It is no longer a sweet love story. It is once again up to the parent to KNOW what their child can and can not handle. "Awee darn we actually have to raise thiese lil creatures we brought in the world"
..I know I am preaching to the chior.. (btw I was being fecious with the last quote)
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I just went and checked out Smooth Criminal's pics (btw, her name last week was Dirty Diana after the Michael Jackson song - this chick is really doing her best to draw attention to herself).
She has removed a LOT of her pics - most notably the pics of her Washington friends which was labeled 2008-2009 Friends.
She's also added new photos, and new comments to the pics of her friends in MO.
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Since I am older than dirt, I remember rushing home every Sunday night just to listen to the radio program, "The Shadow"... Anyone else do that?
The sinister voice came over the radio with, "Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? The Shadow knows!" The Shadow was a perfectly creepy teller of mystery tales. I'd listen to those still, if I could.
My parents were horrified, of course. And I'd bet a good majority of us who were enthralled by The Shadow, did not grow up to be evil creepy people. Am betting it's the same for some in this generation's seeming interest in Twilight and other things vampire-ish. Seems there's an element of good over evil, just as it was with The Shadow.
Still think they ought to bring back Mr. Ed.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Quote from: Fanny Mae on November 02, 2009, 11:12:48 AM
Quote from: no rose colored glasses on November 02, 2009, 11:08:42 AM
I'm not understanding what you mean by Vampire blogs? Do you mean the Twilight stuff? I remember watching Dark Shadows when I was a kid and watching vampire movies. If it is the Twilight stuff, that is tame reading.
No, not "Twilight" stuff.
Can you direct me to where this is please?
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Quote from: cookie on November 02, 2009, 11:15:51 AM
Quote from: no rose colored glasses on November 02, 2009, 11:08:42 AM
I'm not understanding what you mean by Vampire blogs? Do you mean the Twilight stuff? I remember watching
Dark Shadows
when I was a kid and watching vampire movies. If it is the Twilight stuff, that is tame reading.
good ole Barnabus! that was on when I was a kid too...my mom always watched it...
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Quote from: jill on November 02, 2009, 11:16:56 AM
Quote from: no rose colored glasses on November 02, 2009, 11:08:42 AM
I'm not understanding what you mean by Vampire blogs? Do you mean the Twilight stuff? I remember watching Dark Shadows when I was a kid and watching vampire movies. If it is the Twilight stuff, that is tame reading.
this kind of stuff, NoRose:
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=174266347&albumId=2091637
I remember a few years ago I became aware that there are people in this world who WANT to look like vampires, and not just on Halloween!
Available now are crowns that are shaped like fangs that a dentist can fit - and also contact lenses to make eyes look vampirish.
Thanks, I read about the crowns and contact lenses to make one look like a vampire. Certainly not my cup of tea, but whatever. The fascination with vampires is nothing new.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Quote from: jill on November 02, 2009, 11:33:36 AM
I just went and checked out Smooth Criminal's pics (btw, her name last week was Dirty Diana after the Michael Jackson song - this chick is really doing her best to draw attention to herself).
She has removed a LOT of her pics - most notably the pics of her Washington friends which was labeled 2008-2009 Friends.
She's also added new photos, and new comments to the pics of her friends in MO.
Smooth Criminal is also a MJ song BTW.
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Quote from: Wyks on November 02, 2009, 11:41:22 AM
Since I am older than dirt, I remember rushing home every Sunday night just to listen to the radio program, "The Shadow"... Anyone else do that?
The sinister voice came over the radio with, "Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? The Shadow knows!" The Shadow was a perfectly creepy teller of mystery tales. I'd listen to those still, if I could.
My parents were horrified, of course. And I'd bet a good majority of us who were enthralled by The Shadow, did not grow up to be evil creepy people. Am betting it's the same for some in this generation's seeming interest in Twilight and other things vampire-ish. Seems there's an element of good over evil, just as it was with The Shadow.
Still think they ought to bring back Mr. Ed.
Pokey & Gumby, Woody Woodpecker, and Yogi Bear.
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Quote from: Wyks on November 02, 2009, 11:41:22 AM
Since I am older than dirt, I remember rushing home every Sunday night just to listen to the radio program, "The Shadow"... Anyone else do that?
The sinister voice came over the radio with, "Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? The Shadow knows!" The Shadow was a perfectly creepy teller of mystery tales. I'd listen to those still, if I could.
My parents were horrified, of course. And I'd bet a good majority of us who were enthralled by The Shadow, did not grow up to be evil creepy people. Am betting it's the same for some in this generation's seeming interest in Twilight and other things vampire-ish. Seems there's an element of good over evil, just as it was with The Shadow.
Still think they ought to bring back Mr. Ed.
Exactly, and for those that haven't ventured into the twilight series or movie, there really isn't even any sex in it. It is tame, and boring I put the book down.
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November 02, 2009, 11:56:36 AM »
Quote from: Northern Rose on November 02, 2009, 11:47:48 AM
Quote from: jill on November 02, 2009, 11:33:36 AM
I just went and checked out Smooth Criminal's pics (btw, her name last week was Dirty Diana after the Michael Jackson song - this chick is really doing her best to draw attention to herself).
She has removed a LOT of her pics - most notably the pics of her Washington friends which was labeled 2008-2009 Friends.
She's also added new photos, and new comments to the pics of her friends in MO.
Smooth Criminal is also a MJ song BTW.
thanks, Northern - I didn't know that. (there's a LOT I do not know, getting quite the education with this case, lol).
Was it TxsFlame who called this profile in to the tipline? I would like to give a big HIGH FIVE to TxsFlame for doing this.
After seeing this new photo which, imo, she created and posted specifically to draw attention to herself
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=211959030&albumID=438872&imageID=32067583
she DESERVES whatever attention she gets from law enforcement!!!!!
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Quote from: jill on November 02, 2009, 11:56:36 AM
Quote from: Northern Rose on November 02, 2009, 11:47:48 AM
Quote from: jill on November 02, 2009, 11:33:36 AM
I just went and checked out Smooth Criminal's pics (btw, her name last week was Dirty Diana after the Michael Jackson song - this chick is really doing her best to draw attention to herself).
She has removed a LOT of her pics - most notably the pics of her Washington friends which was labeled 2008-2009 Friends.
She's also added new photos, and new comments to the pics of her friends in MO.
Smooth Criminal is also a MJ song BTW.
thanks, Northern - I didn't know that. (there's a LOT I do not know, getting quite the education with this case, lol).
Was it TxsFlame who called this profile in to the tipline? I would like to give a big HIGH FIVE to TxsFlame for doing this.
After seeing this new photo which, imo, she created and posted specifically to draw attention to herself
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=211959030&albumID=438872&imageID=32067583
she DESERVES whatever attention she gets from law enforcement!!!!!
Somebody definitely needs to take her keyboard away from her.
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===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
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===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
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