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« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2009, 01:52:58 PM »

well the live stream I got is Days of Our lives..not even a soap could come up with this??
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« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2009, 01:53:51 PM »

well the live stream I got is Days of Our lives..not even a soap could come up with this??

Nope is Bold and Beautiful..
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« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2009, 01:54:24 PM »

Just wondering if anyone has considered or discussed the motive being that Alyssa did something that Elizabeth witnessed/knew about and Alyssa was trying to cover/shut her up.  PURELY SPECULATION.  Just saw the list posted of Facts vs. Rumors.  Elizabeth rumored to have called home and possibly say she was coming home and that something had happened.  Of course the graves being dug ahead of time clearly points to premeditation, but the timing of the actual murder may have been dictated by Alyssa believing Elizabeth was going to tell on her for something.

In a 15 yr old's mind, it may make sense to just say she did it to see what it felt like to kill someone to cover up anything else she might have done.  I know, its a stretch, but we are all thinking like sane adults, not lost, delusional, angry 15 year olds.  Just brainstorming, nothing more.  I want Alyssa convicted and punished to the FULLEST extent of the law, but something isn't sitting well with her "I just wanted to see what it felt like" reasoning.  SOMETHING caused her to snap.  SOMETHING caused her to choose Elizabeth.  I can't get my brain wrapped around anything less.
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« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2009, 01:55:08 PM »

TXFLAME, I think we've done pretty good working with rumors and cover ups. Bet there will he a whole lot more red on that list soon. 
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« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2009, 01:58:27 PM »

Just wondering if anyone has considered or discussed the motive being that Alyssa did something that Elizabeth witnessed/knew about and Alyssa was trying to cover/shut her up.  PURELY SPECULATION.  Just saw the list posted of Facts vs. Rumors.  Elizabeth rumored to have called home and possibly say she was coming home and that something had happened.  Of course the graves being dug ahead of time clearly points to premeditation, but the timing of the actual murder may have been dictated by Alyssa believing Elizabeth was going to tell on her for something.

In a 15 yr old's mind, it may make sense to just say she did it to see what it felt like to kill someone to cover up anything else she might have done.  I know, its a stretch, but we are all thinking like sane adults, not lost, delusional, angry 15 year olds.  Just brainstorming, nothing more.  I want Alyssa convicted and punished to the FULLEST extent of the law, but something isn't sitting well with her "I just wanted to see what it felt like" reasoning.  SOMETHING caused her to snap.  SOMETHING caused her to choose Elizabeth.  I can't get my brain wrapped around anything less.

Hard for me to get around the pre-dug graves the week before. 
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« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2009, 02:01:28 PM »

TXFLAME, I think we've done pretty good working with rumors and cover ups. Bet there will he a whole lot more red on that list soon. 

Yes u are soo right.. I predicted MOST of the list will be red!!!  Really the only things we arent sure of at this point is the possibility of help..and how the gparents reacted!!!
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« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2009, 02:04:57 PM »

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Elizabeth%20Olten/

Photos of Alyssa and Elizabeth
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« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2009, 02:06:53 PM »

In September 2007, Cook said they found that Alyssa had spent 10 days in Mid-MO Mental Health Center after a suicide attempt, and then was treated through Pathways Community Behavioral Healthcare, dealing with depression.

He said Alyssa and her family were very involved and had attended treatment regularly. She had been prescribed Prozac for her depression.
 (It certainly appears that Alyssa's grandma and grandpa tried and took an interest in Alyssa's suicide attempt and depression, and at least attempted to get help for her.)
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« Reply #28 on: November 18, 2009, 02:12:47 PM »

In September 2007, Cook said they found that Alyssa had spent 10 days in Mid-MO Mental Health Center after a suicide attempt, and then was treated through Pathways Community Behavioral Healthcare, dealing with depression.

He said Alyssa and her family were very involved and had attended treatment regularly. She had been prescribed Prozac for her depression.
 (It certainly appears that Alyssa's grandma and grandpa tried and took an interest in Alyssa's suicide attempt and depression, and at least attempted to get help for her.)

I agree that they attempted to help her by getting her couseling, however someone that could do such HORRIBLE things to a little girl could've jut been fooling the doc's and making them think she was getting better. This girl is a psychopath...and IMO there is NO rehabilitating ALYSSA BUSTAMANTE, she deserves to rot in prison for the rest of her life. I hope she is tortured in prison as well because she deserves everything that she gets for what she did to sweet Elizabeth...I'm SO disgusted with her
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« Reply #29 on: November 18, 2009, 02:14:05 PM »

TOTALLY OFF TOPIC..but would all my friends here please check out this website I built for an unidentified girl out of Texas. She has gone 30 years with no name. I need to get as many hits as possible to get the site in good search engines. I understand with all that is going on now, it maybe awhile before you all can check it out, just please book mark it..and read through the info.

http://walkercountyjanedoe1980.webs.com

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« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2009, 02:14:38 PM »


I see a pic of KB and her hubby. I wonder why we are seeing not pics of the G'parents?
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« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2009, 02:15:31 PM »

Judge ordered a plea of not guilty on her behalf as Kurt Valentine did NOT return.
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« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2009, 02:15:52 PM »

TOTALLY OFF TOPIC..but would all my friends here please check out this website I built for an unidentified girl out of Texas. She has gone 30 years with no name. I need to get as many hits as possible to get the site in good search engines. I understand with all that is going on now, it maybe awhile before you all can check it out, just please book mark it..and read through the info.

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Done. How sad is that?? 
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« Reply #33 on: November 18, 2009, 02:16:19 PM »

I know we have talked about how small Alyssa is, but did we ever determine a weight ratio between Elizabeth and Alyssa??

Just curious b/c of the strangling charge...

Was there much difference in thier heights do we know?

I believe if I remember correctly that Elizabeth was a pretty good size for a 9 yr old. JMO
Thats what i was thinking she may have been able to put up a pretty good fight, unless stabbed first, not really important know i guess just was curious, so very sad especially since she did nothing to warrant or bring this on 
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« Reply #34 on: November 18, 2009, 02:16:35 PM »

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,575590,00.html?test=latestnews

Fox is covering it, no photos of AB
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« Reply #35 on: November 18, 2009, 02:17:17 PM »

Judge ordered a plea of not guilty on her behalf as Kurt Valentine did NOT return.

One article stated he would not be returning as he was defense for Juvi court and now that it was in adult courts he would not be involved.
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« Reply #36 on: November 18, 2009, 02:17:35 PM »

Judge ordered a plea of not guilty on her behalf as Kurt Valentine did NOT return.

wow i wonder why he didnt return
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« Reply #37 on: November 18, 2009, 02:18:59 PM »

Judge ordered a plea of not guilty on her behalf as Kurt Valentine did NOT return.

One article stated he would not be returning as he was defense for Juvi court and now that it was in adult courts he would not be involved.
All I know is this is from a poster from WS who was in the courtroom, she just notified her sister with this info.
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« Reply #38 on: November 18, 2009, 02:21:17 PM »

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Mug shot will be released today. They saw the family on camera this afternoon. Alyssa's Family was behind the defense table. Alyssa is now sporting a green Cole Co. Jail jumpsuit. Alyssa did speak, answered a few questions. Entered alone, sat alone. Jan King is the public attorney she will speak to after but as of now she has no attorney. Status date Dec. 7th 
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« Reply #39 on: November 18, 2009, 02:23:52 PM »

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Mug shot will be released today. They saw the family on camera this afternoon. Alyssa's Family was behind the defense table. Alyssa is now sporting a green Cole Co. Jail jumpsuit. Alyssa did speak, answered a few questions. Entered alone, sat alone. Jan King is the public attorney she will speak to after but as of now she has no attorney. Status date Dec. 7th 
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UGHHH sounds like to me she is being set up for sympathy ..no way ever does she need sympathy IMHO All sympathy goes to Patty and family, and Elizabeth
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