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Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
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Topic: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 - 11/18/09 (Read 603248 times)
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jill
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 18, 2009, 01:05:52 PM »
Quote from: ScareyCarrie on November 18, 2009, 12:49:44 PM
Quote from: jill on November 18, 2009, 12:21:18 PM
i have a very, very hard time believeing that this 15 year old did not exhibit any warning signs to her family....
she seems extremely hard core...
I have to agree,
My great gma lives with my parents, and teen sister, my gma thinks my sister is crazy because she doesnt vacuum for long enough, or doesnt know the dishwasher needs unloaded when the door is open, and thinks shes like weird or troubled b/c she hangs out in her room alot....
So older ppl pick up on things and think something is wrong b/c things were diff in their day.. they would have known, and she had troubles before, was in therapy and all that so they had to have known.
Maybe not that she was a killer but that she was whacko and needed major help/locked up...
Hope that all made sense
yes, it did.
Sounds from what we know that Alyssa had some serious problems. All the more reason, imo, to keep a very close eye - even if just to be sure that Alyssa wasn't harming herself.
From some of the stuff I've viewed that smart sleuthers have ferretted from the i-net, it appears that there was what I would call, imo, lax supervision.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Quote from: Northern Rose on November 18, 2009, 01:02:52 PM
Quote from: ScareyCarrie on November 18, 2009, 12:49:44 PM
Quote from: jill on November 18, 2009, 12:21:18 PM
i have a very, very hard time believeing that this 15 year old did not exhibit any warning signs to her family....
she seems extremely hard core...
I have to agree,
My great gma lives with my parents, and teen sister, my gma thinks my sister is crazy because she doesnt vacuum for long enough, or doesnt know the dishwasher needs unloaded when the door is open, and thinks shes like weird or troubled b/c she hangs out in her room alot....
So older ppl pick up on things and think something is wrong b/c things were diff in their day.. they would have known, and she had troubles before, was in therapy and all that so they had to have known.
Maybe not that she was a killer but that she was whacko and needed major help/locked up...
Hope that all made sense
Grandma had issues with her own daughter - the mother of Alyssa. You would think she would be familiar with warning signs?
Hope you and family are doing better
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 18, 2009, 01:07:44 PM »
Quote from: islandmonkey on November 18, 2009, 01:05:10 PM
OK~I really need to learn to proofread better......
But, nevertheless, my sincere prayers for Elizabeth and her family after such a tragedy from such an evil girl. God be with them in their time of need.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 18, 2009, 01:07:56 PM »
The live stream is up again
LIVE STREAM: Press Conference
Watch KRCG live from the Cole County Courthouse at Noon
Click to here to see live stream
http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/content.aspx?id=348790
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Quote from: islandmonkey on November 18, 2009, 01:05:10 PM
thanks, IM - very beautiful I hope so much that Elizabeth's family feels a bit more confident today that their girl is very important, is very valued.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 18, 2009, 01:08:48 PM »
Quote from: ScareyCarrie on November 18, 2009, 01:05:55 PM
Quote from: Northern Rose on November 18, 2009, 01:02:52 PM
Quote from: ScareyCarrie on November 18, 2009, 12:49:44 PM
Quote from: jill on November 18, 2009, 12:21:18 PM
i have a very, very hard time believeing that this 15 year old did not exhibit any warning signs to her family....
she seems extremely hard core...
I have to agree,
My great gma lives with my parents, and teen sister, my gma thinks my sister is crazy because she doesnt vacuum for long enough, or doesnt know the dishwasher needs unloaded when the door is open, and thinks shes like weird or troubled b/c she hangs out in her room alot....
So older ppl pick up on things and think something is wrong b/c things were diff in their day.. they would have known, and she had troubles before, was in therapy and all that so they had to have known.
Maybe not that she was a killer but that she was whacko and needed major help/locked up...
Hope that all made sense
Grandma had issues with her own daughter - the mother of Alyssa. You would think she would be familiar with warning signs?
Hope you and family are doing better
We are TY
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Thanks IM for the beautiful picture.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 18, 2009, 01:11:00 PM »
Quote from: Northern Rose on November 18, 2009, 01:02:52 PM
Quote from: ScareyCarrie on November 18, 2009, 12:49:44 PM
Quote from: jill on November 18, 2009, 12:21:18 PM
i have a very, very hard time believeing that this 15 year old did not exhibit any warning signs to her family....
she seems extremely hard core...
I have to agree,
My great gma lives with my parents, and teen sister, my gma thinks my sister is crazy because she doesnt vacuum for long enough, or doesnt know the dishwasher needs unloaded when the door is open, and thinks shes like weird or troubled b/c she hangs out in her room alot....
So older ppl pick up on things and think something is wrong b/c things were diff in their day.. they would have known, and she had troubles before, was in therapy and all that so they had to have known.
Maybe not that she was a killer but that she was whacko and needed major help/locked up...
Hope that all made sense
Grandma had issues with her own daughter - the mother of Alyssa. You would think she would be familiar with warning signs?
Yes, common sense dictates that you WOULD think that, but speaking from familial experience, this is not always the case. My husband's side of the family has some SERIOUS issues (none to this degree [yet], thank God!), but while his mother begrudgingly admits the troubles that clearly exist with her daughter and son in law, she makes constant excuses for it, places blame elsewhere and then refuses to recognize the exact same blatant repetitive behaviors exhibited in the grandchildren. I swear some people just refuse to face reality. Enabling by Denial. Maybe afraid to come to terms with whatever their role in it might be? So strange to me. But I can say it boggles our minds how people in our own family refuse to face the truth. So in this case, I can totally believe that the GM could have had plenty of warning signs and just refused to identify/confront them. I'm willing to bet she's still defending Alyssa even after witnessing her confession. Crazy.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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I cannot get the live stream video... is anyone experiencing difficulty?
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Quote from: bananas on November 18, 2009, 01:13:22 PM
I cannot get the live stream video... is anyone experiencing difficulty?
::MonkeyMad::Same here none will work 4 me
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Quote from: TiskTisk on November 18, 2009, 01:14:07 PM
Quote from: bananas on November 18, 2009, 01:13:22 PM
I cannot get the live stream video... is anyone experiencing difficulty?
::MonkeyMad::Same here none will work 4 me
I can't get it either...
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Quote from: Jan_in_Tx on November 18, 2009, 01:16:03 PM
Quote from: TiskTisk on November 18, 2009, 01:14:07 PM
Quote from: bananas on November 18, 2009, 01:13:22 PM
I cannot get the live stream video... is anyone experiencing difficulty?
::MonkeyMad::Same here none will work 4 me
I can't get it either...
Me either???? I get teh commercial then it says vid unavailable
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Quote from: TiskTisk on November 18, 2009, 01:14:07 PM
Quote from: bananas on November 18, 2009, 01:13:22 PM
I cannot get the live stream video... is anyone experiencing difficulty?
::MonkeyMad::Same here none will work 4 me
No, it won't play for me either.
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Quote from: Jan_in_Tx on November 18, 2009, 01:16:03 PM
Quote from: TiskTisk on November 18, 2009, 01:14:07 PM
Quote from: bananas on November 18, 2009, 01:13:22 PM
I cannot get the live stream video... is anyone experiencing difficulty?
::MonkeyMad::Same here none will work 4 me
I can't get it either...
Is anyone able to get it?
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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krcg: A grand jury indicted Alyssa Bustamante on first degree murder charges for the murder of 9-year-old Elizabeth Olten.
less than a minute ago from web
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Quote from: espresso on November 18, 2009, 01:18:20 PM
krcg: A grand jury indicted Alyssa Bustamante on first degree murder charges for the murder of 9-year-old Elizabeth Olten.
less than a minute ago from web
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I cannot get the live stream video... is anyone experiencing difficulty?
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Bustamante indicted for 1st degree murder
COLE COUNTY, MO. -- Update: 12:11 p.m.
A grand jury indicted Alyssa Bustamante on first degree murder charges.
http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=378975
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can't see it but i now have audio on it off the live feed link. coming up next after commercial more updates from the courthouse. probably the grand hearing decision of 1st degree murder
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