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Re: Elizabeth Olten 9 yrs. old, (body found) #3
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November 18, 2009, 03:00:08 PM »
Quote from: Northern Rose on November 18, 2009, 02:32:06 PM
Grandma did run a daycare:
Kidz School Finder - Search Jefferson City Missouri Preschools ...
Karen Brooke Lomo Dr Jefferson City, Mo (573) XXX-XXXX
www.kidzschoolfinder.com/Jeffersoncitymopreschools.htm
And now I will say it. If Karen Brooke took Alyssa and her brothers and their half sister to raise, she had no business tending to somebody else's children and leaving these children so unsupervised. She knew there was a problem with Alyssa, and in the YouTubes and MySpace and other videos, we could see that they were unsupervised a lot of the time in very dangerous activities. Her husband had a pretty good job, so was it necessary for this to have happened? There was also another grown daughter (and her new husband!) in the house. It doesn't look to me, by what we found, that she was much help in watching their activities.
Sorry, but I have been sitting on my hand for too long, and I have fire coming out my ears.
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November 18, 2009, 03:02:49 PM »
JEFFERSON CITY — A judge has entered a not-guilty plea on behalf of a 15-year-old-girl charged as an adult in the strangulation and stabbing death of 9-year-old Elizabeth Olten.
Alyssa Bustamante appeared briefly before a Cole County judge Wednesday, just hours after she had been certified to stand trial as an adult in the Oct. 21 slaying.
Bustamante is charged with first-degree murder and armed criminal action and could face life in prison without parole if convicted.
She sat shackled with her hands at her waist, expressionless except for a hard swallow as the judge read the charges to her.
On Wednesday, a Missouri grand jury indicted Bustamante on a charge first-degree murder in slaying of Elizabeth Olten.
The grand jury indictment accuses Bustamante of killing Elizabeth Olten by strangling her, cutting her throat and stabbing her on Oct. 21 — the day Elizabeth went missing.
A police officer testified earlier that a 15-year-old girl told investigators she killed a 9-year-old neighbor because she wanted to know what it felt like to kill someone, and a judge ruled the teen should stand trial as an adult.
Police testified that Elizabeth Olten did nothing to provoke the attack against her, and the teenage suspect led authorities to the girl's body after they questioned her.
http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stories/2009/11/18/mo-teen-be-tried-adult-death-girl-9/
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wow. she does not look so small in that last picture. I thought Elizabeth was 60 pds? I've always thought some people who do these things must have super human strength when committing the acts they do.
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Quote from: Northern Rose on November 18, 2009, 02:58:06 PM
Quote from: Fanny Mae on November 18, 2009, 02:53:19 PM
Quote from: Northern Rose on November 18, 2009, 02:46:17 PM
Not-guilty plea for 15-year-old in Mo. slaying of 9-year-old
JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. — A judge has entered a not-guilty plea on behalf of a 15-year-old-girl charged as an adult in the strangulation and stabbing death of 9-year-old Elizabeth Olten.
Alyssa Bustamante appeared briefly before a Cole County judge today, just hours after she had been certified to stand trial as an adult in the Oct. 21 slaying.
Bustamante is charged with first-degree murder and armed criminal action and could face life in prison without parole if convicted.
She sat shackled with her hands at her waist, expressionless except for a hard swallow as the judge read the charges to her.
Earlier Wednesday, a police officer testified that Bustamante had confessed to killing Elizabeth because she wanted to know what it felt like to kill someone.
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view/20091118not-guilty_plea_for_15-year-old_in_mo_slaying_of_9-year-old/srvc=home&position=recent
Looks like it has finally hit the national news.
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Quote from: TvPolice on November 18, 2009, 02:34:18 PM
I would like to know who the second grave was dig for ?
I wonder if they were in two different area's or dug out next to each other?
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November 18, 2009, 03:06:18 PM »
http://www.ksdk.com/news/pdfs/bustamanteindictment.pdf
The indictment
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Quote from: Fanny Mae on November 18, 2009, 03:00:08 PM
Quote from: Northern Rose on November 18, 2009, 02:32:06 PM
Grandma did run a daycare:
Kidz School Finder - Search Jefferson City Missouri Preschools ...
Karen Brooke Lomo Dr Jefferson City, Mo (573) XXX-XXXX
www.kidzschoolfinder.com/Jeffersoncitymopreschools.htm
And now I will say it. If Karen Brooke took Alyssa and her brothers and their half sister to raise, she had no business tending to somebody else's children and leaving these children so unsupervised. She knew there was a problem with Alyssa, and in the YouTubes and MySpace and other videos, we could see that they were unsupervised a lot of the time in very dangerous activities. Her husband had a pretty good job, so was it necessary for this to have happened? There was also another grown daughter (and her new husband!) in the house. It doesn't look to me, by what we found, that she was much help in watching their activities.
Sorry, but I have been sitting on my hand for too long, and I have fire coming out my ears.
Bustamante had been in care of her grandmother, Karen Brooke, since 2001, and Cook said her life at home was normal and structured. She did chores and earned an allowance, and had no abnormal confrontations with her siblings.
http://www.komu.com/satellite/SatelliteRender/KOMU.com/ba8a4513-c0a8-2f11-0063-9bd94c70b769/07ae129e-80ce-0971-0113-e864f8522814
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Re: Elizabeth Olten 9 yrs. old, (body found) #3
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz1tw6pGZ0A&feature=youtube_gdata
One of her old youtube vids has been reposted
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Re: Elizabeth Olten 9 yrs. old, (body found) #3
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Quote from: fatcatlurker on November 18, 2009, 03:05:27 PM
Quote from: TvPolice on November 18, 2009, 02:34:18 PM
I would like to know who the second grave was dig for ?
I wonder if they were in two different area's or dug out next to each other?
I don't know. But if she went through with the murder of one, she surely had her eye on her next victim. I have any opinion, but I will not say. JMO
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Quote from: Txsflame on November 18, 2009, 03:06:18 PM
http://www.ksdk.com/news/pdfs/bustamanteindictment.pdf
The indictment
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Judge enters not-guilty plea on behlaf of Bustamante
A judge has entered a not-guilty plea on behalf of a 15-year-old-girl charged as an adult in the strangulation and stabbing death of 9-year-old Elizabeth Olten because she did not have a lawyer present.
Alyssa Bustamante appeared briefly before a Cole County judge, just hours after she had been certified to stand trial as an adult in Olten’s murder.
There were no cameras allowed in the court room because Bustamante did not have a lawyer present.
Bustamante was assigned a public defender by the judge.
A grand jury handed down two indictments. Bustamante was indicted for first-degree murder and armed criminal action and could face life in prison without parole if convicted.
She sat shackled with her hands at her waist, expressionless except for a hard swallow as the judge read the charges to her.
Earlier Wednesday, a police officer testified that Bustamante had confessed to killing Elizabeth because she wanted to know what it felt like to kill someone.
http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=379026
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Ok i may not be that smart when it comes to this court stuff, but what i don't get is how can someone say "not guilty" when there is evidence saying that this was basically planned by Alyssa. I just don't understand andone want to help[ me ou t???
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November 18, 2009, 03:17:03 PM »
Quote from: Fanny Mae on November 18, 2009, 03:00:08 PM
Quote from: Northern Rose on November 18, 2009, 02:32:06 PM
Grandma did run a daycare:
Kidz School Finder - Search Jefferson City Missouri Preschools ...
Karen Brooke Lomo Dr Jefferson City, Mo (573) XXX-XXXX
www.kidzschoolfinder.com/Jeffersoncitymopreschools.htm
And now I will say it. If Karen Brooke took Alyssa and her brothers and their half sister to raise, she had no business tending to somebody else's children and leaving these children so unsupervised. She knew there was a problem with Alyssa, and in the YouTubes and MySpace and other videos, we could see that they were unsupervised a lot of the time in very dangerous activities. Her husband had a pretty good job, so was it necessary for this to have happened? There was also another grown daughter (and her new husband!) in the house. It doesn't look to me, by what we found, that she was much help in watching their activities.
Sorry, but I have been sitting on my hand for too long, and I have fire coming out my ears.
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Quote from: Northern Rose on November 18, 2009, 03:12:58 PM
Judge enters not-guilty plea on behlaf of Bustamante
A judge has entered a not-guilty plea on behalf of a 15-year-old-girl charged as an adult in the strangulation and stabbing death of 9-year-old Elizabeth Olten because she did not have a lawyer present.
Alyssa Bustamante appeared briefly before a Cole County judge, just hours after she had been certified to stand trial as an adult in Olten’s murder.
There were no cameras allowed in the court room because Bustamante did not have a lawyer present.
Bustamante was assigned a public defender by the judge.
A grand jury handed down two indictments. Bustamante was indicted for first-degree murder and armed criminal action and could face life in prison without parole if convicted.
She sat shackled with her hands at her waist
, expressionless except for a hard swallow as the judge read the charges to her.
Earlier Wednesday, a police officer testified that Bustamante had confessed to killing Elizabeth because she wanted to know what it felt like to kill someone.
http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=379026
I HOPE LE there does shackes and cuffs like LE from my hometown, they "accidently" SLAM them TIGHT on the wrist... I dont know from personal experience, but have heard from many others.
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Mental health services being what they are in Missouri, my bet is this "nearly daily" evaluation was a once a week visit to a therapist and then through her church or school
No, her attorney said that the Pathway's center sent a counselor to her house most days after school. He said they would discuss everything right down to what was being cooked for dinner, and that the grandmother and rest of the family were very involved and supportive of her counseling.
(From WS, she was in the courtroom)
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Re: Elizabeth Olten 9 yrs. old, (body found) #3
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Quote from: TiskTisk on November 18, 2009, 03:07:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz1tw6pGZ0A&feature=youtube_gdata
One of her old youtube vids has been reposted
I am hoping that with her name being released, people who grabbed Alyssa's stuff off the net before it was scrubbed clean, will now be reposting it .
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Quote from: no rose colored glasses on November 18, 2009, 03:20:21 PM
Jodibug
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Originally Posted by Bibliophile
Mental health services being what they are in Missouri, my bet is this "nearly daily" evaluation was a once a week visit to a therapist and then through her church or school
No, her attorney said that the Pathway's center sent a counselor to her house most days after school. He said they would discuss everything right down to what was being cooked for dinner, and that the grandmother and rest of the family were very involved and supportive of her counseling.
(From WS, she was in the courtroom)
Thanks. So she had good grades, was good at deceiving the counsellor, and had this all planned out. There is no way they can say she did not know what she was doing. This was planned in spades.
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Quote from: Northern Rose on November 18, 2009, 03:20:29 PM
Quote from: TiskTisk on November 18, 2009, 03:07:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz1tw6pGZ0A&feature=youtube_gdata
One of her old youtube vids has been reposted
I am hoping that with her name being released, people who grabbed Alyssa's stuff off the net before it was scrubbed clean, will now be reposting it .
http://www.youtube.com/user/Archivist2001#p/u/3/JAIJ5VUCc5U
this youtube user posted all of her original videos
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Quote from: TiskTisk on November 18, 2009, 03:07:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz1tw6pGZ0A&feature=youtube_gdata
One of her old youtube vids has been reposted
I had never seen this video... thanks for posting this. Even in this one, she is wanting her brothers to get hurt.... she obvioulsy likes seeing people in pain.....
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Quote from: missbrandy on November 18, 2009, 03:16:45 PM
Ok i may not be that smart when it comes to this court stuff, but what i don't get is how can someone say "not guilty" when there is evidence saying that this was basically planned by Alyssa. I just don't understand andone want to help[ me ou t???
It is just routinely done to go forward with trial. They hope there will be some kind of evidence to get the off the hook brought up at trial. That is my non-leagleeze (sp?) version.
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