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« Reply #1900 on: November 18, 2009, 12:25:08 PM »

I read on another forum that Alyssa's grandmother attended the hearing. Also, after catching up on 15 pages of posts I'm not sure if it was posted but it was a member of WS at the hearing that was handing out the ribbons for Elizabeth not the murderer.


I'm really hoping they stream the hearing at 1pm live. I'd like to see current video of Alyssa and I want to know who that second grave was for. Geez. How could they not see the signs that she's completely disturbed?

Oh, thank God about the ribbons!

It was tweeted by some news person that "JC teens" were handing out the ribbons - and the way it was worded it was hard to understand if they were handing it out on behalf of Elizabeth or her alleged killer...
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« Reply #1901 on: November 18, 2009, 12:25:36 PM »

Has anyone read or heard if the grandparents were at the court house (alyssa's)
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« Reply #1902 on: November 18, 2009, 12:26:16 PM »

PRAISE THE LORD!!!!!!

Watch KRCG live from the Cole County Courthouse

http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/content.aspx?id=316920

Thank you.Do we need valium kitty?   

What do you think?
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« Reply #1903 on: November 18, 2009, 12:27:25 PM »

oh, and also that an investigator confirmed that Alyssa led them to the grave stated she did it "to see what it felt like" and cooperated fully.  He confirmed the 2 graves that were dug but was stopped when he began to state who the other grave was for.  It was said that info will come out at the hearing this afternoon.  Alyssa has apparently attempted suicide since being in Prengers these past couple of weeks, by attempting to cut her wrists with her own fingernails.  (all per member over at WS who attended the hearing)

her little sister?  God, how cold...
How do you know the other grave was for her little sister??  Believe me.... I have the utmost disgust for this girl but there is an awful lot of assuming going on in this forum.

????

sorry, I was speculating and didn't word it right.

bananas - I apologize.  But I have to disagree about the assuming here - when what this girl is purported to have done is way worse than any speculation I've seen...

imo, of course.
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« Reply #1904 on: November 18, 2009, 12:27:50 PM »

oh, and also that an investigator confirmed that Alyssa led them to the grave stated she did it "to see what it felt like" and cooperated fully.  He confirmed the 2 graves that were dug but was stopped when he began to state who the other grave was for.  It was said that info will come out at the hearing this afternoon.  Alyssa has apparently attempted suicide since being in Prengers these past couple of weeks, by attempting to cut her wrists with her own fingernails.  (all per member over at WS who attended the hearing)

If she was serious about suicide, she would have chewed through her veins with her teeth. Poor baby. 
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« Reply #1905 on: November 18, 2009, 12:28:17 PM »

PRAISE THE LORD!!!!!!

Watch KRCG live from the Cole County Courthouse

http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/content.aspx?id=316920

Thank you.Do we need valium kitty?   

Might need it for the 1:00 hearing.  TY!
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« Reply #1906 on: November 18, 2009, 12:28:18 PM »


Thanks Fanny.   an angelic monkey
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« Reply #1907 on: November 18, 2009, 12:28:35 PM »

15-year-old Missouri girl to be tried as adult in slaying of 9-year-old neighbor

JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. (AP) — A Missouri judge has ordered a 15-year-old girl to stand trial as an adult for the slaying of a 9-year-old neighbor, whose disappearance last month touched off a two-day search.

Cole County Circuit Judge Jon Beetem ruled Wednesday that the slaying of Elizabeth Olton was vicious and the state had no adequate facilities or services to treat the teenage suspect if she were to remain in the juvenile court system.

The teen was immediately arrested on an adult charge of first-degree murder.

Authorities have not publicly identified the suspect, and her juvenile defense attorney identified her in court Wednesday only as Alyssa.

Authorities have said the suspect knew Elizabeth and was from the same area west of Jefferson City.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-us-missouri-girl-slain,0,3018556.story

Sorry I haven't been to this thread in a while. I wanted to drop by to see what is going on. The Prelim trial is today? She will be tried as an adult? That is good. What a sad story all around. This girl is young to be such a vicious killer. Makes you wonder what happened in her life to cause this or what else she may have done prior to this.
I read there were two graves dug? Who was the 2nd grave for? Has that been said>
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« Reply #1908 on: November 18, 2009, 12:28:39 PM »

PRAISE THE LORD!!!!!!

Watch KRCG live from the Cole County Courthouse

http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/content.aspx?id=316920

Thank you.Do we need valium kitty?   

What do you think?

yes.  lol.
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« Reply #1909 on: November 18, 2009, 12:29:00 PM »

Thank God above Alyssa has been charged as an adult.  I bet she pleas out and there won't be a trial.  Since the DP is off the table there really is no point in moving forward with a trial unless she plans to plead insanity or something.  She can't plead innocent after leading investigators to the body. 
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« Reply #1910 on: November 18, 2009, 12:29:01 PM »

PRAISE THE LORD!!!!!!

Watch KRCG live from the Cole County Courthouse

http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/content.aspx?id=316920

Thank you.Do we need valium kitty?   

Might need it for the 1:00 hearing.  TY!

No problem.   
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« Reply #1911 on: November 18, 2009, 12:31:12 PM »


yes.  lol.

You've been here a while.I brought you a snack.Now we are ready.   an angelic monkey
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« Reply #1912 on: November 18, 2009, 12:32:08 PM »

oh, and also that an investigator confirmed that Alyssa led them to the grave stated she did it "to see what it felt like" and cooperated fully.  He confirmed the 2 graves that were dug but was stopped when he began to state who the other grave was for.  It was said that info will come out at the hearing this afternoon.  Alyssa has apparently attempted suicide since being in Prengers these past couple of weeks, by attempting to cut her wrists with her own fingernails.  (all per member over at WS who attended the hearing)
We are all appalled at what she has done..... but if it is speculation, isn't it in the best interest of this investigation to say so... and only state real facts as fact?  Apology accepted.... and I am sure I will make plenty of errors in the way I say things too.  Perhaps we will find out who the other grave was for this afternoon.
 
her little sister?  God, how cold...
How do you know the other grave was for her little sister??  Believe me.... I have the utmost disgust for this girl but there is an awful lot of assuming going on in this forum.

????

sorry, I was speculating and didn't word it right.

bananas - I apologize.  But I have to disagree about the assuming here - when what this girl is purported to have done is way worse than any speculation I've seen...

imo, of course.
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« Reply #1913 on: November 18, 2009, 12:32:18 PM »

More details released in murder case

In Cole County Circuit Wednesday, many more details were released about the 15-year-old girl accused of killing 9-year-old Elizabeth Olten in October. Among them, that Alyssa Bustamante dug two graves in St. Martins about five days before Elizabeth was found dead. Alyssa also attempted suicide by using her fingernails while in state custody. Lawyers for Alyssa also told court officials he worried for his client's safety inside the Cole County Jail.

http://www.abc17news.com/news/story.php?id=15497
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« Reply #1914 on: November 18, 2009, 12:33:06 PM »

Has anyone read or heard if the grandparents were at the court house (alyssa's)


Yes, I read on another forum that the Grandma of Alyssa was there. But nothing about her reaction or if she spoke to anyone.

I can't follow twitter at all-it drives me crazy especially when it's reporters trying to tweet. They don't seem to know how to post something correctly in 140 characters or less.
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« Reply #1915 on: November 18, 2009, 12:33:44 PM »

Has anyone read or heard if the grandparents were at the court house (alyssa's)

Come on media! Post their names......
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« Reply #1916 on: November 18, 2009, 12:34:59 PM »

oh, and also that an investigator confirmed that Alyssa led them to the grave stated she did it "to see what it felt like" and cooperated fully.  He confirmed the 2 graves that were dug but was stopped when he began to state who the other grave was for.  It was said that info will come out at the hearing this afternoon.  Alyssa has apparently attempted suicide since being in Prengers these past couple of weeks, by attempting to cut her wrists with her own fingernails.  (all per member over at WS who attended the hearing)
We are all appalled at what she has done..... but if it is speculation, isn't it in the best interest of this investigation to say so... and only state real facts as fact?  Apology accepted.... and I am sure I will make plenty of errors in the way I say things too.  Perhaps we will find out who the other grave was for this afternoon.
 
her little sister?  God, how cold...
How do you know the other grave was for her little sister??  Believe me.... I have the utmost disgust for this girl but there is an awful lot of assuming going on in this forum.

????

sorry, I was speculating and didn't word it right.

bananas - I apologize.  But I have to disagree about the assuming here - when what this girl is purported to have done is way worse than any speculation I've seen...

imo, of course.
See I already messed up this post.... yikes!
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« Reply #1917 on: November 18, 2009, 12:35:15 PM »

More details released in murder case

In Cole County Circuit Wednesday, many more details were released about the 15-year-old girl accused of killing 9-year-old Elizabeth Olten in October. Among them, that Alyssa Bustamante dug two graves in St. Martins about five days before Elizabeth was found dead. Alyssa also attempted suicide by using her fingernails while in state custody. Lawyers for Alyssa also told court officials he worried for his client's safety inside the Cole County Jail.

http://www.abc17news.com/news/story.php?id=15497

Awww. Really?   
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« Reply #1918 on: November 18, 2009, 12:35:19 PM »

bethford: RT @KOMUnews: Sgt. David Rice of the MO Hwy Patrol testified that Bustamante told him she planned the murder of 9-year-old Elizabeth Olten.
6 minutes ago from UberTwitter

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« Reply #1919 on: November 18, 2009, 12:36:21 PM »

oh, and also that an investigator confirmed that Alyssa led them to the grave stated she did it "to see what it felt like" and cooperated fully.  He confirmed the 2 graves that were dug but was stopped when he began to state who the other grave was for.  It was said that info will come out at the hearing this afternoon.  Alyssa has apparently attempted suicide since being in Prengers these past couple of weeks, by attempting to cut her wrists with her own fingernails.  (all per member over at WS who attended the hearing)

If she was serious about suicide, she would have chewed through her veins with her teeth. Poor baby. 

well then "insanity" might be on the table for her case.  clearly NOT.
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