Elizabeth Olten #3 11/18/09 -
Northern Rose:
The Arrest Warrant has the Monster's height and weight
Height - 65 " (5'5")
Weight - 130lbs
Elizabeth was 5'2" and 108 lbs.
There was not a lot of difference in their sizes . She was really determined to do this.
Wyks:
Quote from: Northern Rose on December 03, 2009, 01:33:09 PM
Bustamante hearing cancelled
COLE COUNTY, MO. -- The status hearing for the murder suspect accused of killing Elizabeth Olten has been cancelled.
Alyssa Bustamante, 15, had a status hearing scheduled to for Dec. 7. The hearing would follow –up to see if Bustamante had a lawyer.
Now, Bustamante will be re-arraigned, with counsel, on Dec. 8, 2009 at 10:30 a.m. At the arraignment hearing, Bustamante will be handed down the indictments again and would plead guilty or not guilty.
A judge entered a not-guilty plea on behalf of Bustamante, who was certified as an adult on Nov. 18, because she did not have a lawyer present.
Bustamante appeared briefly before a Cole County judge, just hours after she had been certified to stand trial as an adult in Olten’s murder.
Bustamante is charged in the strangulation and stabbing death of Olten.
This type of proceeding normally lasts less than 5 minutes.
http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=385365
Thanks Northern Rose!
Was just going to post and ask what a status hearing is. So it's like a follow-up hearing to ensure that she has an attorney, and was cancelled since she has one?
cookie:
Quote from: Wyks on December 03, 2009, 01:18:14 PM
LOL Bananas! And the thing is, it's not a bad word! Just so ya know. I'm trying to be a good monkey for Santa, honest. lol hehe ::MonkeyAngel:: It's the 'o' word for someone who stands by and watches, sees, what is going on.
ha ha! glad I am not the only one who doesn't know the word...still don't know what it is even with the 'o' ...what is the last and middle letter? now I am curious .....lol!
Northern Rose:
Our View: If M.D. took part as alleged, try her as adult
As Mitchell residents wonder whether a 15-year-old girl will be tried as an adult in connection with the murder of another local teen, the state of Missouri is in the midst of an eerily similar case.
In that state, it was determined last week that 15-year-old Alyssa Bustamante will be tried as an adult for the murder of 9-year-old Elizabeth Olten.
As Mitchell residents wonder whether a 15-year-old girl will be tried as an adult in connection with the murder of another local teen, the state of Missouri is in the midst of an eerily similar case.
In that state, it was determined last week that 15-year-old Alyssa Bustamante will be tried as an adult for the murder of 9-year-old Elizabeth Olten.
Bustamante is accused of digging a grave in the woods and then spending a week plotting the murder. On Oct. 21, authorities say Bustamante strangled Olten without provocation, cut the girl’s throat and stabbed her. She also is accused of burying the younger girl’s body.
In South Dakota, high school student Jasmine Guevara was found dead last month in the trunk of a car in rural Mitchell. Her throat had been cut and she had been stabbed. The car had been set ablaze.
Charged with murder is Alexander Salgado, 20. In addition, a 15-year-old girl known only as M.D. has been arrested.
People have so many questions. What was M.D.’s role in the case? Will M.D. be tried as an adult? Should she be?
As The Daily Republic reported this week, the executive director of the South Dakota State’s Attorney Association said that teens involved in homicide cases often stand trial as adults.
According to state law, 16- and 17-yearolds can be tried as adults based on various factors, including whether the offense is committed in an aggressive, violent, premeditated or willful manner.
In the Guevara case, it appears that yes, the offense was committed in an aggressive, violent and premeditated manner. It also has been traumatic to the community.
Whether a child is tried in juvenile or adult court looms large in punishment. Children found guilty remain anonymous and are placed in juvenile facilities, for instance. Those found guilty in adult court face incarceration in prison. Their names are made public.
The catch in this case is that M.D. is 15. In South Dakota, children younger than 16 who face even the most serious of felonies begin their proceedings in juvenile court. It will be up to a prosecutor to take the steps necessary to move the case to adult court; a judge will make the final decision.
The death of Jasmine Guevara was wanton, violent and so terribly unnecessary. It was a grown-up crime and, if police reports are correct, was aggressive and thoroughly planned, thus showing premeditation.
Considering the facts of the case in that state, Missouri got it right when it determined Bustamante should be tried as an adult.
Here in South Dakota, M.D. is, of course, innocent until proven guilty. It’s important to issue such a reminder in the sad, angry and frustrating weeks after a tragic and suspicious death.
And she is, indeed, a child.
But if authorities truly believe M.D. had an active and vital role in the violent death of a local high school student, then M.D. should stand trial as an adult.
http://www.mitchellrepublic.com/event/article/id/39079/group/Opinion/
Northern Rose:
Quote from: Wyks on December 03, 2009, 01:37:35 PM
Quote from: Northern Rose on December 03, 2009, 01:33:09 PM
Bustamante hearing cancelled
COLE COUNTY, MO. -- The status hearing for the murder suspect accused of killing Elizabeth Olten has been cancelled.
Alyssa Bustamante, 15, had a status hearing scheduled to for Dec. 7. The hearing would follow –up to see if Bustamante had a lawyer.
Now, Bustamante will be re-arraigned, with counsel, on Dec. 8, 2009 at 10:30 a.m. At the arraignment hearing, Bustamante will be handed down the indictments again and would plead guilty or not guilty.
A judge entered a not-guilty plea on behalf of Bustamante, who was certified as an adult on Nov. 18, because she did not have a lawyer present.
Bustamante appeared briefly before a Cole County judge, just hours after she had been certified to stand trial as an adult in Olten’s murder.
Bustamante is charged in the strangulation and stabbing death of Olten.
This type of proceeding normally lasts less than 5 minutes.
http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=385365
Thanks Northern Rose!
Was just going to post and ask what a status hearing is. So it's like a follow-up hearing to ensure that she has an attorney, and was cancelled since she has one?
That is my guess. And they scheduled the re-arraignment for the 8th now that she has a lawyer and can enter a plea with lawyer present.
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