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Author Topic: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 - 11/18/09  (Read 178677 times)
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« Reply #1960 on: November 18, 2009, 01:20:44 PM »

Has anyone found a national news station covering the trial etc?
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« Reply #1961 on: November 18, 2009, 01:20:56 PM »

I cannot get the live stream video... is anyone experiencing difficulty?
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No, it won't play for me either.   

Me either.       Hey CBB.   
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« Reply #1962 on: November 18, 2009, 01:21:27 PM »

I cannot get the live stream video... is anyone experiencing difficulty?

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I am getting is sporadically.  It seems to be the live newscast but I saw 3 woman sitting around a table, not in front of the courthouse like the site says
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« Reply #1963 on: November 18, 2009, 01:21:29 PM »

addegan: Cole county grand jury returns two count indictment against alyssa Bustamante in olten murder. 1st degree murder and armed criminal action
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« Reply #1964 on: November 18, 2009, 01:22:35 PM »

6 min ago - Indictment: Girl was stabbed, her throat cut
Court documents released Wednesday show that 9-year-old Elizabeth Olten was stabbed and her throat was cut. Earlier, a judge ruled that the 15-year-old girl charged with the crime should stand trial as an adult. Alyssa Bustamante is charged with first-degree murder and armed criminal action in the case. Elizabeth went missing in late October and was later found dead. 



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« Reply #1965 on: November 18, 2009, 01:22:52 PM »

crap...lost it again.  BLERRRRRRRGGGGG! 
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« Reply #1966 on: November 18, 2009, 01:23:22 PM »

Alyssa Bustamante, 15, to be tried as adult in Olten murder case in Cole County

Alyssa Bustamante, 15, has been certified as an adult and will stand trial for the murder of Elizabeth Olten, 9, of rural Cole County.

Cole County Circuit Judge Jon Beetem ruled today the crime was vicious and the state’s juvenile facilities are inadequate to deal with someone who would commit such a crime.

Law enforcement testified that Bustamante had led them to the shallow grave in the woods where Olten’s body was found two days after she went missing. One officer testified in court today that Bustamante had told investigators she did it “because she wanted to know what it felt like to kill someone.”

 
Records show the suspect has attempted suicide in the past and has had ongoing mental evaluations.

Olten’s family members attending the hearing wore pink T-shirts with her picture.

Bustamante’s defense attorney asked the judge to let her stand trial as a juvenile, saying trying her as an adult would be a death sentence.

http://www.missourinet.com/2009/11/18/alyssa-bustamante-15-to-be-tried-as-adult-in-olten-murder/
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« Reply #1967 on: November 18, 2009, 01:23:42 PM »

none are working for me as well.....so i am going to assume that its noto us!!!!!
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« Reply #1968 on: November 18, 2009, 01:24:48 PM »

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thanks, IM - very beautiful  I hope so much that Elizabeth's family feels a bit more confident today that their girl is very important, is very valued

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Thanks and I'm sure they are now........still so terribly sad.
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« Reply #1969 on: November 18, 2009, 01:25:28 PM »

guess we will be moving to thread #3 soon...
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« Reply #1970 on: November 18, 2009, 01:25:44 PM »

Maybe the live links aren't working yet because the 1pm hearing won't start for another 30 minutes or so.
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« Reply #1971 on: November 18, 2009, 01:26:45 PM »

i have a very, very hard time believeing that this 15 year old did not exhibit any warning signs to her family....

she seems extremely hard core...
I have a hard time believing the therapists that were treating AB didn't see the warnin signs.
Having been involved with experts in the mental health field for many years I can say that I would be surprised if they did.
My mother was in and out of mental health care for over thirty years and did not get a proper diagnoses until about two weeks before she died. She saw many different doctors and fooled them all; easily. I had discribed her actions while she (a raving lunatic who constantly lied) contradicted me. The experts listened to her. And prescribed her an SSRI that caused her to have a psychotic break. It is rare to find a doctor that really knows how to spot people like this.
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« Reply #1972 on: November 18, 2009, 01:27:21 PM »

Mo. teen to be tried as adult in death of girl, 9
By DAVID LIEB and CHRIS BLANK (AP) – 45 minutes ago

JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. — A police officer testified Wednesday that a 15-year-old girl told investigators she killed a 9-year-old neighbor because she wanted to know what it felt like to kill someone, and a judge ruled the teen should stand trial as an adult.

Authorities have not publicly identified the suspect, but her attorney referred to her in court Wednesday as Alyssa.

Police testified that Elizabeth Olten did nothing to provoke the attack against her, and that the teenage suspect led authorities to the girl's body after they questioned her.

Asked by juvenile justice attorney Samantha Green whether Alyssa gave a reason for killing the girl, highway patrol Sgt. David Rice replied "ultimately, she stated she wanted to know what it felt like."

Cole County Circuit Judge Jon Beetem ruled that the slaying was vicious and that the state had no adequate facilities or services to treat the suspect if she stayed in the juvenile court system.

The teen, who sat silently through the proceedings in an orange prison jumpsuit and handcuffs, was arrested on an adult charge of first-degree murder. She was scheduled to be arraigned later Wednesday.

Hundreds of people searched for Elizabeth when she did not return home on Oct. 21 from a neighbor's house in St. Martin's, west of Jefferson City. Authorities have not released details about how Elizabeth was killed or why she was chosen, and those details did not come out during the hearing.

Juvenile officers testified Wednesday that Alyssa previously considered committing suicide and had been receiving treatment for depression for a few years before Elizabeth's death.

A Missouri State Highway Patrol officer testified that Alyssa admitted to digging two holes on Oct. 16 with the intention of burying Elizabeth — a sign that juvenile officers said showed the girl's killing was premeditated.

Throughout the hearing, it was assumed that Alyssa committed the killing, which is a legal requirement under state law for conducting adult certification hearings. However, Alyssa's attorney objected repeatedly when attorneys tried to introduce into evidence specific details about the killing.

Juvenile defense attorney Kurt Valentine argued that Alyssa would either kill herself or be assaulted and killed by others if she were placed with adults in a jail cell while awaiting trial or in a prison if convicted.

"We are throwing away the child and we are signing a death sentence for Alyssa," Valentine said. "She is not going to survive her time in the Cole County jail."

Alyssa appeared in court with straight, shoulder-length brown hair, with bangs frequently covering her eyes. Her mother and grandmother sat on one side of the courtroom. The grandmother has been Alyssa's legal guardian for about half of her life.

On the other side of the courtroom sat Elizabeth's mother, other family members and friends, some of whom wore pink shirts, which was Elizabeth's favorite color.
State juvenile officials said Missouri has no secure facilities to house female juvenile offenders and would have had to renovate a facility and create a specific supervision plan had Alyssa been kept in juvenile custody.

If convicted of first-degree murder, the teen could be sentenced to up to life in prison.


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j0daWk3sRLzLhXktLIXEETYccUTwD9C231O80
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« Reply #1973 on: November 18, 2009, 01:29:36 PM »

COLE COUNTY, MO. -- Update: 12:11 p.m.

A grand jury handed down a two count indictment to Alyssa Bustamante, the first on first degree murder charges for the murder of 9-year-old Elizabeth Olten and the second count on armed criminal action.

Court documents said that Bustamante allegedly strangled, stabbed and cut Olten’s throat.     


http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=378975
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« Reply #1974 on: November 18, 2009, 01:30:21 PM »

So her mother showed up too? Wonder if she was wasted. 
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« Reply #1975 on: November 18, 2009, 01:31:06 PM »

JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. (AP) — A Missouri grand jury has indicted 15-year-old Alyssa Bustamante on on a charge of first-degree murder in slaying of a 9-year-old girl.

The grand jury indictment filed Wednesday accuses Bustamante of killing Elizabeth Holten by strangling her, cutting her throat and stabbing her on Oct. 21 — the day Elizabeth went missing.

She also is charged with armed criminal action for using a knife in the attack.

The charges in adult court were filed just hours after Bustamante had been certified to stand trial as an adult. She’s being held in the Cole County jail with no bond.

http://www.news-leader.com/article/20091118/BREAKING01/91118029/Girl--15--indicted-in-Missouri-slaying-of-9-year-old
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« Reply #1976 on: November 18, 2009, 01:31:27 PM »

COLE COUNTY, MO. -- Update: 12:11 p.m.

A grand jury handed down a two count indictment to Alyssa Bustamante, the first on first degree murder charges for the murder of 9-year-old Elizabeth Olten and the second count on armed criminal action.

Court documents said that Bustamante allegedly strangled, stabbed and cut Olten’s throat.     


http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=378975

 
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« Reply #1977 on: November 18, 2009, 01:31:29 PM »

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OK~I really need to learn to proofread better......

But, nevertheless, my sincere prayers for Elizabeth and her family after such a tragedy from such an evil girl. God be with them in their time of need.

Hi IM.  That is beautiful and touches my heart.  an angelic monkey
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« Reply #1978 on: November 18, 2009, 01:31:32 PM »

COLE COUNTY, MO. -- Update: 12:11 p.m.

A grand jury handed down a two count indictment to Alyssa Bustamante, the first on first degree murder charges for the murder of 9-year-old Elizabeth Olten and the second count on armed criminal action.

Court documents said that Bustamante allegedly strangled, stabbed and cut Olten’s throat.     


http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=378975


It's just going to get even worse if that's possible.....How truly despicable.
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« Reply #1979 on: November 18, 2009, 01:31:49 PM »

Thanks for the articles, NR!
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