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« Reply #80 on: October 30, 2009, 04:49:43 PM »

I can buy them wiping the knife off especially if AB lied about it> Maybe this was before they knew Elizabeth was missing. Then again, look at the lengths Cindy Anthony went to and still goes through to cover up for Casey. You just never know.
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« Reply #81 on: October 30, 2009, 05:16:37 PM »

THE MOST - October 30, 2009

Thanks for visiting The Most on KOMU.com.  Here, we take a look at The Most viewed, Tweeted and Facebooked stories on KOMU.com.

The Most viewed stories on KOMU.com last week are about 9-year-old Elizabeth Olten.  Together, the reports collected nearly 30,000 page views.  Authorities began searching for Elizabeth last Thursday, after she didn't return home from a friend's house.  On Friday, a Highway Patrol helicopter and a team of over 130 volunteers and investigators searched for Elizabeth.  Cole County Investigators discovered her body on Saturday.

"We came into possession of some written documents, the results of those documents gave us a person of interest.  After questioning that individual, we were taken to the sight where the body was found." Cole County Sheriff Greg White said.

Cole County charged the 15-year-old individual with first degree murder.  The juvenile will attend a hearing in November to determine whether they will be tried as an adult.

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http://www.komu.com/satellite/SatelliteRender/KOMU.com/ba8a4513-c0a8-2f11-0063-9bd94c70b769/a6a6f048-80ce-0971-01d4-c754d5f652e3

written documents ~or~ handwritten notes????   frustrating!  a written doc could be a text, could be something from the computer...a handwritten note would be exactly that.  "Came into possesion"....were they given to them by the person who wrote them?  were they passed along the tip line?  did investigators find them online?  Were they found when they served the search warrant?  Did the phone company turn over texts???

I guess it doesn't matter...

Inly question that I may know the answer to is they didn't serve the search warrant at the house until late Friday night/Sat Morning after Elizabeth's body had been found. TOMSMITH said they had to get a judge out of bed to sign it, according to some LE he had talked to. IIRC
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« Reply #82 on: October 30, 2009, 05:21:18 PM »

I can buy them wiping the knife off especially if AB lied about it> Maybe this was before they knew Elizabeth was missing. Then again, look at the lengths Cindy Anthony went to and still goes through to cover up for Casey. You just never know.

Seems like it would have been easy enough to just throw the knife in the dishwasher with the rest of the dirty dishes and just turn it on. Even a 15 yr old could have done that. JMO
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« Reply #83 on: October 30, 2009, 05:25:25 PM »

The GP's certainly boogied out of town FAST. They must've known for certain what went down and could've accidently or on purpose tampered with something they shouldn't have. I mean seriously? They just split! I can understand them wanting to get the little kids out of there but you'd think one of them would've stuck around for AB. The whole thing just smells.
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« Reply #84 on: October 30, 2009, 05:32:01 PM »

The GP's certainly boogied out of town FAST. They must've known for certain what went down and could've accidently or on purpose tampered with something they shouldn't have. I mean seriously? They just split! I can understand them wanting to get the little kids out of there but you'd think one of them would've stuck around for AB. The whole thing just smells.

That's the part that really bugs me too. I am not buy the "safe-Haven" bit. I am very afraid that some of the rest of the siblings know something about what happened, and they are keeping them from the authorities.  I was watching the interaction of AB and her brothers, and I can't help but feel there is something there. I would have at least thought the family would have made some kind of public statement. You are right, this whole thing stinks. And now it is the weekend, where everything shuts down, and it's gonna get stinkier, because there is nothing fueling this but rumors and bloggers who are not going to just sit back and wait for news to trickle out. I am sure there is just so much more to know. JMO
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« Reply #85 on: October 30, 2009, 05:37:57 PM »

You are right Fanny. I didn't even think that the siblings might've seen something or heard something. You'd think the Sheriff would have said you need to stick around or something. Especially since she is a minor. She still needs a guardian nearby despite the lawyer. For them to leave her like that is just way too weird. I wouldn't be surprised if their house gets vandalized this weekend and on top of it it's Halloween.
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« Reply #86 on: October 30, 2009, 05:45:41 PM »

Somewhere earlier someone posted a MS site of AB"bestfriend" . This same girl posted this...

December 14, 2008 - Sunday 
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That is all that is there!!! Elizabeth 2000-... What year is EO born 99 or 00.. Not sure but this is beyond scary!!!
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« Reply #87 on: October 30, 2009, 05:49:59 PM »

You are right Fanny. I didn't even think that the siblings might've seen something or heard something. You'd think the Sheriff would have said you need to stick around or something. Especially since she is a minor. She still needs a guardian nearby despite the lawyer. For them to leave her like that is just way too weird. I wouldn't be surprised if their house gets vandalized this weekend and on top of it it's Halloween.

Did they leave town? or Did they just go somewhere and nobody knows where? Maybe they are close enough to still be available for AB and/or LE, if not, IA something smells! I think it's very possible that the boys know something about what happened, even if only after the fact.
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« Reply #88 on: October 30, 2009, 06:01:22 PM »

I can buy them wiping the knife off especially if AB lied about it> Maybe this was before they knew Elizabeth was missing. Then again, look at the lengths Cindy Anthony went to and still goes through to cover up for Casey. You just never know.

They probably thought she had just gone out and killed another animal Rolling Eyes no biggie Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #89 on: October 30, 2009, 06:04:02 PM »

Somewhere earlier someone posted a MS site of AB"bestfriend" . This same girl posted this...

December 14, 2008 - Sunday 
 elizabeth 2000-. ....
Current mood:  drained
 
That is all that is there!!! Elizabeth 2000-... What year is EO born 99 or 00.. Not sure but this is beyond scary!!!


I noticed that last night, not sure what to think of it, but IA it is quite scary, I can't find Elizabeth DOB, so not sure on the year.

Her current mood is:
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« Reply #90 on: October 30, 2009, 06:15:02 PM »

The MS thing gets creepier.. It apparently was posted Dec 14 of 08. Elizabeths birthday is Dec 15 1999.. BUT possible someone AB's age(as in her best friend) would think the birthdya was 2000.  I do think this possible best friend though IS living on Wa., but recently moved there. MANY of her friends are from Wa.
 
 To me appear the "elizabeth 2000-..." was posted 1 day b4 EO 9th bday.
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« Reply #91 on: October 30, 2009, 06:15:03 PM »

Topix boards:

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/jefferson-city-mo/THC8D8OQQFKLEVVVI

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/jefferson-city-mo/TBBQ8FOIA33RG1FPV

supposed video the perp made w/ bros.
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« Reply #92 on: October 30, 2009, 06:17:34 PM »

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« Reply #93 on: October 30, 2009, 06:18:28 PM »

Sorry if that stuff has been posted....I can't possibly keep up.
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« Reply #94 on: October 30, 2009, 06:32:30 PM »

Need some opinions.  Is this a second youtube that she set up and friended her other one?


Profile  Name:AlyssaChannel Views:285Joined:May 20, 2007Last Sign In:1 year agoVideos Watched:180Subscribers:0About Me: I like shoes Country:United StatesHobbies:YOUR MOM.Music:AFI, Panic! at the Disco, Evanescnece, Linkin Park, FlyleafBooks:What my Mother Doesn't Know

Saia56 (1 year ago) heeellllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooooo hey!!! i miss talkin to my friend whats up!!! 
  Saia56 (2 years ago) lol alyssa i didnt know u had a youtube lolz 



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« Reply #95 on: October 30, 2009, 06:34:50 PM »

Somewhere earlier someone posted a MS site of AB"bestfriend" . This same girl posted this...

December 14, 2008 - Sunday  
 elizabeth 2000-. ....
Current mood:  drained
 
That is all that is there!!! Elizabeth 2000-... What year is EO born 99 or 00.. Not sure but this is beyond scary!!!


I noticed that last night, not sure what to think of it, but IA it is quite scary, I can't find Elizabeth DOB, so not sure on the year.

Her current mood is:
Last Login: 10/29/2009
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« Reply #96 on: October 30, 2009, 06:39:02 PM »

oooooooooo..........I just found the other thread re: suspect
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« Reply #97 on: October 30, 2009, 06:46:30 PM »

Need some opinions.  Is this a second youtube that she set up and friended her other one?


Profile  Name:AlyssaChannel Views:285Joined:May 20, 2007Last Sign In:1 year agoVideos Watched:180Subscribers:0About Me: I like shoes Country:United StatesHobbies:YOUR MOM.Music:AFI, Panic! at the Disco, Evanescnece, Linkin Park, FlyleafBooks:What my Mother Doesn't Know

Saia56 (1 year ago) heeellllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooooo hey!!! i miss talkin to my friend whats up!!! 
  Saia56 (2 years ago) lol alyssa i didnt know u had a youtube lolz 



http://www.youtube.com/user/omgxthesexshoesxrule#p/a/2/1whKQBcnLiQ

I wasn't able to pick her out, so I am wondering if she was doing the video. Is it just me, or do those boys look like her twin brothers?
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« Reply #98 on: October 30, 2009, 06:50:24 PM »

Need some opinions.  Is this a second youtube that she set up and friended her other one?


Profile  Name:AlyssaChannel Views:285Joined:May 20, 2007Last Sign In:1 year agoVideos Watched:180Subscribers:0About Me: I like shoes Country:United StatesHobbies:YOUR MOM.Music:AFI, Panic! at the Disco, Evanescnece, Linkin Park, FlyleafBooks:What my Mother Doesn't Know

Saia56 (1 year ago) heeellllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooooo hey!!! i miss talkin to my friend whats up!!! 
  Saia56 (2 years ago) lol alyssa i didnt know u had a youtube lolz 



http://www.youtube.com/user/omgxthesexshoesxrule#p/a/2/1whKQBcnLiQ

I wasn't able to pick her out, so I am wondering if she was doing the video. Is it just me, or do those boys look like her twin brothers?

I did not wait to say that out right, but that is exactly what I thought. That is her brother dancing.
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« Reply #99 on: October 30, 2009, 07:01:51 PM »

I guess I may not be in majority here, but for myself, I am tired of tippy-toeing around the suspect and her grandparents just because that is what the LE in JC have decided to do. There is  a lot of info out there. We already know all the juvenile siblings names, and even the parents and the grandparents names, and the mother and fathers name and track record. Records are being swept off the official records and it is just making me mad! There is some accountability here, and I don't think the authorities in Mo have the stomach  to do it. I think Alyssa lost her juvi status when she struck whatever first blow there was to kill an 9 yr old child. I am really angry about the way this is being handled. Elizabeth Orten didn't deserve this and he case should not be swept under the rug because someone somewhere has political pull.

I think I am through with my rant, but I am not sure. 
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