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« Reply #800 on: December 21, 2009, 07:40:22 PM »

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I still do not see anything that makes me think that Eric Williams was a legimate FBI or DEA agent.

I think Carmen Adams was talking about the five agents that were sent after the Mountain Brook group arrived.

I thought Charles Croes has said that a business acquaintance(Ruffner Page) had contacted him about some phone calls
and a missing girl before Beth and the group on the plane arrived on the island.


Beth said: he was a legit DEA agent and was interviewed by 2 FBI guys
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« Reply #801 on: December 21, 2009, 07:56:32 PM »

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I still do not see anything that makes me think that Eric Williams was a legimate FBI or DEA agent.

I think Carmen Adams was talking about the five agents that were sent after the Mountain Brook group arrived.

I thought Charles Croes has said that a business acquaintance(Ruffner Page) had contacted him about some phone calls
and a missing girl before Beth and the group on the plane arrived on the island.


Beth said: he was a legit DEA agent and was interviewed by 2 FBI guys



OK!!!  I will believe you.
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« Reply #802 on: December 21, 2009, 09:04:16 PM »

TM!!!

I found this much......

Glenda Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 10:08 am   

iquitos wrote:


glenda: One of my American neighbors was killed with one bullet while taking the trash out. His family left the island withing 2 hours of his death. There was no investigation made public, not even initials.

He was DEA.

Could this be the same guy? His family was probably in Quito.

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No, not the same guy. I'm refering to something that happened in the mid 90s. 


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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #803 on: December 21, 2009, 09:40:42 PM »

Hello Good Monkeys...Hope everyone is getting ready to enjoy a Merry Christmas with family and friends... an angelic monkey
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« Reply #804 on: December 21, 2009, 09:50:14 PM »

I'm probably off base here.....but I thought I read somewhere that a DEA agent (Eric Williams) went missing in Iran sometime in 2006/2007 and hasn't been found/accounted for by Iran....
I thought at the time that it was one more potential link to Natalee's disappearance that went "poof"...
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« Reply #805 on: December 21, 2009, 10:19:00 PM »

I'm probably off base here.....but I thought I read somewhere that a DEA agent (Eric Williams) went missing in Iran sometime in 2006/2007 and hasn't been found/accounted for by Iran....
I thought at the time that it was one more potential link to Natalee's disappearance that went "poof"...

It was Robert Levinson that went missing in Iran...I thought there was a link to Eric Williams? They were both FBI and/or DEA...
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« Reply #806 on: December 21, 2009, 10:27:28 PM »

Robert Levinson, Missing in Iran Since 3/8/07
http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=754&highlight=Levinson
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« Reply #807 on: December 21, 2009, 10:27:40 PM »

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« Reply #808 on: December 21, 2009, 10:40:22 PM »

BillB...

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From clinching playoff berth to AFC West Champs.....
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« Reply #809 on: December 21, 2009, 10:41:27 PM »

Nut44x4....I must be slipping.....I thought there was a link to our eric Williams...
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« Reply #810 on: December 21, 2009, 10:44:31 PM »

Hello Good Monkeys...Hope everyone is getting ready to enjoy a Merry Christmas with family and friends... an angelic monkey

Hi billb!  Sorry...been on the phone!      

Not quite ready, but I'm getting there!   
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #811 on: December 21, 2009, 10:53:30 PM »

Hello Good Monkeys...Hope everyone is getting ready to enjoy a Merry Christmas with family and friends... an angelic monkey

Hi billb!  Sorry...been on the phone!      

Not quite ready, but I'm getting there!   
Glad to hear your getting there TM..While ready your posts on your Christmas challenges getting ready, I can't help but think of my bride going through them too...
I'm not a good helper at Christmas...
I hope your family appreciates you as much as my family (and me) appreciates my brides efforts.....
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« Reply #812 on: December 21, 2009, 11:03:05 PM »

Hello Good Monkeys...Hope everyone is getting ready to enjoy a Merry Christmas with family and friends... an angelic monkey

Hi billb!  Sorry...been on the phone!      

Not quite ready, but I'm getting there!   
Glad to hear your getting there TM..While ready your posts on your Christmas challenges getting ready, I can't help but think of my bride going through them too...
I'm not a good helper at Christmas...
I hope your family appreciates you as much as my family (and me) appreciates my brides efforts.....


Thanks billb, that's really nice of you!  Hubby went with me shopping a couple times over the weekend...yes, I forced him to go!  He at least helped with the parking and loading/unloading!  And I do think he appreciates that I usually do it all, he let me pick where we went out for dinner afterwards.
 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #813 on: December 21, 2009, 11:43:40 PM »

 

Does that mean what I think it means?  (One brother of Joran in custody in U.S. but for another case?)

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till still have one apparently one brother of joran close at merca but for another caso.



Different translators give different results but may be worth checking into! 


http://www.diario.aw/2009/12/masha-poco-interes-pa-busca-homber-perdi/

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Masha Poco Interes Pa Busca Homber Perdi

Publication: Dialuna, 21 December 2009. Categoria: Policial

ORANJESTAD.(AAN);Masha poco interes tabata tin segun informe, pa a forma un grupo grandi pa busca e anciano cu ta perde pa algun dia caba.

Polisnan, Cruz Cora y poco voluntario a participa  na e accion pa sa paradero di Laurentsz  Rock.

Ayera tambe a sigui cu a buskeda cu e speranza pa localize.

Ta trata di un cuidadano di basta edad.

Mientras tanto  te ainda no a tende tampoco a localiza e varios otro persona cu ta perdi. Entre otro Jose  Herrera pa varios luna caba ningun hende sa di su paradero.

Tambe segun otro informe Manuel Vicencio Tromp luna pasa dia 27 di November a hasi dos aña cu Manuel a sali for di su cas situa den West straat, aparentemente  pa bay hasi un diligencia y desde e dia ey e no a bolbe cas mas.

Tambe e señora Judith Martinus pa basta aña caba el a desaparece, ni su auto a wordo localiza  Tur e casonan aki te ainda ta keda un misterio y mester keda haya atencion.

Ta increibel cu riba un isla chikito asina, tin hende ta desaparece y cu no tin un solo alma sa of duna tip di oro pa por soluciona e sufrimento di nan sernan keri.

Tur e casonan  menciona mester lanta un team special pa saca mas dato’s y bay mas profundo relaciona cu nan paradero.

Por ultimo e caso Natalee Holliway tampoco oficialmente no a wak luz di dia.

E caso aki tambe a keda un misterio tanto riba tereno local como internacionalmente masha atencion negativo e caso aki a haya.

A detene, a sera,  a laga bay, a bolbe detene sospechoso, a graba secretamente nada di tur esaki no a yuda pa saca e berdad unda e mucha aki a keda.

Te ainda tin un aparentemente un brother di Joran sera na Merca pero pa otro caso.

Apesar cu lo dura siman, luna, hasta aña, un dia lo por tin claridad relaciona un of mas di esnan perdi.

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Papiamentu translation:

very some interest for busca man perdi

publication: monday, 21 december 2009. categoria: policial

oranjestad.(aan);masha some interest was have according informe, for owing to form one are big for busca the anciano cu is lose for some day end.

polisnan, cruz cora y some voluntario owing to participa at the accion for know paradero of laurentsz rock.

yesterday also owing to follow cu owing to buskeda cu the speranza for localize.

is deal of one cuidadano of enough edad.

all the time till still not owing to hear niether owing to localiza the several another person cu is perdi. among another jose herrera for several month end none person know of his paradero.

also according another informe manuel vicencio tromp month happen day 27 of november owing to make two year cu manuel owing to leave for of his cas situa in west straat, apparently for bay make one diligencia y by the day ey the not owing to go back cas more.

also the madam judith martinus for enough year end past owing to desaparece, neither his car owing to wordo localiza all the casonan here till still is stay one enigma y have to stay achieve atencion.

is increibel cu on one island diminutive so, have person is desaparece y cu not have one sun soul know or give tip of gold for can soluciona the sufrimento of they sernan keri.

all the casonan menciona have to arise one team special for saca more dato’s y bay more deep relaciona cu they paradero.

can ultimo the caso natalee holliway niether oficialmente not owing to look at luz of day. the caso here also owing to stay one enigma tanto on territory local because; internacionalmente very atencion negative the caso here owing to achieve. owing to detene, owing to close, owing to let bay, owing to go back detene sospechoso, owing to graba secretamente nothing of all this not owing to help for saca the berdad where the child here owing to stay. till still have one apparently one brother of joran close at merca but for another caso.

despite cu will last week, month, even year, one day will can have claridad relaciona one or more of esnan perdi.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #814 on: December 22, 2009, 01:37:51 AM »





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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #815 on: December 22, 2009, 07:50:04 AM »

Nut44x4....I must be slipping.....I thought there was a link to our eric Williams...

We have discussed him in depth many times, but I don't think we have a thread here just for him. (I am not sure if that is what you mean). Our Who's Who mentions very little:
WILLIAMS, Eric - DEA agent on Aruba
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=204.msg33347#msg33347

Scanning SM w/ a search provides many areas of discussion of him. I'll post a few...there are literally hundreds.

« Reply #609 on: November 18, 2008
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4129.msg547552#msg547552

Reply #209 on: April 13, 2008
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2784.msg373364#msg373364

« Reply #328 on: May 10, 2007
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1131.msg157254#msg157254

Reply #976 on: January 29, 2008
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2539.msg333818#msg333818

Reply #301 on: January 31, 2008
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2548.msg334311#msg334311
Link to Eric Williams discussion from early December. It was discussed over quite a few pages from the evening into the next morning. Joran mentions U.S. agencies many times in his book and PVs. Paulus mentions him twice in PVs.…IMO that book is his way of telling that he has the ‘dirt’ on them.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2417.400

Reply #919 on: April 23, 2008
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2793.msg376583#msg376583

Reply #129 on: October 27, 2006
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=480.msg65691#msg65691

I could do this for a week straight and still not have them all, lmao. I guess I am not sure of what you are looking for.... ??


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« Reply #816 on: December 22, 2009, 10:04:53 AM »

Nut44x4....I must be slipping.....I thought there was a link to our eric Williams...

We have discussed him in depth many times, but I don't think we have a thread here just for him. (I am not sure if that is what you mean). Our Who's Who mentions very little:
WILLIAMS, Eric - DEA agent on Aruba
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=204.msg33347#msg33347

Scanning SM w/ a search provides many areas of discussion of him. I'll post a few...there are literally hundreds.

« Reply #609 on: November 18, 2008
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4129.msg547552#msg547552

Reply #209 on: April 13, 2008
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2784.msg373364#msg373364

« Reply #328 on: May 10, 2007
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1131.msg157254#msg157254

Reply #976 on: January 29, 2008
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2539.msg333818#msg333818

Reply #301 on: January 31, 2008
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2548.msg334311#msg334311
Link to Eric Williams discussion from early December. It was discussed over quite a few pages from the evening into the next morning. Joran mentions U.S. agencies many times in his book and PVs. Paulus mentions him twice in PVs.…IMO that book is his way of telling that he has the ‘dirt’ on them.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2417.400

Reply #919 on: April 23, 2008
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2793.msg376583#msg376583

Reply #129 on: October 27, 2006
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=480.msg65691#msg65691

I could do this for a week straight and still not have them all, lmao. I guess I am not sure of what you are looking for.... ??



Nut44x4....Thanks for looking...
My mistake...I thought there was a connection to Eric Williams and Robert Levinson someway...But probably not.....
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« Reply #818 on: December 22, 2009, 11:31:16 AM »


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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #819 on: December 22, 2009, 11:39:26 AM »

http://www.diario.aw/2009/12/recepcion-na-honor-di-man-and-woman-of-the-year-2009/

Original text:

Recepcion Na Honor Di Man And Woman Of The Year 2009

Publication: Diamars, 22 December 2009. Categoria: General

ORANJESTAD(AAN)– Na residencia di Sr. Jossy Mansur, director di DIARIO y Sra. Nuhad Mansur, a tuma lugar ayera anochi e tradicional recepcion na honor di Man and Woman of the Year .
Prome Ministro Sr. Mike Eman y Ministro di Cultura Sra. Michelle Hooyboer-Winklaar ta e personahenan cu e aña aki a ricibi e honor aki.
 
Durante e recepcion tur dos a ricibi nan respectivo plaquette relaciona cu nan eleccion  di parti gerencia y staff di redaccion di DIARIO. E fotonan ta di e recepcion ayera anochi.

Papiamentu translation:

recepcion at honor of hand and woman or the year 2009

publication: tuesday, 22 december 2009. categoria: general

oranjestad(aan)– at residencia of sr. jossy mansur, director of daily paper y sra. nuhad mansur, did take lugar yesterday night the tradicional recepcion at honor of hand and woman or the year come across. first ministro sr. mike eman y ministro of cultura sra. michelle hooyboer- winklaar is the personahenan cu the year here owing to ricibi the honor here. during the recepcion all two owing to ricibi they respectivo plaquette relaciona cu they eleccion of part gerencia y staff of redaccion of daily paper. the fotonan is of the recepcion yesterday night.











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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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