Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 - 11/18/09

[Fanny Mae]

Yes, Ilovecookies has registered and is posting at Websleuths now.

We used to have a poster who was banned here that always ended their post with "that is all!"

[Fanny Mae]

I can confirm that KN did marry RP and is now going as K N-P.  RP graduated Jefferson high and is one year older than KN.  ILC is stating that he is a friend of RP who he stated yesterday lived in the house.  Unless it was a very short arrangement, RP had his own place up to the wedding.  IMO ILC is playing the telephone game and stating what he hears from RP who hears it from K N-P who hears it from KB as first hand.  Hope that made sense.

O/T UGHHH more frekain initials do you all know HOW long it took me to figure a=out all the otehr initials.lol j/k...  Can u answer 1 ? for me..is RP named in KNP blog that we discovered last night??

Sorry, but I feel your frustration.

[New Monkey]

I think that Elizabeth thing was written before this ever happened with EO.  Like a year earlier. 

 The initial part of that blog( the title elizabeth 2000-...) was written the day before Elizabeths 9th birthday(Dec 2008). The story part of the blog showed up sometime EARLY Monday morning.(Nov 2,2009) just fyi..

God in heaven.  Are you sure?  That is awful!  OMG.  Was this on CR's myspace page?  I didn't see the actual blog, just the Elizabeth 2000-

[Fanny Mae]

I think that Elizabeth thing was written before this ever happened with EO.  Like a year earlier. 

 The initial part of that blog( the title elizabeth 2000-...) was written the day before Elizabeths 9th birthday(Dec 2008). The story part of the blog showed up sometime EARLY Monday morning.(Nov 2,2009) just fyi..

God in heaven.  Are you sure?  That is awful!  OMG.  Was this on CR's myspace page?  I didn't see the actual blog, just the Elizabeth 2000-

Several posters were monitoring her MS site and saw when it changed.

[Northern Rose]

RP is the one that KN refers to in her blog about how AB thinks everything in the house belongs to her. 

[MyView]

Ooops!  ILC slips up!

No.

LE wanted to talk to alyssa on thursday, but she couldn't be found, and a school counselor found her outside the school with her bf. Thats when LE suspected something. Then that night the grandparents allowed them in to search and the LE took ALyssa's diary and before they read it they asked to speak with her at 10 on friday morning.

~From WS

  I'm sure it's edited out now. 

Nope, not edited yet and many have quoted his post. He must have gotten frustrated and logged off when many told him to edit his post 

[Fanny Mae]

RP is the one that KN refers to in her blog about how AB thinks everything in the house belongs to her. 

Could KN be the girl jumping on the diving board during the YouTube at the pool?

[New Monkey]

RP is the one that KN refers to in her blog about how AB thinks everything in the house belongs to her. 

Shoot!  I missed that!  Is it here somewhere?

[shelby]

What is the matter with this LE, A 9 year old girl disappears walking home from a friends house, 4 houses down the road, shes afraid of the dark and afraid of the woods, there no reason to suspect a runaway, and they treat it as a no foul play issue. Then they stop a search for her because it’s getting dark, when the searchers wanted to continue. Then the bring in dogs that obtusely cant hunt, turn away people that want to help, don't involve the FBI or other highly trained personnel. Looks like both the police and the dogs were useless and don't hunt.

I'm looking at it from a distance, but from what we have heard, this looks like what happened to me.   

But, if she was buried, wouldn't this effect the dog's ability to find her? At that point, they dogs were tracking her
scent-I would assume.
There are TWO types of search dogs-Tracking Dogs, which start at the last point the person
was seen, and follow the trail-and Air Scent Dogs-they are the dogs who search with their nose in the air to look for bodies of people buried, either underground or in a building collapse, for example.

[Northern Rose]

I can confirm that KN did marry RP and is now going as K N-P.  RP graduated Jefferson high and is one year older than KN.  ILC is stating that he is a friend of RP who he stated yesterday lived in the house.  Unless it was a very short arrangement, RP had his own place up to the wedding.  IMO ILC is playing the telephone game and stating what he hears from RP who hears it from K N-P who hears it from KB as first hand.  Hope that made sense.

O/T UGHHH more frekain initials do you all know HOW long it took me to figure a=out all the otehr initials.lol j/k...  Can u answer 1 ? for me..is RP named in KNP blog that we discovered last night??

Sorry, but I feel your frustration.

you have nanners with the decoder ring

[Maven]

I think that Elizabeth thing was written before this ever happened with EO.  Like a year earlier. 

 The initial part of that blog( the title elizabeth 2000-...) was written the day before Elizabeths 9th birthday(Dec 2008). The story part of the blog showed up sometime EARLY Monday morning.(Nov 2,2009) just fyi..

God in heaven.  Are you sure?  That is awful!  OMG.  Was this on CR's myspace page?  I didn't see the actual blog, just the Elizabeth 2000-

Yep, this is what it looked like originally:



she added the story part after a comment was posted.

[New Monkey]

I think that Elizabeth thing was written before this ever happened with EO.  Like a year earlier. 

 The initial part of that blog( the title elizabeth 2000-...) was written the day before Elizabeths 9th birthday(Dec 2008). The story part of the blog showed up sometime EARLY Monday morning.(Nov 2,2009) just fyi..

God in heaven.  Are you sure?  That is awful!  OMG.  Was this on CR's myspace page?  I didn't see the actual blog, just the Elizabeth 2000-

Several posters were monitoring her MS site and saw when it changed.

That really leads me to believe that CR was in on this whole thing.

[Northern Rose]

RP is the one that KN refers to in her blog about how AB thinks everything in the house belongs to her. 

Shoot!  I missed that!  Is it here somewhere?

I put the link in suspects link thread last night

[Northern Rose]

What is the matter with this LE, A 9 year old girl disappears walking home from a friends house, 4 houses down the road, shes afraid of the dark and afraid of the woods, there no reason to suspect a runaway, and they treat it as a no foul play issue. Then they stop a search for her because it’s getting dark, when the searchers wanted to continue. Then the bring in dogs that obtusely cant hunt, turn away people that want to help, don't involve the FBI or other highly trained personnel. Looks like both the police and the dogs were useless and don't hunt.

I'm looking at it from a distance, but from what we have heard, this looks like what happened to me.   

But, if she was buried, wouldn't this effect the dog's ability to find her? At that point, they dogs were tracking her
scent-I would assume.
There are TWO types of search dogs-Tracking Dogs, which start at the last point the person
was seen, and follow the trail-and Air Scent Dogs-they are the dogs who search with their nose in the air to look for bodies of people buried, either underground or in a building collapse, for example.

There were both blood hounds as well as cadaver dogs out on Thursday per news articles.

[Txsflame]

I think that Elizabeth thing was written before this ever happened with EO.  Like a year earlier. 

 The initial part of that blog( the title elizabeth 2000-...) was written the day before Elizabeths 9th birthday(Dec 2008). The story part of the blog showed up sometime EARLY Monday morning.(Nov 2,2009) just fyi..

God in heaven.  Are you sure?  That is awful!  OMG.  Was this on CR's myspace page?  I didn't see the actual blog, just the Elizabeth 2000-

Yes we are sure

[Txsflame]

RP is the one that KN refers to in her blog about how AB thinks everything in the house belongs to her. 

Could KN be the girl jumping on the diving board during the YouTube at the pool?

The end of that video identify the girl on diving board as Julia, I read somewhere Julie was a friend of AB.. so doesnt look like that was KNP....

[shelby]

What is the matter with this LE, A 9 year old girl disappears walking home from a friends house, 4 houses down the road, shes afraid of the dark and afraid of the woods, there no reason to suspect a runaway, and they treat it as a no foul play issue. Then they stop a search for her because it’s getting dark, when the searchers wanted to continue. Then the bring in dogs that obtusely cant hunt, turn away people that want to help, don't involve the FBI or other highly trained personnel. Looks like both the police and the dogs were useless and don't hunt.

I agree with you, certainly did not appear to have been handled very well. I mentioned before, and I really hate saying this, but I think because of the family that Elizabeth came from, dad and brother in jail, LE didn't work as hard as they would have if the child who was missing came from a better home, imo. I sure hope that wasn't the case 

I really don't think that it mattered what type of home she was from-she was a 9 year old child-police don't care
what type of home the child is from, I really can't believe that had anything to do with it. That night they issued an 'Endangered Person Advisory' and searched the woods and used a helicopter equipped with Thermal Imaging Radar,
and had at least 60 people searching by the next morning. I have nothing to do with LE, but I do know some (not in that area) and just can't imagine them thinking 'oh she's from a bad home, take your time'
Also, everyone keeps asking why there was no Amber Alert-it did not meet the requirements set by MO law. I don't
think the Chief of police would have been able to get one issued with the info they had.

[New Monkey]

RP is the one that KN refers to in her blog about how AB thinks everything in the house belongs to her. 

Shoot!  I missed that!  Is it here somewhere?

I put the link in suspects link thread last night

I feel like a dufus, but I don't see KN talking about AB. I see her rambling about other things. . .  How do I see that part?

[Fanny Mae]

RP is the one that KN refers to in her blog about how AB thinks everything in the house belongs to her. 

Shoot!  I missed that!  Is it here somewhere?

I put the link in suspects link thread last night

Nanners back.

[higherhopes]

I can confirm that KN did marry RP and is now going as K N-P.  RP graduated Jefferson high and is one year older than KN.  ILC is stating that he is a friend of RP who he stated yesterday lived in the house.  Unless it was a very short arrangement, RP had his own place up to the wedding.  IMO ILC is playing the telephone game and stating what he hears from RP who hears it from K N-P who hears it from KB as first hand.  Hope that made sense.

O/T UGHHH more frekain initials do you all know HOW long it took me to figure a=out all the otehr initials.lol j/k...  Can u answer 1 ? for me..is RP named in KNP blog that we discovered last night??

Sorry, but I feel your frustration.

you have nanners with the decoder ring