A REMINDERNO ARUBAN JUSTICE BUT A MEASURE OF CLOSURE THE SEARCH FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY
TLC – 2010-01-17
BETH HOLLOWAY:
"What I can do is hopefully share some life lessons and prevent this tragedy from happening to another family. So I stay focused on what I can do rather than what I can't. I can't get justice for Natalee".
http://tlc.discovery.com/tv-schedules/special.html?paid=2.1213.56293LOVING NATALEE - BETH HOLLOWAY
Page 189: It's the proverbial, Biblical conflict between good and evil. It's very, very hard to fight evil because it constantly changes form and you never know who your enemies are. And evil is always two steps ahead. From the outset we never had a chance. But we didn't know it. I'm taking leave of the island, but not from the work yet to be done.
Page 197: There is apparently no amount of money in the world that can get us the answer to what happened to Natalee. When I asked an Aruban attorney about this, his response was chilling: "The threat is bigger than the money," he says. The Threat. That dark influence. The evil that nothing and no one can pierce.
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1. In all probability Justice for Natalee Holloway will never be forthcoming but maybe ... just maybe ... the threatened exposure of the Persistence ROV footage along with Kyle Kingman's own words which reveals a John Silvetti betrayal implies that pressure could be put on Aruba/Holland by Beth Holloway and/or the FBI to release the contents of the trap recovered by Aruban divers and ... afford those who love Natalee a measure of closure knowing she is home and is resting on American soil. AN ANGUISHED MOTHER "We cannot forget to demand and expect to have Natalee. Natalee deserves to return to her country. She deserves it, and everyone knows it, every single person. Every single person knows that. They know it."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8485029/ AN ANGUISHED STEPFATHER "Beth and I have been through this emotional roller coaster. And all we want is Natalee, whether she's alive or dead. We want to bring her back to the United States, and we'll leave and they can do whatever they want to do."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8551824 2. Natalee Holloway's uncle had concerns regarding the outcome of the Persistence endeavor when he considered the involvement of the enemy who had prevented justice from prevailing for his niece since the getgo. SURELY I AM WRONG"I hope that the Persistence has not done all of this work and gone to all of this expense only to have gotten itself into an arrangement whereby Aruban divers are the ones who actually verify the targets and are the first ones to physically retrieve evidence, with no American divers physically with them. If so, all I can say is I just can't believe this has happened. But surely I am wrong."
IRRESPONSIBLE INVESTIGATING"But sharing information with people who work for people who are directly orchestrating the cover up, Rudy, or the Dutch, is the most irresponsible investigating I can imagine. What kills this investigation is people having to come into it, wanting to apply basic investigatory protocols into place, and then having those channels sabotage the new evidence that the new players discover. Of course, as is happened everytime in this case, the new people eventually come to a point where the manipulation of the evidence is undeniable, but by then the fruits of their work are gone, and there is simply another member of the believers of the cover up group. What I pray that Kyle and the crew of the Persistence will determine, is that regardless of how hard working the man that they are working with appears to work, his work belongs to Rudy, and Rudy belongs to the local dutch. We are not hysterical, ignorant, paranoid people. We have seen the cover up in action, in broad daylight, with impunity, and if you disregard our warnings, you will become the next chump in a series of chumps, no matter how sophisticated your equipment, the level of your educational achievement, or the extent of your job skills and work history."
DEFENDING THE WORK OF THE ARUBANS"I don't believe that Kyle or anyone else is allowed to review the case documents, according to the policy of the prosecutors office. I thought the beauty of the Persistence is that they were to do a true grid seach mission which depends not on psychics or even tips from the authorities, and as such their work would be independent of the investigation. They were there simply to attempt to search a predefined area for Natalee's remains. So I am not sure why they have been lured into defending the work of the Aruban authorities or a discussion of the validity of the investigation as they are not knowledgeable as to the investigation, other than what they have been told by these Arubans. There are an awful lot of highly educated people who have been chumped by people of far less formal education. A well trained police force is not thwarted by a grieving mother and the media. And Kyle, I by no means am being disrespectful, I think you are brilliant, sincerely. But I don't think your education or work experience has prepared you for a cover up by these types of people. And I think you may be severely underestimating the education, experience, and wisdom of the monkeys and other coverup believers. Don't let them make a fool of you. We need you."
THE GAME WAS FIXED"If I understood Kyle correctly, and that would be that the Arubans retrieved and possessed all finds, not sharing anything with the crew, then that effort was a waste of time and effort. The only thing it could have accomplished was to locate additional evidence for the Arubans to destroy. I am not sure if that was the protocol out of Aruba's waters though. The effort was superb, but the game was fixed."
A LARGE CRAB"They will have dateline onboard and I understand that they were involved in the Titantic so I assume they have the expertise to preserve any remains or artifacts and have a protocol. They can always find and locate it, call for assistance and then retrieve it. But that is my fear that they imediately turn it over to Aruba where her remains can become that of a large crab."
3. When Kyle Kingman's own words were revealed ... the concerns of Natalee Holloway's uncle regarding the outcome of the Persistence endeavor were realized. On December 30, 2007 only Aruban divers in a visual dive deemed the contents of the trap not case related and ... on January 7, 2008 only Aruban divers were involved in the recovery process in regards to the contents of the traps. THE VISUAL DIVE - DECEMBER 30, 2007 Kyle Kingman - In His Own Words Kyle Kingman: Later that day 30-Dec we conducted the dive with the Aruban divers along with our own Tim Trahan. He couldn't tell by his own admission.
Kyle Kingman: By Tim's own admission, his observation of the inside of the trap (lasting a few seconds) was inconclusive. What you can't see is immediately before Tim approached the trap opening, a large skate stirred up sediment reducing visibility. The quick signal came because the dive time was nearly up
Kyle Kingman: I requested all samples to be brought on board the Persistence for visual and top-side photographs. It was ignored by the project lead (John S.) who felt the Arubans would follow whatever they needed to do as far as proper protocol.
Kyle Kingman: Aruban divers deemed the cage to be not case related, and therefore Aruba had no interest in it.
Kyle Kingman: The Arubans told us there wasn't anything of interest in the trap based on the visual-only inspection.
Kyle Kingman: After the diver visual inspection of the trap he (Tim Miller) was obligated to report what the Aruban divers reported because although limited, it's the only information he had and the family rightfully wanted answers. It was a royal mess.
Kyle Kingman: John definitely believed the Arubans at their every word when they said on Dec 30th that it was nothing case relevant.
THE RECOVERY DIVE - JANUARY 7, 2008Kyle Kingsman - In His Own WordsKyle Kingman: For Jan 7th, Eduardo wasn't on the boat, neither were any media, Tim Miller, or Tim Trahan.
Kyle Kingman: The Persistence had no divers on the 7th. Tim Trahan was our diver on the 30th-Dec, but he was out of the country at the time. The Aruban divers were on the police boat, dove from their boat, and returned to their boat.
Kyle Kingman: They were immediately whisked away by the Aruban police and not seen of again by us on the 7th.
Kyle Kingman: I get done in the survey room backing up the ROV dive and head to the back deck to talk to the Polis divers and see what they sampled and see the Polis boat way in the distance heading away fast. John doesn't seem concerned at all, but I am very dissapointed, concerned, and burning inside because I have a feeling that I/we will never know what they took from the trap. That evening I talked to John asking when we plan on recovering the trap. Previously this was part of the talks and plan, but this time he doesn't seem concerned about ever looking into the trap further. After John verbally BASHED me about the trap for what I said to Tim Miller about the sand body-form and that I believed her skirt was under the sand, John pretty much committed himself to the belief the trap wasn't what we were after. This shocked me because it was exactly what we were looking for- a fish trap lost at sea with human remains.
Kyle Kingman: We had little option other than to have the Aruban dive division recover the samples and bring them back under their care. Remember we are Americans working in Aruban waters, subject to their laws, invitation, and blessing. Our hands are tied for the most part. I personally was extremely uncomfortable with the chain of custody, being that we weren't a part of it, but I was powerless to do anything about it. The samples were photographed in detail by one Aruban diver and the other two investigated the contents of the trap, the dimensions, the rigging, and what surrounded the trap. From the video, it looked like they did a diligent and careful job with the samples and the underwater photography. I don't know who has these pictures, but I must assume ALE.
Kyle Kingman: John is not a believer in the trap. He took ALE's word as gospel that it wasn't case related, yet never studied the videos or bothered to inquire further. He had plans on doing business with Aruba and in S. America and he didn't want to hurt any feelings by talks hinting at lack of complete trust and friendship. I did not feel the same and we had a major difference in opinion. He was the one who never pressed ALE to be completely open with us with the trap evidence. I would have forced them to. However, John was the one paying my invoices so I was forced to sit back and hope for the best.
Kyle Kingman: Richardson told us after the Jan-7th dive to keep searching in deep water. John told me then he didn't want to hear me ever mention the trap again. Of course this didn't set well with me.
Kyle Kingman: Several hours of footage were of other dives on other targets. None were of any relevance. Most targets were of peculiar coral pinnacles, man-made debris, and ship wrecks.
4. The qualified ROV operator/analyst on board the Persistence determined from his investigation of two separate ROV footages that Natalee Holloway's remains ... in all probability ... were contained within the trap. ROV IMAGES - DECEMBER 29, 2007Kyle Kingman - In His Own Words
Kyle Kingman: I found the trap on 1:45am Christmas morning. I got the OK to begin our ROV dive series for the 29th, so I made it our first dive. We got visual of the fish trap and that it was suspicious. Basically, the fish trap door was open and there appeared to be a skull and torso-shape in sand on the door inside the trap Reviewing the 29-Dec video I noticed the torso shape in sand had a 90 degree angle and that the sand was supported from falling through the bottom of the trap, which was slightly excavated by currents. I proportioned out the distance from the top of the head, to shoulder, to that 90 degree angle and it was a match to Natalee's photo of her standing -head, to shoulder, to the end of her denim skirt. I showed TM the proportional match and the possibility of a skirt under the sand.
Kyle Kingman: I took the proportions of the body form from the head, to shoulder, to a 90 degree angle which I believed to be the hem line of Natalee's skirt. I then took those proportions and matched them to the photo of Natalee with what she was last seen wearing. The proportions matched within an inch from head, to shoulder, to skirt line. Based on this comparison and with what we believed we saw in the Dec 29th video, Tim Miller contacted the family and told them the 99.9% comment ...
ROV IMAGES - JANUARY 7, 2008 Kyle Kingman - In His Own Words
Kyle Kingman: Jan 7th we sampled the contents and in my opinion we found the skirt under the sand along with the other items The blue fabric was found right where the skirt is pictured. If it isn't her, it will forever haunt me as a major cosmic WTF.
Kyle Kingman: The fabric(s?) are not visible on either the Dec 29th or 30th dives. There is about an inch of sand over the fabrics. The fabrics are completely covered. The diver sampled the sand and found the fabric underneath the sand. He then bagged the blue fabric. If the other bag contains fabric, it was also in the sand. There was also something possibly recovered from far inside the trap. In the video the diver is inside the trap with just below his knees showing.
Kyle Kingman: The bags were removed just after the ROV got out of the way when the divers took the samples to their boat.... and took off
Kyle Kingman: In my opinion, the blue fabric is quite possibly Natalee's skirt. The divers found the denim where I suggested a week earlier (Dec 29th) to Tim Miller that there was likely Natalee's denim skirt under the sand. Also in my opinion, the deni-like fabric is a match in terms of color, quantity, and structure to Natalee's skirt. It's not a lot of denim folded in the bag, but then again her skirt was rather small.
5. If justice for an 18 year old American citizen, closure for her family and accountability to those who prayfully and monetarily supported the Persistence endeavor were John Silvetti's objectives ... he had a moral obligation to ensure that there was an Aruban invitation secured that would have afforded an FBI presence on board the ship. It makes sense that this invitation should have been secured prior to the Persistence entering Aruban water.FBIKyle Kingman - In His Own Words
Kyle Kingman: The FBI told me they could not send a representative down to us in Aruba unless they were specifically invited to do so by the Aruban authorities. They were simply uninvited.
Kyle Kingman: The FBI said they needed an invitation. I brought it up to Mos and Richardson and they were talking as if it were a possibility along with a Dutch forensic team. Mos said it would take about 10-14 days to have a Dutch forensic team on site. Never heard another word about it.
6. It does not make sense that collaborating with the Aruban/Dutch enemy who from the getgo ... was a participant working behind the scenes furthering the Aruban cover-up agenda ... the Aruban cover-up agenda that has prevented justice from prevailing for Natalee Holloway. It is not rocket science A positive outcome from the Persistence undertaking in regards to justice and closure never stood a chance. DOLF RICHARDSON Kyle Kingman - In His Own Words
Kyle Kingman: Richardson was very quick to dismiss the trap as case-relevant. Richardson was insisting that we keep looking FAR out to sea in very deep water. He was the one briefing the ALE divers on how to handle the site. He was the one who handled all the evidence that came out of the water. He was the one who admits to personally sending the fabric sample to the FBI for testing.
Kyle Kingman: On the morning of the 30th we met on board the Persistence with Hans Mos, Richardson, and the rest of the police brass and dive division. I showed them all the 29th dive video and they agreed that it was very suspicion and looked promising. Later that day 30-Dec we conducted the dive with the Aruban divers along with our own Tim Trahan.
Kyle Kingman: Mr. Red shirt came on the Persistence along with Dolf, Mos, et al for the meeting on the 30th."
Kyle Kingman: It was confirmed by the FBI that they received a fabric sample send by Richardson and that it wasn't a match to Natalee's blouse. I think the video can prove or disprove whatever the FBI was sent was the same object or not. I strongly believe it's blue denim.
Kyle Kingman: The blue tarp and blue fabric was confirmed by Richardson and Mos. Remember, they each only confirmed one piece. One confirmed blue fabric, the other confirmed tarp. From the video you see both
Kyle Kingman: The FBI said they needed an invitation. I brought it up to Mos and Richardson and they were talking as if it were a possibility along with a Dutch forensic team. Mos said it would take about 10-14 days to have a Dutch forensic team on site. Never heard another word about it.
Kyle Kingman: I hadn't slept in 48 hours. I crashed for a few hours rest and by the time I got up Dateline and Tim Miller had left the boat. That is when John [Silvetti] assumed full control over the remainder of the project and had us searching in the deepest portions of our search area which coincided with Richardson's remarks. Richardson told us after the Jan-7th dive to keep searching in deep water.
Kyle Kingman: Jan 12-13 I saw the Dutch Coast Guard on site for 45 minutes on both days. I told John about the Coast Guard on site and he didn't want to hear it. However, he must have thought about it and after chewing on it agreed because he spoke to Mos and Richardson about it later. I believe it was Richardson came back to him and said nothing other than they don't have dive capabilities.
Kyle Kingman: Remember after the Jan-7th dive which sampled the trap Richardson told John emphatically to "keep searching she's still out there in the deep ocean".
Kyle Kingman: Remember it was Richardson who said to us that he personally handled the evidence and sent it immediately to our FBI.
Kyle Kingman: Richardson was onboard the Persistence several times and attended the meetings on the boat.
Kyle Kingman: I had questions which were very unsettling about what I had observed during the search including the events surrounding the trap inspection by the Aruban divers and how the samples were handled by ALE - solely Richardson. This made me very uneasy. It was unsettling ....
7. It was Kyle Kingman's sincere desire to expose the truth behind the Persistence betrayal in a compiled document to Beth Holloway in hopes that pressure could be put on Aruba to reveal what may have been recovered from the trap on January 7, 2008. In pursuance of that goal ... Kyle solicited the assistance of those who belonged to a private forum ... those whose objective was that justice would ultimately prevailed for Natalee Holloway. However ... it Kyle backtracked on his original honorable intentions. Why? What was the motivation to betray Natalee Holloway ... betray her family?Kyle Kingman - In His Own Words
Kyle Kingman - 03/20/08: My intentions here at this forum weren't to just spew out all that I know. My intentions were to get a few trusted close people informed, armed, and organized. Then, once organized get a hold of Beth and present things in a controlled private and safe manner. THEN come up with a plan to procede that is well thought-out.
Kyle Kingman - 03/20/08: Since I got the go ahead from Tim, we can legally move forward. The document should follow-up the screen shots and trap content description. We can sent the document after the initial dialog. I trust then she (Beth) will be interested in the document.
The contents of the document should be discussed and agreed upon by the birds. Since I'm new here, I should take a back seat to this IMO. I would think it would be a case synthesis which culminates with the trap contents and lack of interest and motivation to fully process the site. Perhaps Beth will then use the document to create the proper motivation using the information to apply political pressure from both sides. The problem I ran into earlier with the FBI was that their hands are tied to do anything unless they're invited to the party. I think political pressure properly applied will ensure an invite to the party. Thoughts?
Title - perhaps "Case Synthesis and Search Results", or something to that effect.
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The preceding document was compiled by "Tamikosmom" using posts submitted to the Scared Monkey website by "Private Eye", "Kermit", "Jen" and "oceanexploration"http://scaredmonkeys.net/
