Natalee Case Discussion #827 12/9/09 - 1/28/10

[2NJSons_Mom]

Truth & Justice for Natalee!

[texasmom]

It's great to see you Lifesong!  I hope all is well!   

[Lifesong]

Hi Texasmom!   

[2NJSons_Mom]

 

Hi, Lifesong.  Good to see you & hope all is well.

[2NJSons_Mom]

  

Has anyone seen or heard from hotping??  She hasn't been logged in for a while and we surely hope she's okay.  Miss her.

Name:  hotping
Posts:  3740 (4.764 per day)
Position:  Scared Monkey
Date Registered:  November 28, 2007, 10:54:27 PM
Last Active:  December 25, 2009, 01:43:15 AM

[Lifesong]

Hi, Lifesong.  Good to see you & hope all is well.

Happy Birthday, 2NJ!  And happy belated to San!

Thought I'd better drop this off now in case I'm not around tomorrow...   

[Lifesong]

(continued)

(Tom Anelli, Criminal Defense Attorney) He’s changed his story so many times that the Prosecutor and the Judge in this case cannot believe anything that is said.

(Bryan Burrough, Vanity Fair)  The history of crime is full of crimes like this, where everyone is reasonably certain they know what happened; the problem is proving it.

THE SUSPECTS ARE STILL AT LARGE, AND THE CASE IS STILL OFFICIALLY OPEN.
FOR THE PEOPLE OF ARUBA IT HAS CAUSED LASTING CONTROVERSY AND HARDSHIP.

(Julia Renfro)  The media represented Aruba in a very very bad light.  And Americans were outraged, and not just Americans; people all over the world were outraged at Aruba for the cover-up for the scandal for...for all of these things that were being represented in the media.  And this created wow a lot of hatred towards Aruba and towards anything Aruba.

Texasmom - thank you soo much for posting the transcript of the TLC special.   I haven't been able to see the program yet, but just finished reading your excellent transcript.

This last quote of Julia Renfro's really got my attention.

So, I just want to say to Julia Renfro...you still sound like a freaking idiot!!   

Did it ever occur to you, Julia, that maybe the "people all over the world" were just as outraged that the citizens of Aruba allowed their local underage children to gamble in casinos and drink in bars and prey upon the very tourists supporting their economy?  The media certainly didn't make that up.

And you're a parent yourself?  Really?    At this late date, lady, you should have at least found yourself a clue. 
 



 

[Mere]

Lifesong.....she is a freaking idiot...!  and one with either lots of plastic surgery or botox or both....she's having a bad time blinking....and it makes me smile. 

She still doesn't get it.  I wanted to add to the red highlighted paragraph....and
"wow Julia that hatred for all things Aruba puts you right at the top....you chose
to get cozy with the enemy....the rest of the world chose not to".

[texasmom]

 

Has anyone seen or heard from hotping??  She hasn't been logged in for a while and we surely hope she's okay.  Miss her.

Name:  hotping
Posts:  3740 (4.764 per day)
Position:  Scared Monkey
Date Registered:  November 28, 2007, 10:54:27 PM
Last Active:  December 25, 2009, 01:43:15 AM

I haven't seen or heard from her either 2NJ.  I hope she's o.k. too, I miss her terribly!   

[jen3560]

Lifesong called Renfro a "lady" 

Isn't that an oxymoron?

Hiya Lifesong!  Good to see you!!!! 

I miss Hotping as well, hopefully she will check in soon!!!!


2NJ - I hope you have a wonderful day tomorrow!!  Happy Birthday!!! 

[texasmom]

(continued)

(Tom Anelli, Criminal Defense Attorney) He’s changed his story so many times that the Prosecutor and the Judge in this case cannot believe anything that is said.

(Bryan Burrough, Vanity Fair)  The history of crime is full of crimes like this, where everyone is reasonably certain they know what happened; the problem is proving it.

THE SUSPECTS ARE STILL AT LARGE, AND THE CASE IS STILL OFFICIALLY OPEN.
FOR THE PEOPLE OF ARUBA IT HAS CAUSED LASTING CONTROVERSY AND HARDSHIP.

(Julia Renfro)  The media represented Aruba in a very very bad light.  And Americans were outraged, and not just Americans; people all over the world were outraged at Aruba for the cover-up for the scandal for...for all of these things that were being represented in the media.  And this created wow a lot of hatred towards Aruba and towards anything Aruba.

Texasmom - thank you soo much for posting the transcript of the TLC special.   I haven't been able to see the program yet, but just finished reading your excellent transcript.

This last quote of Julia Renfro's really got my attention.

So, I just want to say to Julia Renfro...you still sound like a freaking idiot!!   

Did it ever occur to you, Julia, that maybe the "people all over the world" were just as outraged that the citizens of Aruba allowed their local underage children to gamble in casinos and drink in bars and prey upon the very tourists supporting their economy?  The media certainly didn't make that up.

And you're a parent yourself?  Really?    At this late date, lady, you should have at least found yourself a clue. 
 



 

You're welcome Lifesong!  I hope you get a chance to see the show too. 

And I agree with you and Mere about Renfro.   

[texasmom]

ARUBA

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_67798.php

Google translation:

Research fraud ATA

January 22, 2010, 07:18 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - Minister of Tourism, Labor and Transport Otmar Oduber (AVP) has confirmed that the Central Audit Department (CAD) conducts research in Aruba Tourism Authority (ATA). "There is an ongoing investigation. I want more now but not lost. I want the progress of the investigation did not interfere. "The minister said that he" particularly sorry that the office of ATA is currently in a bad light ". The minister is the investigation "within a very short term" completed. Astrid Muller, member of the management of ATA would lose nothing about the investigation. Local media reported Thursday that research into widespread fraud and forgery in events organized by Aruba Tourism Authority in the past two years have been organized.

[texasmom]

Lifesong called Renfro a "lady" 

Isn't that an oxymoron?

Hiya Lifesong!  Good to see you!!!! 

I miss Hotping as well, hopefully she will check in soon!!!!


2NJ - I hope you have a wonderful day tomorrow!!  Happy Birthday!!! 

 

[texasmom]

 

I thought "hogamento" meant "drowned", but I guess not?  I haven't been able to find a translation of the word.

http://www.24ora.com/content/view/15583/8/



Papiamentu translation:

caso of hogamento at of senjor frogs

friday, 22 january 2010 - 15:52

in oranan of diabierna afternoon, ambulance owing to bay cu urgencia at sr. frogs for one caso of hogamento. at first instant owing to think cu can was deal of one child, but not was so. click read more for more info... is come deal here of one tourist masculino of edad madura, that posiblemente owing to achieve one ataca y owing to injury his self at the tobogan of sr. frogs. at once unidadnan of ambulance owing to present at the sitio for work cune. for of vocero of hospital, sr. harms, we owing to come achieve informe cu the cabayero at instant cu el'a arrive hospital, owing to fayece (die). at famianan of the fayecido we is extende we sincero words of deep condolencia.

[texasmom]

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acousticsoulaua
January 22, 2010
(less info)

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[texasmom]

I thought "hogamento" meant "drowned", but I guess not?  I haven't been able to find a translation of the word.

http://www.24ora.com/content/view/15583/8/



Papiamentu translation:

caso of hogamento at of senjor frogs

friday, 22 january 2010 - 15:52

in oranan of diabierna afternoon, ambulance owing to bay cu urgencia at sr. frogs for one caso of hogamento. at first instant owing to think cu can was deal of one child, but not was so. click read more for more info... is come deal here of one tourist masculino of edad madura, that posiblemente owing to achieve one ataca y owing to injury his self at the tobogan of sr. frogs. at once unidadnan of ambulance owing to present at the sitio for work cune. for of vocero of hospital, sr. harms, we owing to come achieve informe cu the cabayero at instant cu el'a arrive hospital, owing to fayece (die). at famianan of the fayecido we is extende we sincero words of deep condolencia.

Maybe he did drown in the pool at Senor Frogs?   

My guess, it will be ruled a heart attack. 

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=2510&offId=0&offDate=2010-1



Papiamentu translation:

5 hora happen fecha: 22/01/2010 horario: 14:40

tourist owing to become bad at the waterslide of club in westraat, 3 ambulance owing to bay brinda asistnecia

diabierna nightfall owing to enter informe cu a will owing to hoga in owing to waterslide of one club in weststraat at once owing to beat alarma y owing to dirigi ambulance at the sitio. at arrival of ambulance they owing to encontra cu one person cu will owing to become bad y owing to hoga in the pool, at once they owing to inicia cu cpr. after owing to hibe cu urgencia for hospital. one rato after of his arrival at hospital not owing to stay nothing another cu constata cu the tourist crucero of 62 anja owing to fayece. words of condolencia at famianan of the fayecido, cu the sosega at paz. come across

[texasmom]

Hi Snoopy!   

[2NJSons_Mom]

After all this time, looking at maps and pictures, it seems that one shot in those senor frog pics looks like a cruise ship is parked almost next to that dump.  I knew the docks were not far, but didn't think the ships were that close (maybe a block or two away).  Am I wrong? 

If that man died on the waterslide, I wonder where the spotters were and what he had to drink before going down, down, down.   Sad.

[texasmom]

After all this time, looking at maps and pictures, it seems that one shot in those senor frog pics looks like a cruise ship is parked almost next to that dump.  I knew the docks were not far, but didn't think the ships were that close (maybe a block or two away).  Am I wrong? 

If that man died on the waterslide, I wonder where the spotters were and what he had to drink before going down, down, down.   Sad.

I know, I had visions of that man getting booze poured down his throat like I've seen in so many pictures!     Very sad...

I thought that ship looked awfully close too!  I guess it IS!  You can almost step off the ship and into Senor Frogs!

http://maps.google.com/


Senor Frogs near Weststraat, Oranjestad, Aruba

Señor Frog´s‎
Oranjestad, Aruba‎ - 5820390‎ - 0.7 km SW

(A)  Carlos 'n Charlie's‎ - more info »
Weststraat, Oranjestad, Aruba‎ - 582 0355‎ - 0.7 km SW
2 reviews

(B)  "Señor Frogs Weststraat 1, Oranjestad, Aruba, Dutch Caribbean. Tel +297 582 0355 ..."‎ visitarubaplus.com‎ 

[2NJSons_Mom]

Thanks, again, TM.....I also thought that senor frog was in the same building as C&C, but Google says otherwise.  Learning something new every day, I guess.