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« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2009, 01:08:40 PM »

Posted at GM by GBMW:

Part of online Diary of Peter R. de Vries today:

Ik ben vandaag druk met de uitzending van aanstaande zondag, waar we weer eens aandacht besteden aan Joran van der Sloot. Er gaat bijna geen dag voorbij of iemand vraagt wel aan me hoe het toch met de hem en de zaak van Natalee Holloway staat. Welnu, daar komt zondag een antwoord op, met heel interessante beelden!

Today I'm busy with the broadcast of this coming Sunday which will address Joran van der Sloot again. Hardly a day goes by without someone asking me what's going on with him and Natalee Holloway's case. Well, you'll get an answer this coming Sunday, with very interesting footage!

 

Thank you Klaas.

1.  Considering GBMW's position regarding the non-involvement of Paulus van der Sloot and the Kalpoes in the happenings encompassing the morning of May 30, 2005 ...

2.  Considering GBMW's position regarding what others perceive as a corrupt investigation that has prevent justice from prevailing for Natalee Holloway ...

3.  Considering GBMW's position regarding who really should be to blame in regards that hardship suffered by the Aruban people as a result of the boycott ...

4.  Consider GBMW's position regarding a troll by the name of Charierat ...

 

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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 -
« Reply #753 on: May 07, 2008, 03:54:26 PM »


But I don't think Paulus was around the moment when something happened to Natalee....I believe Joran was around though. What did Paulus do that night according to you that would implicate him so much? You don't think he would have protected Joran no matter if he (Paulus) was involved or not?

Paulus has helped Joran to protect him from the legal consequences....yes. And because of this Paulus & Joran will be protected....Joran for his actions that night & Paulus for his actions after that night....since Paulus has got info on other people they will never allow for the complete truth ever to come out of what happened that night and how they tried to cover everything up. That's how I look at it at the moment....

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2819.msg379756#msg379756


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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 -
« Reply #264 on: May 05, 2008, 11:42:15 AM »


I'm also not that convinced about the involvement of the Kalpoe Brothers or the huge cover up as most SM posters are. Neither do I believe that Peter, Joran & Patrick worked together...that the confessions how was a cover up...and I'm not for a boycott.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2819.msg378915#msg378915


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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 -
« Reply #821 on: June 18, 2008, 05:28:07 PM »


I don't think the Dutch & Aruban officials are that corrupt.....I do believe they are doing the best they can. Of course not all of them...dishonest people are everywhere.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2918.msg390863#msg390863


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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #751 5/8 -
« Reply #815 on: May 15, 2008, 10:01:20 AM »


Beth hasn't been an angel in this case....100% understandable and I don't blame her...but it doesn't mean innocent people didn't get hurt enormously because of her.

I'm getting the feeling I'll have to go to RU and give a big fat apology for defending this forum.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2830.msg381577#msg381577


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Re: THE KALPOE'S INVOLVEMENT
« Reply #126 on: June 19, 2008, 12:05:48 AM »


Kick Charlierat in his nuts? Sorry...I like him so your thanks is a bit premature.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2823.msg391009#msg391009


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Re: THE KALPOE'S INVOLVEMENT
« Reply #128 on: June 19, 2008, 12:57:23 PM »


Why would I dislike him (Charlierat)? I don't know him that well and I don't always agree with his posts or the way he posts but he's been nothing but kind to me.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2823.msg391175#msg391175
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« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2009, 01:22:30 PM »

Janet, are you thinking those are GB's words?  That it is GB who is working on the show?

Because those aren't her words, those are Peter's words.

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« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2009, 01:24:38 PM »

Thanks jen.

What a relief!!

Janet
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« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2009, 01:28:47 PM »

It is all Dutch to me.

 

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donderdag 10 december 2009, 09:44 uur
Peters DagboekJulio P., piloot des doods, of roddelslachtoffer? & beelden Joran van der Sloot

http://www.peterrdevries.nl/cover/julio-p.-piloot-des-doods-of-roddelslachtoffer-beelden-joran-van-der-sloot/
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« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2009, 02:09:16 PM »

I truly hope that Peter has something earthshattering to expose about Joran.

If not, I am still grateful to Peter for keeping Joran's name in the news as the prime suspect in Natalee's death.

That is something that nobody else is doing these days.
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« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2009, 02:09:35 PM »

Posted at GM by GBMW:

Part of online Diary of Peter R. de Vries today:

Ik ben vandaag druk met de uitzending van aanstaande zondag, waar we weer eens aandacht besteden aan Joran van der Sloot. Er gaat bijna geen dag voorbij of iemand vraagt wel aan me hoe het toch met de hem en de zaak van Natalee Holloway staat. Welnu, daar komt zondag een antwoord op, met heel interessante beelden!


Today I'm busy with the broadcast of this coming Sunday which will address Joran van der Sloot again. Hardly a day goes by without someone asking me what's going on with him and Natalee Holloway's case. Well, you'll get an answer this coming Sunday, with very interesting footage!

Thank you Klaas! 
I appreciate GBMW's translation and think it is encouraging that people still hold such an interest in Natalee that a day rarely passes without someone asking Peter about it.   
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« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2009, 02:15:43 PM »

Somebody from SBS Broadcasting in NL is interested in what monkeys have to say!

Isn't that Peter's company?

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« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2009, 02:15:47 PM »

I truly hope that Peter has something earthshattering to expose about Joran.

If not, I am still grateful to Peter for keeping Joran's name in the news as the prime suspect in Natalee's death.

That is something that nobody else is doing these days.

I agree! 

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« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2009, 02:19:23 PM »

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Thank you Magnolia!

Think I will take the opportunity to thank Peter and wish him and his family
Seasons Greetings! 
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« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2009, 02:35:27 PM »

Thanks jen.

What a relief!!

Janet

You're welcome! 
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« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2009, 02:41:08 PM »

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Disposed - Patrick vander Eem

 
Chapter 18:  ... The vacation ended far too soon and there I was back in the Netherlands.  Joran called me and said 'Hey, are we going to do something?  Am I going to see you?'  So I had arranged to see him on January 29.
 
The Range Rover we had used was brought back because apparently the place the crime show rented it from had sold it.  The gave us one that was, to say the least, different.  The slick black interior was now brown for a start.  How the hell was I going to explain this away to Joran?  I could always tell him that they were pimping my ride and this was a loaner.
 
This trip I had to focus on how Natalee died.
 
Daury?  Was that really his name or had Joran made that up to protect the real person who helped him?  I knew I had to stick to the script as much as I could this time.
 
... That night we hit the casino and the red light district in Arnhem.  It was really late when I decided to take him home we ran into a police checkpoint on the way out of the red light district.
 
I stopped the way I should and the officer asks for my driver's licence.  He asks if the car is mine and I say it's a rental because mine is in the shop.  Then he wants to see the paper work.  The rental agreement is listed to Endemol.  So I'm afraid the copy will say 'So you work for Endemol' with Joran sitting next to me.  I quickly step out of the car to talk with the police officer.
 
Another officer comes over and we all talk nicely and it gets straightened out.  No problems.  They let me go on my way.  Who knows, when they checked my documents they got a big 'leave this car alone' on their screen.

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« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2009, 02:43:11 PM »

Yes, Peter works for Endemol.  I'm not sure if SBS owns Endemol?  Or if they collaborate on projects?  I haven 't looked into it.
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« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2009, 02:54:33 PM »

I truly hope that Peter has something earthshattering to expose about Joran.

If not, I am still grateful to Peter for keeping Joran's name in the news as the prime suspect in Natalee's death.

That is something that nobody else is doing these days.


I agree Magnolia, I'm grateful to Peter DeVries too!  And I hope to goodness that whoever was interested from SBS Broadcasting missed all the negativity and speculation about him that has been posted time after time over the past few months.  If they didn't miss it hopefully they looked around enough to see that we all don't see things that way.

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« Reply #33 on: December 10, 2009, 03:00:30 PM »

2008 INTERNATIONAL EMMY® AWARDS WINNERS FOR NEWS AND CURRENT AFFAIRS CATEGORIES ANNOUNCED

Dutch crime reporter, Peter R. de Vries’ undercover camera report on the Natalee Holloway case, produced by SBS Broadcasting B.V/Endemol Entertainment won the Current Affairs category. De Vries investigated the disappearance and possible murder of a young American in Aruba.

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« Reply #34 on: December 10, 2009, 03:03:41 PM »

Yes, Peter works for Endemol.  I'm not sure if SBS owns Endemol?  Or if they collaborate on projects?  I haven 't looked into it.

Endermol is the production company and SBS is the broadcast company of the same operation.

That's how I read it.
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« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2009, 03:06:12 PM »

I truly hope that Peter has something earthshattering to expose about Joran.

If not, I am still grateful to Peter for keeping Joran's name in the news as the prime suspect in Natalee's death.

That is something that nobody else is doing these days.


I agree Magnolia, I'm grateful to Peter DeVries too!  And I hope to goodness that whoever was interested from SBS Broadcasting missed all the negativity and speculation about him that has been posted time after time over the past few months.  If they didn't miss it hopefully they looked around enough to see that we all don't see things that way.



SBS broadcasting has been around for quite sometime..I think you're selling them short TM.I believe they're aware of much more then we think!Time will tell what they choose to do with the information they gather....JMOO
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« Reply #36 on: December 10, 2009, 03:08:20 PM »

Yes, Peter works for Endemol.  I'm not sure if SBS owns Endemol?  Or if they collaborate on projects?  I haven 't looked into it.

Endermol is the production company and SBS is the broadcast company of the same operation.

That's how I read it.

Yep I think you're right.

So likely it was Peter himself, or a researcher of his.

I'd personally like to shake that man's hand.  Peter has done so much for Natalee and her family, and it seems he's not letting go anytime soon!

The measure of Peace he afforded Beth with his backing and airing of Patrick's project with Joran I'm sure is immeasurable for her.

Peter DeVries is a rare hero in this tragedy, and my Thanks go out to him!!
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« Reply #37 on: December 10, 2009, 03:12:02 PM »

Yes, Peter works for Endemol.  I'm not sure if SBS owns Endemol?  Or if they collaborate on projects?  I haven 't looked into it.

Endermol is the production company and SBS is the broadcast company of the same operation.

That's how I read it.

Yep I think you're right.

So likely it was Peter himself, or a researcher of his.

I'd personally like to shake that man's hand.  Peter has done so much for Natalee and her family, and it seems he's not letting go anytime soon!

The measure of Peace he afforded Beth with his backing and airing of Patrick's project with Joran I'm sure is immeasurable for her.

Peter DeVries is a rare hero in this tragedy, and my Thanks go out to him!!



I totally agree!
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« Reply #38 on: December 10, 2009, 03:12:22 PM »

Magnolia - Thank you for keeping your eye out.

There is much to be learned by watching that little meter.  And oh so much of it can be greatly encouraging and insightful!!
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« Reply #39 on: December 10, 2009, 03:14:07 PM »

Another thing that peeked my interest many moons ago was why,someone from Venezuela,would be interested in Bastibro.......
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