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Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
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Topic: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 - 11/18/09 (Read 618103 times)
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 06, 2009, 03:07:49 PM »
Quote from: Kenda on November 06, 2009, 02:47:32 PM
How could they take everything that ILC said as gospel, why wouldn't they check out the facts before jumping on his bandwagon as if he was the AB know it all, know everything guru. I went over to that site read all the posts and he kept changing his posts almost daily. They would ooh and awe over anything that spuied from his mouth.
Well.. IMO, cuz Tricia, the owner of WS, "verified" his identity. Heh.
They do this with nearly every case. Some of us have seen this kind of thing happening for years. I feel so badly for innocent locals and family members in a case who somehow manage to end up over there. Cuz many are legit and only trying to help, but end up being hurt. We've also seen folks who have inserted themselves into a case, joining forums everywhere, and running back and forth saying one thing here, and another there. For those who pay attention, it can really be an eyeopener. This particular poster, am just surprised he lasted as long as he did over there.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 06, 2009, 03:12:44 PM »
Quote from: espresso on November 06, 2009, 02:50:25 PM
Where and when did the initials "DN" first come up? Has anyone crossreferenced AB's facebook friends to see which one's have Nancy Grace friended? Maybe there's a way to narrow it down.
Good question, espresso! I haven't a clue where we first read those initials. Kind of took on a life of it's own. And good idea on the crossreferencing. There are a couple of monkeys digging into that kind of info, maybe when one or more of em come in, they'll be able to answer this. Might want to bump your post later on, or ask again later, so they'll be sure to see your questions? Some don't read back.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 06, 2009, 03:19:00 PM »
Quote from: Wyks on November 06, 2009, 03:07:49 PM
Quote from: Kenda on November 06, 2009, 02:47:32 PM
How could they take everything that ILC said as gospel, why wouldn't they check out the facts before jumping on his bandwagon as if he was the AB know it all, know everything guru. I went over to that site read all the posts and he kept changing his posts almost daily. They would ooh and awe over anything that spuied from his mouth.
Well.. IMO, cuz Tricia, the owner of WS, "verified" his identity. Heh.
They do this with nearly every case. Some of us have seen this kind of thing happening for years. I feel so badly for innocent locals and family members in a case who somehow manage to end up over there. Cuz many are legit and only trying to help, but end up being hurt. We've also seen folks who have inserted themselves into a case, joining forums everywhere, and running back and forth saying one thing here, and another there. For those who pay attention, it can really be an eyeopener. This particular poster, am just surprised he lasted as long as he did over there.
And how funny is that he wasn't even caught, but just confessed ........priceless
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 06, 2009, 03:22:28 PM »
Quote from: YourMom on November 06, 2009, 03:19:00 PM
Quote from: Wyks on November 06, 2009, 03:07:49 PM
Quote from: Kenda on November 06, 2009, 02:47:32 PM
How could they take everything that ILC said as gospel, why wouldn't they check out the facts before jumping on his bandwagon as if he was the AB know it all, know everything guru. I went over to that site read all the posts and he kept changing his posts almost daily. They would ooh and awe over anything that spuied from his mouth.
Well.. IMO, cuz Tricia, the owner of WS, "verified" his identity. Heh.
They do this with nearly every case. Some of us have seen this kind of thing happening for years. I feel so badly for innocent locals and family members in a case who somehow manage to end up over there. Cuz many are legit and only trying to help, but end up being hurt. We've also seen folks who have inserted themselves into a case, joining forums everywhere, and running back and forth saying one thing here, and another there. For those who pay attention, it can really be an eyeopener. This particular poster, am just surprised he lasted as long as he did over there.
And how funny is that he wasn't even caught, but just confessed ........priceless
So true!
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 06, 2009, 03:22:52 PM »
I found the Nancy Grace page with a friend of AB's commenting on the case.
"I saw scars on Alyssas arms but they were old. She said she hadnt done it in awhile. And yes she had friends. A lot of friends. All of them are standing by her. She never showed any signs. She always seemed happy. I wish I could have helped her. "
She's pretty vocal on there but seems to be pretty intelligent. She's also the one who didn't like the boyfriend and thinks he had something to do with it.
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Cops say Stephen Spina, 36, was found stabbed to death in his apartment in Mamaroneck, New York on September 17, 2007. Killer is still at large.
http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=57396
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Gee, if someone had only tried to tell you...
oh wait, I did! and I was told repeatedly to back off of ILC.
Yep, she sure did and here comes the hammer
We'll give her a very warm welcome.
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Cops say Stephen Spina, 36, was found stabbed to death in his apartment in Mamaroneck, New York on September 17, 2007. Killer is still at large.
http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=57396
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 06, 2009, 03:37:58 PM »
Quote from: Jan_in_Tx on November 06, 2009, 02:57:44 PM
Well since AB's MS is private I can't see any of her friends but maybe sorting through the ones I have found that have her on their list maybe we can come up with something...its mind boggling
I sure would love to have access to a Jefferson City High School annual or yearbook and look for the initials DN.
Is there anyone on here that is close enough to JC to access the public library?
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 06, 2009, 03:38:33 PM »
Quote from: espresso on November 06, 2009, 03:25:01 PM
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Jodibug
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Gee, if someone had only tried to tell you...
oh wait, I did! and I was told repeatedly to back off of ILC.
Yep, she sure did and here comes the hammer
We'll give her a very warm welcome.
I read that too over there and thought the EXACT same thing!
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 06, 2009, 03:40:03 PM »
Quote from: Ramblin Rose on November 06, 2009, 03:37:58 PM
Quote from: Jan_in_Tx on November 06, 2009, 02:57:44 PM
Well since AB's MS is private I can't see any of her friends but maybe sorting through the ones I have found that have her on their list maybe we can come up with something...its mind boggling
I sure would love to have access to a Jefferson City High School annual or yearbook and look for the initials DN.
Is there anyone on here that is close enough to JC to access the public library?
I am not but classmates.com might be worth a search on!
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Quote from: espresso on November 06, 2009, 03:25:01 PM
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Jodibug
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Gee, if someone had only tried to tell you...
oh wait, I did! and I was told repeatedly to back off of ILC.
Yep, she sure did and here comes the hammer
We'll give her a very warm welcome.
For the day I was reading over there that ILC was on I really liked Jodibug and was shocked that she did not get banned that first day. I think a lot of us called it day one when the inconsistencies came out. Some of us even called BS
I think I may have missed welcoming some new monkeys. Please forgive me as I have my plate full right now with other stuff and will be off and on sporadically.
WELCOME NEW MONKEYS
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 06, 2009, 03:44:05 PM »
O/T
this entire thing over there just makes the owner's Tweets even funnier!
websleuths A punk kid named Ryan P. pretened to know the family of Elizabeth. Turned out he's a troll who was using Elizabeth's murder as something fun
about 2 hours ago from web
Replywebsleuths Wonder what today will bring. I'll be gone most of the day but will check back in when I get home. Be very safe OK?
about 6 hours ago from web
Replywebsleuths Looking for volunteers to be moderators. Let me know.
11:14 AM Nov 5th from web
Replywebsleuths Websleuths looking for moderators. Contact me at
tgrif@xmission.com
No pay. Bad hours, but tons of fun
9:40 PM Nov 4th from web
Replywebsleuths
Plze note we are the only forum that verifies if someone claims to know people in the case and wants to post about them. I dislike imposters
3:51 PM Nov 2nd from web
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 06, 2009, 03:49:59 PM »
Quote from: MyView on November 06, 2009, 03:44:05 PM
O/T
this entire thing over there just makes the owner's Tweets even funnier!
websleuths A punk kid named Ryan P. pretened to know the family of Elizabeth. Turned out he's a troll who was using Elizabeth's murder as something fun
about 2 hours ago from web
Replywebsleuths Wonder what today will bring. I'll be gone most of the day but will check back in when I get home. Be very safe OK?
about 6 hours ago from web
Replywebsleuths Looking for volunteers to be moderators. Let me know.
11:14 AM Nov 5th from web
Replywebsleuths Websleuths looking for moderators. Contact me at
tgrif@xmission.com
No pay. Bad hours, but tons of fun
9:40 PM Nov 4th from web
Replywebsleuths
Plze note we are the only forum that verifies if someone claims to know people in the case and wants to post about them. I dislike imposters
3:51 PM Nov 2nd from web
Ryan P....that is the first name and last initial of the new husband of AB's aunt KN, from what I have gathered on this site.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 06, 2009, 03:59:48 PM »
Originally Posted by Tricia
Guys,
I have just heard from ILC. Let's drop this for now. I'll write more later tonight.
Back to discussing Elizabeth.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Quote from: Wyks on November 06, 2009, 01:24:22 PM
Just posted at WS:
Ilovecookies
11-06-2009 02:09 PM
I would like to point out that what people do on websites like this is damn wrong. Who cares about the KNP blog, or whether or not she converted to marry him, or even what religion they are.
Also, just to point out that you "slueths" have been duped. I'm what the internet refers to as a troll. I don't know anything about AB's family, I just reposted what I've been reading online. Also, I'm not even local, I'm from columbia, and haven't been to jefferson city in years.
As to my credibility, it is 0, but it is interesting to see that ANYONE can get on ANY of these sights, and pretend to be ANYONE they want to be. Also, it is pretty interesting to see that all of you clung to what I say as though it is fact. I'm actually surprised that you "gossips" haven't truly questioned my credibility before.
Anyway I guess I'll get banned now so for the last time,
ILC/Shadow2nose OUT!
OMG I missed seeing this while I was out earlier, lolol
Imagine that, someone duping Tricia? Please tell me how Tricia verifies people are who they say they are? Does she ask for a copy of their birth certificate and get fingerprints? That's about the only way to know for sure. I love it!
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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And Tricia will be back later this evening with more info
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Quote from: no rose colored glasses on November 06, 2009, 02:23:24 PM
Tricia needs a new way to verify new posters, geez.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 06, 2009, 04:17:29 PM »
http://www.flixster.com/user/crutie
sure into the kid movies for being so evil.........
and this from another posting forum:
Answer to a post Sammie found from Tricia at WS:
Dear Ryan,
You are a disgusting human being. To use the Murder of a little girl to play your games is about as low as you can go.
Try and log back in Ryan, I want you to read what I wrote to you as your reason for banning.
It is illegal to come to a website and pretend you are someone you are not with the intent of disrupting the site. That was his intent clearly. Why else pretend unless you want to cause harm to the site.
Websleuths is a legitimate business. Imagine if someone called Domino's and pretended to order 200 pizzas. That is harassment of the business. Just like here. The old days of pulling this kind of crap are over my friends.
Dear Tricia: YOU are a disgusting human being. To use the murder of a little girl as an excuse to snoop on and harrass her family and community is about as low as YOU can go.
WS is a legitimate business? Maybe... if you consider it legitimate to use the tragedies of others to hawk cheap merchandise. As long as people like YOU exist, pulling this kind of crap will never be over.
Love, Didit
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Nice research Tricia
http://www.areacodelocations.info/5/573.html
http://www.areacodelocations.info/allcities.php?ac=573
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 06, 2009, 04:33:45 PM »
Quote from: YourMom on November 06, 2009, 04:17:29 PM
http://www.flixster.com/user/crutie
sure into the kid movies for being so evil.........
and this from another posting forum:
Answer to a post Sammie found from Tricia at WS:
Dear Ryan,
You are a disgusting human being. To use the Murder of a little girl to play your games is about as low as you can go.
Try and log back in Ryan, I want you to read what I wrote to you as your reason for banning.
It is illegal to come to a website and pretend you are someone you are not with the intent of disrupting the site. That was his intent clearly. Why else pretend unless you want to cause harm to the site.
Websleuths is a legitimate business. Imagine if someone called Domino's and pretended to order 200 pizzas. That is harassment of the business.
Just like here. The old days of pulling this kind of crap are over my friends.
Dear Tricia: YOU are a disgusting human being. To use the murder of a little girl as an excuse to snoop on and harrass her family and community is about as low as YOU can go.
WS is a legitimate business? Maybe... if you consider it legitimate to use the tragedies of others to hawk cheap merchandise. As long as people like YOU exist, pulling this kind of crap will never be over.
Love, Didit
So what did he buy from said business that impacted their Profitability for the day? Did not realize till that statement that WS is only about profit and selling. Wow, Tricia posted a testimonial that SHE had checked ILC out early when he joined and as far as she could tell he was legit. Pretty much says it all there, she will be sad to find out that her own testimonial not only cast doubt on her abilities but also gives ILC a pass on this one. Ketchup with that crow?
Back to what really matters, JUSTICE FOR ELIZABETH!
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Quote from: klaasend on November 06, 2009, 04:22:35 PM
Nice research Tricia
http://www.areacodelocations.info/5/573.html
http://www.areacodelocations.info/allcities.php?ac=573
Being from Missouri, I knew this area code covers everywhere from Jeff City to Rolla to Ft. L W. It's hilarious Mrs. Sleuth herself couldnt' just google it and figure it out. DUH
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