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« Reply #920 on: November 04, 2009, 07:32:09 PM »

Video from NG


At 3:15- Written Evidence
does this have anything to do with the Paper AB wrote - in regards to her Teacher Bill Currie.
NG says there were two documents within Discovery

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/KgUl4yknmCg&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/KgUl4yknmCg&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0</a>

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« Reply #921 on: November 04, 2009, 07:36:54 PM »

Hi Wyks, according to this page from Amazon [Japan] the book has only 56 pages??

http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.amazon.co.jp/Hot-Stuff-Broad-Street-Boys/dp/095116113X&ei=LxzyStD4Mov8sQOb8OQL&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CBUQ7gEwBQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhot%2Bstuff%2Band%2Bthe%2Bbroad%2Bstreet%2Bboys%2Bby%2Bbill%2Bcurrie%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG
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« Reply #922 on: November 04, 2009, 07:39:54 PM »

Recap of what has been said about Court and possible Charges for AB
From NG


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« Reply #923 on: November 04, 2009, 07:46:45 PM »


Thanks, Toler!  Guess he got to the plot quickly, huh? 

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« Reply #924 on: November 04, 2009, 07:47:24 PM »

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« Reply #925 on: November 04, 2009, 07:49:31 PM »


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« Reply #926 on: November 04, 2009, 07:50:20 PM »

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 Smooths MS when I just checked it.. Haven't some seen her online in the last today.

She was online today, I saw that she was. You don't have to login to MS to be actually on it. Kids do it by their Cell Phone. They have the know how and have the technology.
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« Reply #927 on: November 04, 2009, 07:54:46 PM »

Tell more Wyks, especially the book that was sold only in the UK 

Rosie, I don't know any more about the book, not yet anyway.  As to the rest, I'd better not say more yet about my thoughts.  Probably am in trouble as 'tis.  Course, I've been reading over at WS and IS, where folks regularly get their hands slapped, I duck when they duck.  lol  Am soooooooo glad that over here we don't get a smack down for every lil thing.  Just the big stuff, like jumping on the beds, and ermmm perhaps for giving out info that can't be/shouldn't be released.. yet.   

 

 

Well, if you go to the corner, I'll sit with you. Because you are only saying what has been put out on the internet anyway. Stringing all the rumors together is what we have to do when we don't have any real facts to talk about. I am only guessing at the subject of the book Currie wrote, but it seems like it would be pretty easy to track down. I haven't tried yet though.

If you think saying it out loud will get you in trouble, I think we have all found things that have a Latter Day Saints connection. I didn't know that Currie was Mormon, but may have realized it if I had looked closer. My next question, is Sheriff White, and Mr Funeral Director Mormon also? My hinky meter shot out the top when I heard the Sheriff was the last to speak to "his old friend" and that he passed on Elizabeth's funeral to attend memorial services for Currier.

So if this is where you were headed, I guess we will keep each other company.
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« Reply #928 on: November 04, 2009, 07:59:48 PM »

From Google links

Hot Stuff & the Broad Street Boys
http://books.google.com/books?id=4FFfPgAACAAJ&dq=inauthor:%22Bill+Currie%22&lr=&client=firefox-a

http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/315557668

http://www.worldcat.org/search?q=au%3A%22Currie%2C+Bill%2C%22&qt=hot_author
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« Reply #929 on: November 04, 2009, 08:05:46 PM »

http://isbndb.com/d/person/currie_bill/books.html
 Currie, Bill  1924-
(Bill Currie)
Bibliography of Currie, Bill, alphabetically ordered:
This is the alphabetically ordered list of all books of this author known to ISBNdb.com (the list may be incomplete). You can also see books grouped by subjects.
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Hot stuff! & the Broad Street boys
Bill Currie & friends
Publisher: Exeter : Oriel Press, 1988.
ISBN: 095116113X   Edition: (pbk.)
Tales out of school, or, Thirty years hard!
by Bill Currie with illustrations by GaryBates
Publisher: Exeter Oriel Press 1986
ISBN: 0951161105   
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It can't be the Same Bill Currie because this shows he started writing in 1924
I am sure the 1986, 88 were reprint dates.
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« Reply #930 on: November 04, 2009, 08:05:52 PM »


I guess it is safe to say "HOT STUFF & THE BROADWAY BOYS" didn't make the Book of the Month Club. 
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« Reply #931 on: November 04, 2009, 08:17:22 PM »

Hi Ms Fanny 

Me is wondering and literally scratching my head. Has there been any words that " anyone" was using a police scanner, amateur radio within the families and or neighborhood?

Being that there was so much criminal activity as it seems between the two families - and that maybe they would want to " protect" what they had ... just wondering if there was any mention of radios.

I believe I found one of EO's relatives online, he would be EO's Grandmothers Brother( she is deceased fathers side) Patricia A. Ellison. His name Johnney Johnson. Living in Tulsa OK.
He is a Bail Bondsman. Not totally positive but his photo rings with me that he resembles the Olten family. His age fits as well.
http://www.aokbail.com/agents.html

Just thought I would throw it out. Because he would have connections " If " this is a true family member.






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« Reply #932 on: November 04, 2009, 08:20:39 PM »

I know this has already been posted but to show the connection of Tulsa Ok.
Jan 8, 2003
Patricia Ann Ellison, 64, died Sunday.
She was born April 16, 1938, in Tulsa, Okla. A homemaker, she was a 10-year resident of Las Vegas.
She is survived by her sons, Everett Olten Jr., Ricky Olten, Richard Olten and Dale Olten; daughter, Vicki Olten; brothers, Johnney Johnson and Roy Johnson Jr.; 17 grandchildren; and eight great-grandchildren.
http://**/lvrj_home/2003/Jan-08-Wed-2003/news/20424020.html
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« Reply #933 on: November 04, 2009, 08:30:34 PM »

Good Evening Monkeys,
I have been trying to follow along as everyone posts. I have a few questions if anyone can answer.
1. On AB's myspace as of the last cache I was able to find she states in her comments. That she has had her "effin" phone taken away for two weeks ... cell phone. That was dated on Monday Oct 19 around 11pm. Then in 2nd breath she says I wonder if my GP's will let me have a party.

Am I correct that the date that EO  an angelic monkey was reported missing was that following Weds Oct 21st?

* Is it true? (best of our speculation) that AB did not have her cell phone during the time EO was reported missing - and even when EO she was found.

** Something doesn't add up with all of this. Because EO had her cell phone with her and it was found in the woods ( after she was Missing).

Could it be that AB took EO's cell phone without her knowing while she was playing with the younger sister?  And Used it as a ploy " bait" to get her back into the woods.. Possibly by making EO's phone ring? By using BF cell or even just using " E where is your cell phone?" when EO was attempting to leave towards home. Directing her back to the woods to look for it ??
Was EO's cell phone found near the area of her where she was found?
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2nd is because it has been bugging me. With the Aunt Vicki. Aunt of EO. She is quoted in Newspapers stating that EO was a rough Tomboy and loved to be outdoors etc...

I saw her on NG and she said the opposite. She said that EO was a GirlyGirl and loved frilly clothing and was All Girl, sweet and kind. Yet she would be able to be smart with her mouth say to her cousins ..when they were playing around. Meaning she could talk back.

I don't know why but that has bugged me from the time I read all the Tomboy comments from her Aunt. Because I recall her being interviewed on NG by phone and her saying the complete opposite of EO. Why it bothers me is a girl at of 9 is defined by her actions and personality. She is not yet a teen and not a baby.  Trying to get a scope on EO's personality because if she was a Girly Girl, prim, frilly she may have been used and manipulated out of AB's sick mind, and if she was the opposite a Tomboy I would think that EO would Fight Back and Not care the consequences.. say while she hung out at the AB household.

Something of EO sparked fascination I feel to AB. I know everyone has been saying that it was a thrill kill for AB and etc.. but I don't believe it. 
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3. Where is Elizabeth's Mother through out all of this? From what I gather her Father is in prison? 

Thank U to all that answer.


I will take a stab at answering what I can

1.  Yes, Elizabeth was reported missing at approx 7:00pm Wed Oct 21
2.  Vicki has contradicted herself on many occasions.  Early on when she gave statements to the media when Elizabeth was still missing the locals were really pizzed that she had gotten involved.  They had a bad taste form her sticking up for her brother Dale Sr i regards to Jasmine's disappearace from what I gather.  Then Vicki went quiet and someone from Missouri Missing ( not Peggy ) was the spokesperson for the family for a while.
3.  Patty Olten has been in the house.  She worked at a gas station nearby and many people brought food etc to her.  There was on local that left a note on one of the local news sites that they were having a fund raiser for Patty to help pay bills on Nov 15.  That commet got deleted. I am furious if it is true why the local papers could to at least cover that.
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« Reply #934 on: November 04, 2009, 08:33:31 PM »

Hmm John. C. Johnson Bail Bondsman for Jasmine Haslag

taken from http://www.myspace.com/findjasmine blog - Myspace -
Find Jasmine Haslag

snipped: Friday, November 30, 2007  Missing woman’s family raises reward to $10,000
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:kc7qSI2fZk0J:blogs.myspace.com/findjasmine+johnney+johnson:+Dale+Olten&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Florence said the John C. Johnson Bail Bonds company of Fulton, which issues Haslag's bond, is helping publicize the new reward.

The court has not, yet, ordered Johnson to forfeit his bond.

"I had the reward up to $4,000," Florence said. "He's helping me get it to $10,000 at this time.
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Could it be the same Guy ?? The Same within the Family Johnney Johnson? 
This case just keeps getting deeper and deeper .....
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« Reply #935 on: November 04, 2009, 08:34:02 PM »

Hi Ms Fanny 

Me is wondering and literally scratching my head. Has there been any words that " anyone" was using a police scanner, amateur radio within the families and or neighborhood?

Being that there was so much criminal activity as it seems between the two families - and that maybe they would want to " protect" what they had ... just wondering if there was any mention of radios.

I believe I found one of EO's relatives online, he would be EO's Grandmothers Brother( she is deceased fathers side) Patricia A. Ellison. His name Johnney Johnson. Living in Tulsa OK.
He is a Bail Bondsman. Not totally positive but his photo rings with me that he resembles the Olten family. His age fits as well.
http://www.aokbail.com/agents.html

Just thought I would throw it out. Because he would have connections " If " this is a true family member.








Not Fanny, but I do not recall any mentin about scanners or HAM radio etc.  I went to check for a Police scanner early on ad they do not have it on line yet like some parts of Florida do. 
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« Reply #936 on: November 04, 2009, 08:36:14 PM »

Hmm John. C. Johnson Bail Bondsman for Jasmine Haslag

taken from http://www.myspace.com/findjasmine blog - Myspace -
Find Jasmine Haslag

snipped: Friday, November 30, 2007  Missing woman’s family raises reward to $10,000
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:kc7qSI2fZk0J:blogs.myspace.com/findjasmine+johnney+johnson:+Dale+Olten&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Florence said the John C. Johnson Bail Bonds company of Fulton, which issues Haslag's bond, is helping publicize the new reward.

The court has not, yet, ordered Johnson to forfeit his bond.

"I had the reward up to $4,000," Florence said. "He's helping me get it to $10,000 at this time.
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Could it be the same Guy ?? The Same within the Family Johnney Johnson? 
This case just keeps getting deeper and deeper .....

Very well could be as Dale Sr was with Jasmine when they both got busted.  JJ could have bonded them both out.
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« Reply #937 on: November 04, 2009, 08:37:14 PM »

 an angelic monkey Northern,

I am still stuck on the Cell phone of EO. I think it was part of her demise. That she was tricked or something and that the Cell phone was the key to her being lured back into the woods. I don't know its my gut feeling.

Bec as you just stated MOM does not have a lot of resources $$ and if EO came home without her Cell she I would think would be in big trouble. This is mind boggle.

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« Reply #938 on: November 04, 2009, 08:38:31 PM »

Hi Ms Fanny 

Me is wondering and literally scratching my head. Has there been any words that " anyone" was using a police scanner, amateur radio within the families and or neighborhood?

Being that there was so much criminal activity as it seems between the two families - and that maybe they would want to " protect" what they had ... just wondering if there was any mention of radios.

I believe I found one of EO's relatives online, he would be EO's Grandmothers Brother( she is deceased fathers side) Patricia A. Ellison. His name Johnney Johnson. Living in Tulsa OK.
He is a Bail Bondsman. Not totally positive but his photo rings with me that he resembles the Olten family. His age fits as well.
http://www.aokbail.com/agents.html

Just thought I would throw it out. Because he would have connections " If " this is a true family member.








Hi DEENIE. I have no idea about the families using scanners or amateur radios?? I don't exactly see where you are going with this. Do you mean between EO's family and AB's families as far a criminal activity?

The obit you posted does seem that he could be a relative. Interesting. 
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« Reply #939 on: November 04, 2009, 08:40:54 PM »

Wyks you have good theories!  I have wondered if a lot of the local media compliance with letting the case stay out of the local media has to do with the connection in the church.  I really hope this is not the case. 
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