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Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #827 12/9/09 - 1/28/10 (Read 613781 times)
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #827 12/9/09 -
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Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on January 22, 2010, 10:33:35 PM
Thanks, again, TM.....I also thought that senor frog was in the same building as C&C, but Google says otherwise. Learning something new every day, I guess.
I've read both versions same building different name, new building for Senor Frogs with the Carlos n Charlie's building for sale.
In this pic of Carlos 'n Charlie's it looks like that ship is just as close as in those pics today to me! And in that video I posted about a week ago, the guy from New York said he was standing outside the last place Natalee had been seen and that it had been "renamed" Senor Frogs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CarlosnCharliesAruba.jpg
This image was originally posted to Flickr by ZacharyTirrell at
http://flickr.com/photos/60863155@N00/135670256
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: texasmom on January 22, 2010, 11:14:38 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on January 22, 2010, 10:33:35 PM
Thanks, again, TM.....I also thought that senor frog was in the same building as C&C, but Google says otherwise. Learning something new every day, I guess.
I've read both versions same building different name, new building for Senor Frogs with the Carlos n Charlie's building for sale.
In this pic of Carlos 'n Charlie's it looks like that ship is just as close as in those pics today to me! And in that video I posted about a week ago, the guy from New York said he was standing outside the last place Natalee had been seen and that it had been "renamed" Senor Frogs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CarlosnCharliesAruba.jpg
This image was originally posted to Flickr by ZacharyTirrell at
http://flickr.com/photos/60863155@N00/135670256
Carlos & Charlie's and Senor Frogs both have the same parent company - I had thought that C & C's had closed and was REPLACED with Senor Frogs.
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I think that's basically what happened wreck. The confusion is over whether or not Senor Frogs is in the same building Carlos 'n Charlie's was in.
Did you watch the show? If so, what did you think? TIA
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: texasmom on January 23, 2010, 12:59:19 AM
I think that's basically what happened wreck. The confusion is over whether or not Senor Frogs is in the same building Carlos 'n Charlie's was in.
Did you watch the show? If so, what did you think? TIA
No, I stillkeep missing it -- I saw your transcript though, THANKS!!!
I attended a workshop for "website optimization" put on by AT&T yesterday and just happened to win an IPhone!!! I never win anything!! I have been pretty wrapped up in learning how to work the damn thing. It is pretty much amazing!!
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Quote from: wreck on January 23, 2010, 01:12:40 AM
Quote from: texasmom on January 23, 2010, 12:59:19 AM
I think that's basically what happened wreck. The confusion is over whether or not Senor Frogs is in the same building Carlos 'n Charlie's was in.
Did you watch the show? If so, what did you think? TIA
No, I stillkeep missing it -- I saw your transcript though, THANKS!!!
I attended a workshop for "website optimization" put on by AT&T yesterday and just happened to win an IPhone!!! I never win anything!! I have been pretty wrapped up in learning how to work the damn thing. It is pretty much amazing!!
You're welcome!
WOW...congrats! I bet that is cool, and you'll love it once you get used to it. I don't have one but I know several people who do and they're lost without it. I never win anything either!
Well, if you have the ID - Investigation Discovery channel, you've got another chance to see it if you want to!
http://www.locatetv.com/tv/natalee-holloway--lost-in-paradise/6588764
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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I wasn't sure if I got that channel or not, so I checked and on my direct tv it's channel 285.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Truth and Justice for Natalee!
That's what it's all about Aruba,
We won't give up!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on January 22, 2010, 03:28:47 PM
Has anyone seen or heard from hotping?? She hasn't been logged in for a while and we surely hope she's okay. Miss her.
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Maybe she got a hunk for Christmas with a trip on a yacht around the world!
If not, I hope we hear from my other Sis, soon, I have been thinking of her.
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Quote from: texasmom on January 23, 2010, 01:42:43 AM
Truth and Justice for Natalee!
That's what it's all about Aruba,
We won't give up!
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY 2NJ --- CELEBRATE!!
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http://www.einformante.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1019:homber-cu-ataca-di-curazon-na-sr-frogs&catid=1:policial&Itemid=2
Papiamentu translation:
man cu ataca of curazon at sr frog's
friday, 22 january 2010 13:13
diabierna in day some tourist was gozando y owing to cuminsa employ the tobogan at frogs. one sir of edad just in the slide owing to hanja one ataca of curazon. esnan in the lugar owing to try help the mr here y owing to calling of trip 911 for so can come give one hand. automaticamente 2 ambulance owing to present for so help the mr here but this not owing to succeed y he owing to fayece.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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2NJ - Happy Birthday! Hope your family is spoiling you with love and kisses!
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Quote from: texasmom on December 25, 2009, 11:54:30 AM
http://www.24ora.com/content/view/14785/8/
Papiamentu translation:
turistanan asalta bispo of pasco night near of paseo herencia
friday, 25 december 2009 - 12:18
turistanan cu owing to come happen dianan of party at aruba owing to become victima of one asalto bispo of pasco night. police owing to wordo calling for
her
caso here y at arrival near of paseo herencia owing to hear what owing to sosode.
the bag of the turistanan owing to wordo ranca y the asaltantenan owing to descend at water after. according testigonan owing to tell police,
the asaltantenan owing to descend at water
in
one bmw one some old color black.
after of the asalto they owing to go direccion of hotel mariott. click read more for more detaye.
strandpolitie owing to cay inside at once. polisnan of distrito north also owing to cay inside y owing to cuminsa throw one view for one bmw color black. algo so is one golpi strong on we turism. is wait for cu place hand on esnan responsable.
No idea how many similar BMW's are on the island, but this certainly caught my attention. Wonder if the police department that detained the driver was even aware of the Christmas day attack on the tourist?
http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=2514&offId=0
Papiamentu translation:
15 hora pasa / fecha 23/1/2010 / horario 01:12
after of one persecucion police owing to succeed detene chofer cu owing to happen in light cora y owing to send car on police
saturday madruga after of cu police did take notice of one car bmw owing to happen in light cora y owing to bay stop the chofer this owing to send car on dje for after owing to start one persecucion cu owing to bay end behind lighthouse hour cu they owing to succeed detene the sospechoso c. we will follow informa. update the sospechoso owing to being poni in lebertad after of one interogacion diminutive. come across
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_67872.php
Google translation:
Dump back into fire
January 23, 2010, 13:05 (GMT -04:00)
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ORANGE CITY - Large plumes of black smoke above the landfill in Parkietenbos. Yesterday afternoon, part of the dump on fire again. This resulted in Orange City for the necessary smoke and odor nuisance. Access to the landfill was temporarily closed and garbage collection Serlimar was under the watchful eye of the fire in the back with excavators to subdue the fire. Stack of old tires were on fire. According to firefighters who were on site, the old ties are deliberately lit. Late last month, the dump also on fire. Minister for Infrastructure, Environment and Integration Benny Sevinger (AVP) released when a visit to the fire. Manager Jonathan Tromp told him that the fire was started with tires. "It is no different than that these tires are ignited," said the minister at that time.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_67869.php
Google translation:
ARUBA
Fast track for speeding drivers
January 23, 2010, 13:03 (GMT -04:00)
ORANGE CITY - Speed Devils more than 30 kilometer per hour speeding, are now quickly brought to justice. This is what the Public Prosecutor (OM) and the Police Corps of Aruba (KPA) decided. They put the rigorous approach of speeding drivers on the short-term offenders to justice.
"Speeding, whether or not combined with excessive alcohol consumption, has recently led to numerous traffic accidents. It often fatal casualties, "said the OM. The police and prosecutor are therefore concerned about the speeding on the roads Aruba.
Fast track
By speeding of 30 kilometer or more, the so-called "fast track" application. The prosecution has issued separate agreements with the Court of First Instance. On February 4 a dozen issues will be dealt with fast track. It is speeding drivers in the weekend of January 17 and 16 by the police during road checks have been detained. All drivers had substantially violated the maximum speed of 30, 40 and even 50 kilometer per hour.
"These people are at high risk of losing their license," warns the OM. "In excess of the maximum gross rate, the court, especially if the driver has committed more speed limit, to decide an unconditional disqualification from driving."
The Public Ministry has since July 2009 the fines and punishment for speeding increased demands.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_67862.php
Google translation:
ARUBA
Sliding Party fatal for tourist
January 23, 2010 12:58 (GMT -04:00)
ORANGE CITY -
An American tourist
cruise (60) is deceased yesterday afternoon after a visit to Seņor Frog's in Weststraat. The victim was with family and friends in the restaurant. He was there including the use of existing water slide. Around three hours in the afternoon he became ill. The emergency services were called and the management decided to close the case. When it became clear that the man had a cardiac arrest, two ambulances were on site. Ill Brothers would still have resuscitated the victim, but the help came too late. Upon arrival at the Horacio Oduber Hospital proved to be the man deceased.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_67860.php
Google translation:
ARUBA
Inzamelactie for food bank
January 23, 2010, 12:57 (GMT -04:00)
ORANGE CITY - With a massive Community Collection Day launched Comunidad Fundacion Pa Nos (FPNC) morning the Aruban Food, Clothing and Furniture Bank. "We have furniture, clothing, toys, household goods and canned foods to the food bank needed to fill," said Claudie Wegdam. "That we can help people who are not financially or barely in their own livelihood."
The inzamelactie, except the filling of the food bank, another goal. FPNC wishes to profile on Aruba and explain what the Aruban Food, Clothing and Furniture Bank. Wegdam: "We have been for three years now been working. Now is the time for everyone to Aruba to show what we do. For us it is time to meet with the Aruban community. Besides a drop-off point of goods, there was plenty to do on the ground in Aruba Post. "Thus now and BMW NBO bands of the party to entertain the public. There were also snacks and drinks and a jump for dinosaur children. "Anyone who is interested to help in its mission to FPNC poverty on Aruba to prevent and combat can be tender." Despite all the attention now focused on the earthquake-found island of Haiti, said yesterday Wegdam a large turnout expected. "What happened in Haiti is very bad.
But there should not be forgotten that about 1300 families are without electricity, water and food to live because they can not pay, "said Wegdam.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Looking back in the vault:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2989.msg396057#msg396057
Quote from: KarmaRoundUp on July 04, 2008, 10:51:48 AM
Looks like OxBlood got banned from the aruban forum lol
Here is some info on C&C/Senor Frogs
Carlos and Charlies closed in January. Next door and upstairs (on the left) is now Senor Frogs
http://www.senorfrogs.com/
which is owned by the same parent company as C&C. Most of the same people that worked at C&C now work at SF. Another place for music & dancing is Mambo Jambo's at Royal Plaza Mall (next to the bus station). You can see their music schedule on
http://www.mambojamboaruba.com/index_flash.html
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2793.msg375297#msg375297
Quote from: San on April 19, 2008, 05:08:17 PM
Quote from: johan555 on April 19, 2008, 04:41:42 PM
Auba party pics
http://www.coolaruba.com/com
also
older
pics !
this is the new bar Seņor Frogs was C&C
the owner:
Same game different name.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.msg369558#msg369558
(And the quote stack on this one is huge, so I won't bring it here.
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===> Aliayah Lunsford, 3yrs old, Weston, West VA, missing since 9/24/2011
===> Lisa Irwin, 10mo old missing since 10/4/2011 KC, MO
===> Robyn Gardner missing in Aruba August 2, 2011
=> Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives
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Virginia Area Missing and Murdered - possible connections
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=> Morgan Dana Harrington, 20yrs missing VA Tech 10/17/09(BODY FOUND)
=> Hannah Elizabeth Graham missing since 9/13/14 Charlottesville, VA
=> Alexis Murphy, missing since 8/3/13 Charlottesville, VA
=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
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=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
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=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
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=> The Monkey Lounge
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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