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Topic: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 - 11/18/09 (Read 610206 times)
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Fanny Mae
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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KOMU TV in Jefferson city, MO
http://www.komu.com//satellite/SatelliteRender/KOMU.com/61f5f746-80ce-0971-019d-8500acdc7d96
Owned by the University of Missouri
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KOMU-TV
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Quote from: darla on October 30, 2009, 09:56:12 PM
Quote from: Fanny Mae on October 30, 2009, 09:51:11 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on October 30, 2009, 09:45:56 PM
Quote from: Fanny Mae on October 30, 2009, 09:29:12 PM
I am back. I was cruising over what we were talking about last night, and I found this very interesting.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/jefferson-city-mo/TFSQHR7T6M9A3GI3E
The funeral home man Fanny? I am so
TIA JSM
Pretty white carriage and pretty white horse doesn't look so pretty anymore, does it?
Good Evening Monkeys and guest!
I am so confused. This man was accused of something and the charges dropped...what does that have to do with the white carriage and horses?
Go back and read last night's post. Then you will understand.
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Jesus loves the little children, all the children in the world.
Red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight. Jesus loves the little children of the world.
Words: C. Herbert Woolston (1856-1927) Music: George F. Root (1820-1895)
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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October 30, 2009, 10:00:53 PM »
District Attorney, Cole County Missouri
http://www.colecopa.com/
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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October 30, 2009, 10:01:55 PM »
Quote from: Fanny Mae on October 30, 2009, 09:59:10 PM
Quote from: darla on October 30, 2009, 09:56:12 PM
Quote from: Fanny Mae on October 30, 2009, 09:51:11 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on October 30, 2009, 09:45:56 PM
Quote from: Fanny Mae on October 30, 2009, 09:29:12 PM
I am back. I was cruising over what we were talking about last night, and I found this very interesting.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/jefferson-city-mo/TFSQHR7T6M9A3GI3E
The funeral home man Fanny? I am so
TIA JSM
Pretty white carriage and pretty white horse doesn't look so pretty anymore, does it?
Good Evening Monkeys and guest!
I am so confused. This man was accused of something and the charges dropped...what does that have to do with the white carriage and horses?
Go back and read last night's post. Then you will understand.
I did read last nights post...I just don't understand what this has to do with Elizabeth.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Quote from: Txsflame on October 30, 2009, 09:21:55 PM
Does anyone else think it strange AB's "best friend" posted in Dec 08 a blog titled "Elizabeth 2000-...." This is really bugging me..
Does anyone know if it is possible to change the date on a blog on MYspace, maybe it is some sick kid messing around.
Yes, it bugs me. It actually creeped me out so bad that my stomach kinda did a roll. Especially the part about Mood-drained. I am really hoping that it just some sick prank and not have been there BEFORE she was killed. That would be even more heinous if THAT'S even possible than what's already been going on.
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Cops say Stephen Spina, 36, was found stabbed to death in his apartment in Mamaroneck, New York on September 17, 2007. Killer is still at large.
http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=57396
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Reply #145 on:
October 30, 2009, 10:01:56 PM »
Quote from: Fanny Mae on October 30, 2009, 09:51:11 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on October 30, 2009, 09:45:56 PM
Quote from: Fanny Mae on October 30, 2009, 09:29:12 PM
I am back. I was cruising over what we were talking about last night, and I found this very interesting.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/jefferson-city-mo/TFSQHR7T6M9A3GI3E
The funeral home man Fanny? I am so
TIA JSM
Pretty white carriage and pretty white horse doesn't look so pretty anymore, does it?
What a quaint little town they have there.... and people said Satsuma reminded them of what? I think we are beginning to see some of the secrets that town is hiding. Sick Sick Sick.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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October 30, 2009, 10:02:56 PM »
Quote from: espresso on October 30, 2009, 10:01:55 PM
Quote from: Txsflame on October 30, 2009, 09:21:55 PM
Does anyone else think it strange AB's "best friend" posted in Dec 08 a blog titled "Elizabeth 2000-...." This is really bugging me..
Does anyone know if it is possible to change the date on a blog on MYspace, maybe it is some sick kid messing around.
Yes, it bugs me. It actually creeped me out so bad that my stomach kinda did a roll. Especially the part about Mood-drained. I am really hoping that it just some sick prank and not have been there BEFORE she was killed. That would be even more heinous if THAT'S even possible than what's already been going on.
what MS was this on please?
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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October 30, 2009, 10:03:57 PM »
Good Evening Monkeys,
Wow I finally was able to catch up and read all the posts. This case is just " off the Brain" ..This poor little girl Elizabeth at the demise of a twisted teenage girl .... makes my heart hurt and my brain snap. And I am sure that the teens in the local area "tonight" on devils night are tripping out. All the rumors and all the connections of this girl to who and whom.
I was trying to dig off her usernames ( AB) and I don't know if anyone came across this. I am not 100 percent sure, this maybe her or not.. But the similarities in info and mindset lead to the same personality. I wish I knew the meaning of the name Okamikage. Says on the profile that it is of a 15 yr old boy. The poetry written under the user name seems to be a girl... Is their a name Branden linked to AB? kids today say they are 27 living in Hawaii and yet are 12 in Dallas ...so I just thought I would throw this out..there.
http://allpoetry.com/okamikage
Profile:
snipped
my names wolf (not realy but thats what my account name means)
my favorite bands are AFI, mychemical romance, and santana.
my free time is spent drawing, writing in my book, skateboarding and spending time with my dad.
my lifes goal is to become a famous author, or a vet.
im a full blood hunter, no matter what my sister says.
my signature is crazy enough to kill smart enough to get away with it.
*** And if this is no link to her what the H#ll is wrong with kids today? why are they so obsessed with Death and Killing.
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This video from one of her friends on YT which I think they are from the same town. Saia56.
Has a comment under the video from AB. About killing Jenny who I think is the Jenny on the karaoke site. Singsnap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjmzFAzZAgQ
Singsnap:
http://www.singsnap.com/snap/watchAndListen/play/b812b963c
the comment by J under her song, her photo and is a member of singsnap .. I think is the J who Saia56 is talking about killing. Who is Applegirl - Applegirl is J.
One other YT account under AB:
http://www.youtube.com/user/omgxthesexshoesxrule
Where Saia and Apple are listed as friends.
** I looked at AB's photo on singsnap for over 5 mins as I attempted to listen to her music, which I could not. But for the love of God ... when went to click off the site, it hit me for the first time her Eyes were open. The entire time I was looking at her photo, I thought her eyes were shut and she had a ton of eye makeup on. Freaked me out. Was if she opened her eyes and they looked right through me.
So disturbing all of it.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Looks like Cole County doesn't want much know about them.
http://www.colecounty.org/
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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October 30, 2009, 10:10:02 PM »
Quote from: darla on October 30, 2009, 10:01:55 PM
Quote from: Fanny Mae on October 30, 2009, 09:59:10 PM
Quote from: darla on October 30, 2009, 09:56:12 PM
Quote from: Fanny Mae on October 30, 2009, 09:51:11 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on October 30, 2009, 09:45:56 PM
Quote from: Fanny Mae on October 30, 2009, 09:29:12 PM
I am back. I was cruising over what we were talking about last night, and I found this very interesting.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/jefferson-city-mo/TFSQHR7T6M9A3GI3E
The funeral home man Fanny? I am so
TIA JSM
Pretty white carriage and pretty white horse doesn't look so pretty anymore, does it?
Good Evening Monkeys and guest!
I am so confused. This man was accused of something and the charges dropped...what does that have to do with the white carriage and horses?
Go back and read last night's post. Then you will understand.
I did read last nights post...I just don't understand what this has to do with Elizabeth.
It goes to the facts of a long time covering up of things going on in Jefferson City. This man was spokesman for the meda to cover the funeral and it was his white carriage that Elizabeth was taken to her grave in. That's all.
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Jesus loves the little children, all the children in the world.
Red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight. Jesus loves the little children of the world.
Words: C. Herbert Woolston (1856-1927) Music: George F. Root (1820-1895)
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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October 30, 2009, 10:11:25 PM »
Quote from: Searching on October 30, 2009, 10:02:56 PM
Quote from: espresso on October 30, 2009, 10:01:55 PM
Quote from: Txsflame on October 30, 2009, 09:21:55 PM
Does anyone else think it strange AB's "best friend" posted in Dec 08 a blog titled "Elizabeth 2000-...." This is really bugging me..
Does anyone know if it is possible to change the date on a blog on MYspace, maybe it is some sick kid messing around.
Yes, it bugs me. It actually creeped me out so bad that my stomach kinda did a roll. Especially the part about Mood-drained. I am really hoping that it just some sick prank and not have been there BEFORE she was killed. That would be even more heinous if THAT'S even possible than what's already been going on.
what MS was this on please?
http://www.myspace.com/totallyavalleygirl
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Quote from: Txsflame on October 30, 2009, 05:45:41 PM
Somewhere earlier someone posted a MS site of AB"bestfriend" . This same girl posted this...
December 14, 2008 - Sunday
elizabeth 2000-. ....
Current mood: drained
That is all that is there!!! Elizabeth 2000-... What year is EO born 99 or 00.. Not sure but this is beyond scary!!!
Quote from: Searching on October 30, 2009, 10:02:56 PM
Quote from: espresso on October 30, 2009, 10:01:55 PM
Quote from: Txsflame on October 30, 2009, 09:21:55 PM
Does anyone else think it strange AB's "best friend" posted in Dec 08 a blog titled "Elizabeth 2000-...." This is really bugging me..
Does anyone know if it is possible to change the date on a blog on MYspace, maybe it is some sick kid messing around.
Yes, it bugs me. It actually creeped me out so bad that my stomach kinda did a roll. Especially the part about Mood-drained. I am really hoping that it just some sick prank and not have been there BEFORE she was killed. That would be even more heinous if THAT'S even possible than what's already been going on.
what MS was this on please?
I don't know. I just read what Txsflame had said they found so I quoted it at the top so you can see the exact wording. But it did give me the creeps.
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Cops say Stephen Spina, 36, was found stabbed to death in his apartment in Mamaroneck, New York on September 17, 2007. Killer is still at large.
http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=57396
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Reply #152 on:
October 30, 2009, 10:19:54 PM »
Quote from: Deenie on October 30, 2009, 10:03:57 PM
Good Evening Monkeys,
Wow I finally was able to catch up and read all the posts. This case is just " off the Brain" ..This poor little girl Elizabeth at the demise of a twisted teenage girl .... makes my heart hurt and my brain snap. And I am sure that the teens in the local area "tonight" on devils night are tripping out. All the rumors and all the connections of this girl to who and whom.
I was trying to dig off her usernames ( AB) and I don't know if anyone came across this. I am not 100 percent sure, this maybe her or not.. But the similarities in info and mindset lead to the same personality. I wish I knew the meaning of the name Okamikage. Says on the profile that it is of a 15 yr old boy. The poetry written under the user name seems to be a girl... Is their a name Branden linked to AB? kids today say they are 27 living in Hawaii and yet are 12 in Dallas ...so I just thought I would throw this out..there.
http://allpoetry.com/okamikage
Profile:
snipped
my names wolf (not realy but thats what my account name means)
my favorite bands are AFI, mychemical romance, and santana.
my free time is spent drawing, writing in my book, skateboarding and spending time with my dad.
my lifes goal is to become a famous author, or a vet.
im a full blood hunter, no matter what my sister says.
my signature is crazy enough to kill smart enough to get away with it.
*** And if this is no link to her what the H#ll is wrong with kids today? why are they so obsessed with Death and Killing.
--------
This video from one of her friends on YT which I think they are from the same town. Saia56.
Has a comment under the video from AB. About killing Jenny who I think is the Jenny on the karaoke site. Singsnap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjmzFAzZAgQ
Singsnap:
http://www.singsnap.com/snap/watchAndListen/play/b812b963c
the comment by J under her song, her photo and is a member of singsnap .. I think is the J who Saia56 is talking about killing. Who is Applegirl - Applegirl is J.
One other YT account under AB:
http://www.youtube.com/user/omgxthesexshoesxrule
Where Saia and Apple are listed as friends.
** I looked at AB's photo on singsnap for over 5 mins as I attempted to listen to her music, which I could not. But for the love of God ... when went to click off the site, it hit me for the first time her Eyes were open. The entire time I was looking at her photo, I thought her eyes were shut and she had a ton of eye makeup on. Freaked me out. Was if she opened her eyes and they looked right through me.
So disturbing all of it.
DEENIE,
I am so glad to see you. I thought you had left us!
I couldn't open the last YouTube. I think that's our girl and her friends. Where In God's name were her caretakers??? Most of the stuff we are finding is in 2007. No tell how bad it had gotten by 2009!
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Jesus loves the little children, all the children in the world.
Red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight. Jesus loves the little children of the world.
Words: C. Herbert Woolston (1856-1927) Music: George F. Root (1820-1895)
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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October 30, 2009, 10:25:48 PM »
FWIW I just tried to make a blog post on myspace, and you can change the date after you post a comment.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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For the sake of saying. I totally believe that a 15 yr old is capable of premeditated murder on some younger than them. Because it happened in my neighborhood. Was Halloween weekend 1981.
Ronnie Moore was 15, I went to school with him since 4th grade. He brutally raped, murdered a 12 yr girl who lived down the road from his house. It was on Devil's night Friday Night Oct 30, 1981. First off he knew her and she knew him. He knew her Mother and her habits, both work and at home. She was a divorced single mom and had a tendency to use sleeping pills and or alcohol to put herself to bed. ( she was not a bad person, not my intent, just what was). The point is he knew it. Was after Midnight, He cut all the electricity from the outside and cut all phone lines ..and he got in the house. And Mom was passed out cold and didnt hear a thing. He brutally beat, raped and then killed this girl and left her in the back yard naked. And he went home. Reminding You all he was 15. I know I have posted this before. And Yes he was a child from a broken home, a home of drug addicted criminal parents that should not have been able to be in society.
They canceled Halloween in all the remote neighborhoods. The LE had no clue what to think. Monday he went to school as any other day - yet he had a tremendous amount of claws marks and scratches from his forehead past his shirt line...... and LE was notified. He had quite a record in school so he was easy to see by anyone. He was a bully to many, he was always nice to me.. I had no idea why, but I am thankful. He was arrested I believe by Tuesday because he buried the clothes he wore in his own backyard.
This is him today: LIFE in Prison No Parole Murder 1st Degree. We do not have the Death Penalty in Michigan.
http://www.state.mi.us/mdoc/asp/otis2profile.asp?mdocNumber=170722
Anything is possible and most probable when the 15 yr old has nothing to lose.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Reply #155 on:
October 30, 2009, 10:26:50 PM »
Quote from: Searching on October 30, 2009, 10:01:56 PM
Quote from: Fanny Mae on October 30, 2009, 09:51:11 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on October 30, 2009, 09:45:56 PM
Quote from: Fanny Mae on October 30, 2009, 09:29:12 PM
I am back. I was cruising over what we were talking about last night, and I found this very interesting.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/jefferson-city-mo/TFSQHR7T6M9A3GI3E
The funeral home man Fanny? I am so
TIA JSM
Pretty white carriage and pretty white horse doesn't look so pretty anymore, does it?
What a quaint little town they have there.... and people said Satsuma reminded them of what? I think we are beginning to see some of the secrets that town is hiding. Sick Sick Sick.
I'm sure there is lots more
SEARCHING.
I'm digging as hard as I can. TOMSMITH99, can you give me a hand here?
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Red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight. Jesus loves the little children of the world.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Reply #156 on:
October 30, 2009, 10:28:21 PM »
Quote from: Maven on October 30, 2009, 10:11:25 PM
Quote from: Searching on October 30, 2009, 10:02:56 PM
Quote from: espresso on October 30, 2009, 10:01:55 PM
Quote from: Txsflame on October 30, 2009, 09:21:55 PM
Does anyone else think it strange AB's "best friend" posted in Dec 08 a blog titled "Elizabeth 2000-...." This is really bugging me..
Does anyone know if it is possible to change the date on a blog on MYspace, maybe it is some sick kid messing around.
Yes, it bugs me. It actually creeped me out so bad that my stomach kinda did a roll. Especially the part about Mood-drained. I am really hoping that it just some sick prank and not have been there BEFORE she was killed. That would be even more heinous if THAT'S even possible than what's already been going on.
what MS was this on please?
http://www.myspace.com/totallyavalleygirl
Thank you Maven
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Reply #157 on:
October 30, 2009, 10:28:53 PM »
Quote from: Fanny Mae on October 30, 2009, 10:10:02 PM
Quote from: darla on October 30, 2009, 10:01:55 PM
Quote from: Fanny Mae on October 30, 2009, 09:59:10 PM
Quote from: darla on October 30, 2009, 09:56:12 PM
Quote from: Fanny Mae on October 30, 2009, 09:51:11 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on October 30, 2009, 09:45:56 PM
Quote from: Fanny Mae on October 30, 2009, 09:29:12 PM
I am back. I was cruising over what we were talking about last night, and I found this very interesting.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/jefferson-city-mo/TFSQHR7T6M9A3GI3E
The funeral home man Fanny? I am so
TIA JSM
Pretty white carriage and pretty white horse doesn't look so pretty anymore, does it?
Good Evening Monkeys and guest!
I am so confused. This man was accused of something and the charges dropped...what does that have to do with the white carriage and horses?
Go back and read last night's post. Then you will understand.
I did read last nights post...I just don't understand what this has to do with Elizabeth.
It goes to the facts of a long time covering up of things going on in Jefferson City. This man was spokesman for the meda to cover the funeral and it was his white carriage that Elizabeth was taken to her grave in. That's all.
The point I was trying to get across is that what this man was accused of had nothing to do with the looks of the carriage and horses. I have to respect LE and the news media for not covering the funeral. I personally would not want a camera in my face if I was mourning the loss of a loved one. A funeral is personal and not something that should be splattered across a tv screen and especially that of a small child. That is my opinion. I understand LE not discussing the particulars of Elizabeth's murder. One wrong move or slip of the tongue could jeopardize the entire case especially where a juvenile is concerned. I feel sure this is not something that can be swept under the rug no matter how hard they try. All just my opinion.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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October 30, 2009, 10:29:30 PM »
Quote from: darla on October 30, 2009, 10:01:55 PM
Good Evening Monkeys and guest!
I am so confused. This man was accused of something and the charges dropped...what does that have to do with the white carriage and horses?
I did read last nights post...I just don't understand what this has to do with Elizabeth.
Darla, last night we were discussing that Jefferson City has a history of covering things up, things that are just flat out wrong. The press and local officials don't want bad things to happen in their little city. I am sick and tired of it, and pointed out some examples: The person that owns the funeral home, and provided for Elizabeth's service, was arrested for a sex act on a teen boy a few years ago. He was arrested, but within a few weeks was free and clear. People in town hate it when someone talks bad about him, basically telling the truth. To me this is just wrong, he throws money around town, helping the local churches, high school sports, etc. etc. I would just hate for Elizabeth's family to get treated like all the other victoms of these crimes, they deserve more than that.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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October 30, 2009, 10:31:06 PM »
Quote from: Deenie on October 30, 2009, 10:25:55 PM
For the sake of saying. I totally believe that a 15 yr old is capable of premeditated murder on some younger than them. Because it happened in my neighborhood. Was Halloween weekend 1981.
Ronnie Moore was 15, I went to school with him since 4th grade. He brutally raped, murdered a 12 yr girl who lived down the road from his house. It was on Devil's night Friday Night Oct 30, 1981. First off he knew her and she knew him. He knew her Mother and her habits, both work and at home. She was a divorced single mom and had a tendency to use sleeping pills and or alcohol to put herself to bed. ( she was not a bad person, not my intent, just what was). The point is he knew it. Was after Midnight, He cut all the electricity from the outside and cut all phone lines ..and he got in the house. And Mom was passed out cold and didnt hear a thing. He brutally beat, raped and then killed this girl and left her in the back yard naked. And he went home. Reminding You all he was 15. I know I have posted this before. And Yes he was a child from a broken home, a home of drug addicted criminal parents that should not have been able to be in society.
They canceled Halloween in all the remote neighborhoods. The LE had no clue what to think. Monday he went to school as any other day - yet he had a tremendous amount of claws marks and scratches from his forehead past his shirt line...... and LE was notified. He had quite a record in school so he was easy to see by anyone. He was a bully to many, he was always nice to me.. I had no idea why, but I am thankful. He was arrested I believe by Tuesday because he buried the clothes he wore in his own backyard.
This is him today: LIFE in Prison No Parole Murder 1st Degree. We do not have the Death Penalty in Michigan.
http://www.state.mi.us/mdoc/asp/otis2profile.asp?mdocNumber=170722
Anything is possible and most probable when the 15 yr old has nothing to lose.
Was it a big hoo-ha back then that he was a juvenile, or did everyone know right away? I'm assuming he was charged as an adult.
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