Shooting at Ft. Hood Texas 11/05/09 13 dead, 43 wounded-(Murder Charges)

[Heart]

Is anyone watching Shashonna Johnson on Larry King.  Unbelievable!

My tv will never go on CNN again! 

What were they saying?

Larry King had Shashonna (sp?), Dr. Phil and a jag officer that served in Iraq on.  The jag officer was telling it like it is, and Shashonna and Dr Phil was going like the poor man (Hasan) has to sit and listen to the soldiers problems and that he is human and the jag officer should not compare him to Asan Akbar. And Shoshanna was rolling her eyes and working her neck. 

 

yea, I think they decided to hurry up and get her off the screen.

[crazybabyborg]

This guy is no novice in knowing how to access resources when you begin to have homicidal thoughts. He's a Psychiatrist for the love of God! He knows the symptoms of the onset of mental problems and you don't become a Psychiatrist by being stupid. He made some deliberate choices and there are 12 dead and 31 wounded because of them. I hope he fries!

It makes it hard to use logic and reason when a person uses religion as his/her justification. If he was terrified of being deployed and possibly being targeted by the vicious enemy over there and then he swings the argument around in his mind until he decides that he can't bear arms against his brothers and that it's the fault of the govt. here, recipe for murder is born.

Hi Mizjay! I love seeing your dancing monkeys!   

I hold this guy to a really high standard. Shrinks have to be MDs first, and he's too smart not to realize an option of simply going awol, and going to live with his "brothers". Why not? He'd gotten all his training here, probably paid for by our tax dollers, so moooove on to where those skills can be used to bite the hand that fed you.

I hate the thought that this bastard ever had access to our wounded troops at Walter Reed. They deserve so much better.

CBB   girl, I am so mad about this........ I think he was just a chickenchit coward who was scared to be harrassed by his own kinsmen, in a country where you can't hire a lawyer to "make em stop it", so instead of being grateful for the free rides he probably got here ( and I doubt anybody FORCED him to enlist), he kills anybody in sight

I need to stomp it out an hour or two with your monkeys! I'd feel so much better!   

[Fanny Mae]

CNN reporting that Hasan was giving away his furniture this morning in his neighborhood and handing out Korans.

He should have just shot himself while he was at it. 

[MuffyBee]

I don't know how one shooter with two 9mm handguns could shoot 43 people. The clips only hold about 10 shells, and he would have to stop and put in new clips. These were trained military people he was shooting at. This makes no sense.

Lt General Cone was hogtied by what he could say. You could tell he was ANGRY. If this doesn't start a military revolt against O, I don't know what will. There is no way this is right.b

While I am at it, I may as well say I am very worried about Glenn Beck. He is hospitalized with what has been said is an appendectomy. I sure hope he has armed guards on his hospital door.

Did I hear correctly that the female civilian LE that shot him was still alive too? 

I got this opinion from a very close and reliable source:

"One firearm can have many magazine capacities, depending on which magazine you insert into it.  If he's using a standard Army hand gun the Beretta M9  (as in 9 millimeter, the standard handgun for the armed forces) then that comes from the factory with a 15 round magazine, and they make 20 rounders for it from the factory.   Let's assume he's using the standard 15 round magazines and that gives him 30 bullets total, and that's just with the two guns.  The Army generally only stocks 15 round magazines, so lets assume that's what he was using.   There are also after market magazines with capacity up to 32 rounds, but they tend to be unreliable and stick out too far. 

Assuming that again, he's using the standard military load, this is what's known as full metal jacket or fmj.  FMJ ammunition tends to take the path of least resistance through soft tissue, and penetrates much more than a self-defense hollow point.  Also the 9mm military load that the U.S. and Nato uses is loaded extremely hot for that calibre.  These factors contribute to over penetration as a possibility, and the tight crowd also contributed.  When we talk about over penetration we're talking about the bullet striking the initial target then taking the path of least resistance through the soft tissue and assuming it doesn't encounter some hard obstacle, exiting out the other side.  This bullet, once it exits, still retains quite a bit of kinetic energy and this can easily be enough to kill or wound someone else.  This may be why we had almost two thirds more wounded then dead" 

[MuffyBee]

CNN reporting that Hasan was giving away his furniture this morning in his neighborhood and handing out Korans.

He should have just shot himself while he was at it. 

I thought the same thing, Fanny.  He should have just shot himself-problem solved. (and not shot anyone else)

[Fanny Mae]

I don't know how one shooter with two 9mm handguns could shoot 43 people. The clips only hold about 10 shells, and he would have to stop and put in new clips. These were trained military people he was shooting at. This makes no sense.

Lt General Cone was hogtied by what he could say. You could tell he was ANGRY. If this doesn't start a military revolt against O, I don't know what will. There is no way this is right.b

While I am at it, I may as well say I am very worried about Glenn Beck. He is hospitalized with what has been said is an appendectomy. I sure hope he has armed guards on his hospital door.

Did I hear correctly that the female civilian LE that shot him was still alive too? 

I got this opinion from a very close and reliable source:

"One firearm can have many magazine capacities, depending on which magazine you insert into it.  If he's using a standard Army hand gun the Beretta M9  (as in 9 millimeter, the standard handgun for the armed forces) then that comes from the factory with a 15 round magazine, and they make 20 rounders for it from the factory.   Let's assume he's using the standard 15 round magazines and that gives him 30 bullets total, and that's just with the two guns.  The Army generally only stocks 15 round magazines, so lets assume that's what he was using.   There are also after market magazines with capacity up to 32 rounds, but they tend to be unreliable and stick out too far. 

Assuming that again, he's using the standard military load, this is what's known as full metal jacket or fmj.  FMJ ammunition tends to take the path of least resistance through soft tissue, and penetrates much more than a self-defense hollow point.  Also the 9mm military load that the U.S. and Nato uses is loaded extremely hot for that calibre.  These factors contribute to over penetration as a possibility, and the tight crowd also contributed.  When we talk about over penetration we're talking about the bullet striking the initial target then taking the path of least resistance through the soft tissue and assuming it doesn't encounter some hard obstacle, exiting out the other side.  This bullet, once it exits, still retains quite a bit of kinetic energy and this can easily be enough to kill or wound someone else.  This may be why we had almost two thirds more wounded then dead" 

Makes sense. Have you heard from your sister and brother???? (Fingers crossed for luck!)

[mizjay]

CBB~   let's do it.       Margaritas in the blender, nailing some taps on the fellas feet so we can make LOTSA NOISE

[crazybabyborg]

Good information, Muffy! Thank you for sharing and I'm glad you posted. You and yours are all OK, right?

[Fanny Mae]

CNN reporting that Hasan was giving away his furniture this morning in his neighborhood and handing out Korans.

He should have just shot himself while he was at it. 

I thought the same thing, Fanny.  He should have just shot himself-problem solved. (and not shot anyone else)

I would like to think he was being water boarded as we speak. But oh yeah. O is president. I might start throwing rotten tomatoes again.   

[mizjay]

CNN reporting that Hasan was giving away his furniture this morning in his neighborhood and handing out Korans.

He should have just shot himself while he was at it. 

 Silly woman, that would've too easy. Not the jihadway

[crazybabyborg]

CBB~   let's do it.       Margaritas in the blender, nailing some taps on the fellas feet so we can make LOTSA NOISE

It's a date!  ( Hope your floors are solid......... I've put on weight! )   

[Heart]

Pvt J. Hammond Says Dr. Nidal Malik Hasan Helped Him Today

http://spotlight.vitals.com/2009/11/pvt-j-hammond-says-dr-nidal-malik-hasan-helped-him-today/

[mizjay]

 Does anyone know if he had a bulletproof vest on? just wondering

[crazybabyborg]

YEP! There it is! Just reported.............. ALL expense paid education. Full 4 years of Medical School and a 2 year residency. He was SELECTED to participate in the program in Bethesda.

 

[mizjay]

CBB~   let's do it.       Margaritas in the blender, nailing some taps on the fellas feet so we can make LOTSA NOISE

It's a date!  ( Hope your floors are solid......... I've put on weight! )   

[Fanny Mae]

CNN reporting that Hasan was giving away his furniture this morning in his neighborhood and handing out Korans.

He should have just shot himself while he was at it. 

 Silly woman, that would've too easy. Not the jihadway

We heard earlier that he was treated for alcoholism. So I guess the 72 virgins are out anyway. 

[Fanny Mae]

Pvt J. Hammond Says Dr. Nidal Malik Hasan Helped Him Today

http://spotlight.vitals.com/2009/11/pvt-j-hammond-says-dr-nidal-malik-hasan-helped-him-today/

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Although he was hard to understand (strong accent) this doctor helped me come to terms with my conscientious objector status.While I am still not thrilled about being deployed to Iraq, I at least understand how doing so to protect my fellow soldiers is a good thing.

Too bad Hasan didn't think protecting his fellow soldiers was a good thing. 

[crazybabyborg]

CNN reporting that Hasan was giving away his furniture this morning in his neighborhood and handing out Korans.

He should have just shot himself while he was at it. 

 Silly woman, that would've too easy. Not the jihadway

We heard earlier that he was treated for alcoholism. So I guess the 72 virgins are out anyway. 

Did you ever wonder where all these virgins are supposed to come from? I mean they'd only qualify one time, right? It's not like they're recyclable or anything!

[mizjay]

Pvt J. Hammond Says Dr. Nidal Malik Hasan Helped Him Today

http://spotlight.vitals.com/2009/11/pvt-j-hammond-says-dr-nidal-malik-hasan-helped-him-today/

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Although he was hard to understand (strong accent) this doctor helped me come to terms with my conscientious objector status.While I am still not thrilled about being deployed to Iraq, I at least understand how doing so to protect my fellow soldiers is a good thing.

Too bad Hasan didn't think protecting his fellow soldiers was a good thing. 

It apparently was his fellow muslim soldiers of allah that he chose to protect.

[Tevye]

Pvt J. Hammond Says Dr. Nidal Malik Hasan Helped Him Today

http://spotlight.vitals.com/2009/11/pvt-j-hammond-says-dr-nidal-malik-hasan-helped-him-today/

I call BS on this posting. The shooter (no longer deserves the honor of being called either Doctor or military) was raised in Virginia!!! I know they have some accent, but not a "hard to understand" one! Baloney.