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Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #827 12/9/09 - 1/28/10 (Read 613696 times)
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texasmom
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #827 12/9/09 -
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Reply #1900 on:
January 27, 2010, 02:30:05 AM »
JMO
There are those who would like nothing better than to see us all throw up our hands in frustration and give up! It would probably be very surprising to some, the lengths that some of "those" will go to with the hope that will happen. It would probably be even more surprising who they will try to work "through". Perhaps they've even ordered advance copies of a book that's being written?
There have been plenty of knowitall's that have come and gone, we all know the signs by now.
As Anna has stated many times, we know what we know.
Don't be distracted. Don't take the bait, stay strong.
If need be, call a
spade
liar a
spade
liar with their "own words".
Scroll by that post that aggravates, even if it's a drive by rehash that's 3,681 words long
and couldn't possibly induce any meaningful discussion
. And then make a post of your own to show your support for Natalee and her family.
Don't forget what we're here for.
It's all about Natalee.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #827 12/9/09 -
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January 27, 2010, 02:32:27 AM »
Truth and Justice for Natalee!
That's what it's all about Aruba,
We won't give up!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #827 12/9/09 -
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Reply #1902 on:
January 27, 2010, 02:34:09 AM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 26, 2010, 06:38:48 PM
Quote from: billb on January 26, 2010, 01:19:17 AM
7. It was Kyle Kingman's sincere desire to expose the truth behind the Persistence betrayal in a compiled document to Beth Holloway in hopes that pressure could be put on Aruba to reveal what may have been recovered from the trap on January 7, 2008. In pursuance of that goal ... Kyle solicited the assistance of those who belonged to a private forum ... those whose objective was that justice would ultimately prevailed for Natalee Holloway. However ... Kyle backtracked on his original honorable intentions. Why? What was the motivation to betray Natalee Holloway ... betray her family?
Thanks for posting this Janet....
I sincerely hope this question gets answered in due course......
payoff is my gut reaction
...but surely I must be wrong.....
Hi billb
You could be right but ... I did not find any indication of a payoff in my reading of Kyle Kingman’s Own Words. On the other hand ... there are indications that Kyle feared a lawsuit being filed in regards to the breaking of a confidentiality agreement and … this young man does imply that future career opportunities were at risk.
Unless otherwise indicated … I will continue to give Kyle the benefit of the doubt that his motivation to backtrack was damage control in regards to the grim reality concerning the financial security of his family. Was Kyle right? No way! His flip flopping in his original determination to expose what troubled him in regards to the happenings on board the Persistence … happenings encompassing the trap … was an ultimate betrayal of Natalee Holloway and her family.
When all is said and done … while not condoning ... I can … to some degree … understand Kyle’s motivation but … it is always right to do right and … let the outcome play out. Maybe ... it is not too late.
Janet
++++++
Kermit
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #786 12/17/08 -
« Reply #540 on: December 19, 2008, 06:15:18 PM
»
Kyle sent me this today.
Kermit,
… The information you have been spreading is not only inaccurate and a violation of a non-disclosure, it is slanderous and spreading misinformation.
The damage it has done to my professional relationship with J. Silvetti is incalculable which has a direct effect on my ability to provide for my family
, which includes my daughter named after Natalee …
Sincerely,
Kyle
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4246.msg592482;topicseen#msg592482
ldstlou
Re: The Cage « Reply #157 on: March 19, 2009, 12:25:09 pm »
The last posts are taken from the e-mail that Kyle sent to Jug and I in December
Kyle Kingman:
I didn't threaten any of them.
I said that I personally didn't want to get sued for breaking a confidentiality agreement with information ending up on the Internet.
Them pushing it all out put me at risk legally and jeopardized my relationship with John
(which is now destroyed over this). Also, this information did not belong posted on the Internet in the first place. It was a huge naive misjudgement on my part to trust this group enough to share it in confidence.
http://goldmonkey.org/index.php?topic=980.msg12191#msg12191
What is the definition of RESPONSIBLITY?
1. Kyle
made the choice
to join Freebirds.
2. Kyle
made the choice
to divulge information FIRST with no one knowing
anything about his so-called confidentiality agreement with John Silvetti. Either he is just a born blabber-mouth or his conscious is bothering him. Afterall, he is the one that went to New York to try to sell the ROV images of a dead body inside the cage that is believed to be Natalee Holloway
and left out a visit or phone call informing the family of his intentions. Oh golly gee whlikers.
3.
No confidentiality agreement contains the clause to cover-up crimes.
AND looky here, Kyle seems to have found work and lots of it.
KINGMAN GEOPHYSICAL SOLUTIONS BLOG:
WEDNESDAY,
SEPTEMBER 23, 2009
Current Project: Search for Admiral Yi's Turtle Ships
Geophysical team leader for Aqua Survey, Inc. and Korea's Marine Resource & Cultural Foundation sponsored search for Admiral Yi's famous Turtle ships.
In the 1590s, one of the greatest battles in naval history was fought near the southern tip of Korea by one of the most brilliant naval strategists to have ever lived. Today, not many people outside of Korea know of Admiral Yi Sun-sin and his ingenious Turtle ships, but to Koreans they are the stuff of legend. Aqua Survey Inc. were contacted by the Marine Resource & Cultural Foundation of South Korea and given the great honor of a very special mission: to locate and raise one of Admiral Yi's famous Turtle Ships. ASI's recently developed electromagnetic metal detection system will play a pivotal role in our success. To learn more, go to:
http://www.aquasurvey.com/
http://geosolutions.blogspot.com/
WEDNESDAY,
SEPTEMBER 9, 2009
Atlantic City Wind Farm
Field project manager; geophysical survey for a proposed wind farm offshore Atlantic City, NJ.
Posted by Kyle Kingman at 8:25 PM 0 comments
Labels: Atlantic City wind farm
TUESDAY,
JULY 28, 2009
Skagerrak 1, 2, &3 HVDC Cable Inspection and Survey
Party Chief on board the Vos Satisfaction for Deep Ocean- Skagerrak 1, 2, and 3 HVDC cable route survey and cable inspections. Supporter-4 working class ROV fitted with: Reson 8125 dual head multibeam sonar, side scan sonar, Innovatum MaxTrak 4-sensor cable tracker, transverse gradiometric EM array, and a 3-camera video array. Survey and inspect 3 HVDC cables crossing the North Sea totaling about 360 kilometers.
THURSDAY,
JULY 2, 2009
Skaggerak-4 Deep Ocean HVDC Cable Route Survey
Party Chief for Deep Ocean Skaggerak-4 HVDC cable route survey, North Sea; Denmark to Norway on board the VOS Satisfaction. Approximately 1,230 survey line kilometers.
Vos Satisfaction
Posted by Kyle Kingman at 12:35 PM 0 comments
Labels: HVDC Cable, North Sea, Skaggerak 4, Statnett
http://geosolutions.blogspot.com
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #827 12/9/09 -
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 26, 2010, 12:07:38 AM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on January 25, 2010, 11:51:59 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 25, 2010, 11:21:45 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on January 25, 2010, 11:14:36 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 25, 2010, 10:50:19 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 25, 2010, 10:41:06 PM
Hey KTF..Now,why would someone from the Phillipines be interested in someone from Horizon offshore???
We've had members who were in the Phillipines, and I would think that Horizon could have projects near there....When you do a Google or whatever search, Scared Monkeys is likely to show up....now and then...and AGAIN.
I find things that are interesting, but don't always read too much into them. jmho
Keepthefaith, though....that's why we're here.
You could very well be right 2nj.I do find it a bit more interesting that they were searching a particular person,who is,and or was a VP@ Caldive,which bought Horizon in December of 2007...Just digging,that's all!
Document your findings and your digging will be understood and much appreciated. I was just going on what you posted and my personal knowledge of past members from that area. You gave no link and just now added the search info.....you know the drill.
I'm soon to sign out....just stating what I'm seeing at this time.
Domain Name (Unknown)
IP Address 222.127.132.# (Globe Telecom/Innove Communication)
ISP Globe Telecom/Innove Communication
Location Continent : Asia
Country : Philippines (Facts)
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City : Makati
Lat/Long : 14.5569, 121.0294 (Map)
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Sorry!Was just looking at things!
Maybe he is looking for a job.
Mr. Boyle joined Cal Dive International, Inc. as Vice President of International Accounting and Supply Chain Management,
with
the acquisition of Horizon Offshore Inc,
in December 2007. Prior to that Mr. Boyle served in various senior management positions, overseas and domestic, with companies in the oil and gas and related service industries including
Prime Energy Offshore Inc. (formerly FW Oil), Odyssea Marine Inc.,
Mc Dermott
International Inc., Offshore Pipelines Inc, Professional Geophysics, Inc (formerly Seis Pros Inc), Fairfield Industries and Geosource Inc.
Mr. Boyle studied accountancy at Ealing Polytechnic and The College of West London in England and successfully completed the examinations, level 1 through 3, of The Association of Certified and Corporate Accountants of England and Wales (A.C.C.A.).
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #827 12/9/09 -
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 25, 2010, 09:46:45 PM
Domain Name setardsl.aw ? (Aruba)
IP Address 199.0.83.# (SLBH/SETAR ARUBA)
ISP Sprint
Location Continent : South America
Country : Aruba (Facts)
City : Oranjestad
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #827 12/9/09 -
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Quote from: texasmom on January 23, 2010, 09:52:41 PM
Quote from: MuffyBee on January 23, 2010, 09:30:10 PM
Looking back in the vault:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2989.msg396057#msg396057
Quote from: KarmaRoundUp on July 04, 2008, 10:51:48 AM
Looks like OxBlood got banned from the aruban forum lol
Here is some info on C&C/Senor Frogs
Carlos and Charlies closed in January. Next door and upstairs (on the left) is now Senor Frogs
http://www.senorfrogs.com/
which is owned by the same parent company as C&C. Most of the same people that worked at C&C now work at SF. Another place for music & dancing is Mambo Jambo's at Royal Plaza Mall (next to the bus station). You can see their music schedule on
http://www.mambojamboaruba.com/index_flash.html
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2793.msg375297#msg375297
Quote from: San on April 19, 2008, 05:08:17 PM
Quote from: johan555 on April 19, 2008, 04:41:42 PM
Auba party pics
http://www.coolaruba.com/com
also
older
pics !
this is the new bar Señor Frogs was C&C
the owner:
Same game different name.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.msg369558#msg369558
(And the quote stack on this one is huge, so I won't bring it here.
Thanks MuffyBee!
That is that talk of the town guy. He's into a lot of modeling stuff which I believe might be a front for illegal activities.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #827 12/9/09 -
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BELATED HAPPY BIRTHDAY WISHES TO SAN AND 2NJSON'S_MOM
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #827 12/9/09 -
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Reply #1907 on:
January 27, 2010, 03:41:36 AM »
1/26/2010 Aruba Today
Front Page
http://www.arubatoday.com/index.php?option=com_flippingbook&book_id=2
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
texasmom
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #827 12/9/09 -
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #827 12/9/09 -
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Reply #1909 on:
January 27, 2010, 09:57:43 AM »
Quote from: texasmom on January 27, 2010, 02:30:05 AM
JMO
There are those who would like nothing better than to see us all throw up our hands in frustration and give up! It would probably be very surprising to some, the lengths that some of "those" will go to with the hope that will happen. It would probably be even more surprising who they will try to work "through". Perhaps they've even ordered advance copies of a book that's being written?
There have been plenty of knowitall's that have come and gone, we all know the signs by now.
As Anna has stated many times, we know what we know.
Don't be distracted. Don't take the bait, stay strong.
If need be, call a
spade
liar a
spade
liar with their "own words".
Scroll by that post that aggravates, even if it's a drive by rehash that's 3,681 words long
and couldn't possibly induce any meaningful discussion
. And then make a post of your own to show your support for Natalee and her family.
Don't forget what we're here for.
It's all about Natalee.
texasmom - I am posting to express once again my support for Natalee and her family. I don't do it often enough.
May justice find a way!
texasmom - your para. 1. I wouldn't be the least surprised that someone
is attempting to write a book. I've often wondered...
Are you guessing? Can you say more?
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No Body...No Tourism aruba! Bring Natalee Home!
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #827 12/9/09 -
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Reply #1910 on:
January 27, 2010, 11:41:02 AM »
Quote from: Kermit on January 27, 2010, 02:34:09 AM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 26, 2010, 06:38:48 PM
Quote from: billb on January 26, 2010, 01:19:17 AM
7. It was Kyle Kingman's sincere desire to expose the truth behind the Persistence betrayal in a compiled document to Beth Holloway in hopes that pressure could be put on Aruba to reveal what may have been recovered from the trap on January 7, 2008. In pursuance of that goal ... Kyle solicited the assistance of those who belonged to a private forum ... those whose objective was that justice would ultimately prevailed for Natalee Holloway. However ... Kyle backtracked on his original honorable intentions. Why? What was the motivation to betray Natalee Holloway ... betray her family?
Thanks for posting this Janet....
I sincerely hope this question gets answered in due course......
payoff is my gut reaction
...but surely I must be wrong.....
Hi billb
You could be right but ... I did not find any indication of a payoff in my reading of Kyle Kingman’s Own Words. On the other hand ... there are indications that Kyle feared a lawsuit being filed in regards to the breaking of a confidentiality agreement and … this young man does imply that future career opportunities were at risk.
Unless otherwise indicated … I will continue to give Kyle the benefit of the doubt that his motivation to backtrack was damage control in regards to the grim reality concerning the financial security of his family. Was Kyle right? No way! His flip flopping in his original determination to expose what troubled him in regards to the happenings on board the Persistence … happenings encompassing the trap … was an ultimate betrayal of Natalee Holloway and her family.
When all is said and done … while not condoning ... I can … to some degree … understand Kyle’s motivation but … it is always right to do right and … let the outcome play out. Maybe ... it is not too late.
Janet
++++++
Kermit
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #786 12/17/08 -
« Reply #540 on: December 19, 2008, 06:15:18 PM
»
Kyle sent me this today.
Kermit,
… The information you have been spreading is not only inaccurate and a violation of a non-disclosure, it is slanderous and spreading misinformation.
The damage it has done to my professional relationship with J. Silvetti is incalculable which has a direct effect on my ability to provide for my family
, which includes my daughter named after Natalee …
Sincerely,
Kyle
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4246.msg592482;topicseen#msg592482
ldstlou
Re: The Cage « Reply #157 on: March 19, 2009, 12:25:09 pm »
The last posts are taken from the e-mail that Kyle sent to Jug and I in December
Kyle Kingman:
I didn't threaten any of them.
I said that I personally didn't want to get sued for breaking a confidentiality agreement with information ending up on the Internet.
Them pushing it all out put me at risk legally and jeopardized my relationship with John
(which is now destroyed over this). Also, this information did not belong posted on the Internet in the first place. It was a huge naive misjudgement on my part to trust this group enough to share it in confidence.
http://goldmonkey.org/index.php?topic=980.msg12191#msg12191
What is the definition of RESPONSIBLITY?
1. Kyle
made the choice
to join Freebirds.
2. Kyle
made the choice
to divulge information FIRST with no one knowing
anything about his so-called confidentiality agreement with John Silvetti. Either he is just a born blabber-mouth or his conscious is bothering him. Afterall, he is the one that went to New York to try to sell the ROV images of a dead body inside the cage that is believed to be Natalee Holloway
and left out a visit or phone call informing the family of his intentions. Oh golly gee whlikers.
3.
No confidentiality agreement contains the clause to cover-up crimes.
AND looky here, Kyle seems to have found work and lots of it.
KINGMAN GEOPHYSICAL SOLUTIONS BLOG:
WEDNESDAY,
SEPTEMBER 23, 2009
Current Project: Search for Admiral Yi's Turtle Ships
Geophysical team leader for Aqua Survey, Inc. and Korea's Marine Resource & Cultural Foundation sponsored search for Admiral Yi's famous Turtle ships.
In the 1590s, one of the greatest battles in naval history was fought near the southern tip of Korea by one of the most brilliant naval strategists to have ever lived. Today, not many people outside of Korea know of Admiral Yi Sun-sin and his ingenious Turtle ships, but to Koreans they are the stuff of legend. Aqua Survey Inc. were contacted by the Marine Resource & Cultural Foundation of South Korea and given the great honor of a very special mission: to locate and raise one of Admiral Yi's famous Turtle Ships. ASI's recently developed electromagnetic metal detection system will play a pivotal role in our success. To learn more, go to:
http://www.aquasurvey.com/
http://geosolutions.blogspot.com/
WEDNESDAY,
SEPTEMBER 9, 2009
Atlantic City Wind Farm
Field project manager; geophysical survey for a proposed wind farm offshore Atlantic City, NJ.
Posted by Kyle Kingman at 8:25 PM 0 comments
Labels: Atlantic City wind farm
TUESDAY,
JULY 28, 2009
Skagerrak 1, 2, &3 HVDC Cable Inspection and Survey
Party Chief on board the Vos Satisfaction for Deep Ocean- Skagerrak 1, 2, and 3 HVDC cable route survey and cable inspections. Supporter-4 working class ROV fitted with: Reson 8125 dual head multibeam sonar, side scan sonar, Innovatum MaxTrak 4-sensor cable tracker, transverse gradiometric EM array, and a 3-camera video array. Survey and inspect 3 HVDC cables crossing the North Sea totaling about 360 kilometers.
THURSDAY,
JULY 2, 2009
Skaggerak-4 Deep Ocean HVDC Cable Route Survey
Party Chief for Deep Ocean Skaggerak-4 HVDC cable route survey, North Sea; Denmark to Norway on board the VOS Satisfaction. Approximately 1,230 survey line kilometers.
Vos Satisfaction
Posted by Kyle Kingman at 12:35 PM 0 comments
Labels: HVDC Cable, North Sea, Skaggerak 4, Statnett
http://geosolutions.blogspot.com
billb...snip
payoff is my gut reaction
...but surely I must be wrong.....
Kermit...snip
AND looky here, Kyle seems to have found work and lots of it.
That has been my belief...that kyle received work to remain silent and deny Natalee and her family Justice...
mhoo....
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #827 12/9/09 -
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Reply #1911 on:
January 27, 2010, 02:36:01 PM »
Quote from: texasmom on January 27, 2010, 02:30:05 AM
JMO
There are those who would like nothing better than to see us all throw up our hands in frustration and give up! It would probably be very surprising to some, the lengths that some of "those" will go to with the hope that will happen. It would probably be even more surprising who they will try to work "through". Perhaps they've even ordered advance copies of a book that's being written?
There have been plenty of knowitall's that have come and gone, we all know the signs by now.
As Anna has stated many times, we know what we know.
Don't be distracted. Don't take the bait, stay strong.
If need be, call a
spade
liar a
spade
liar with their "own words".
Scroll by that post that aggravates, even if it's a drive by rehash that's 3,681 words long
and couldn't possibly induce any meaningful discussion
. And then make a post of your own to show your support for Natalee and her family.
Don't forget what we're here for.
It's all about Natalee.
Thanks for that post TM and it is so true.
Those writing the book have no interest in finding Natalee or helping her family seek justice from Aruba.
Those writing the book are only looking for fodder for the pages by nit picking at every word that some
may utter while trying to help Natalee's family. It is no better than Kyle trying to sell the ROV footage.
Poor Natalee has been lost in all of this.
It would be much easier to just walk away from the madness....but we can't do that.
Many may utter the cry "Justice for Natalee" but I think few carry that in their heart.
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TxMom thank you for the news articles.
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Hi Magnolia...!
It is hard to tell sometimes just who wants what.
I would like justice for Natalee, but I thought it would happen years ago....so I don't live
for that.
I do think the information that is provided here about what Aruba really is in that dark
underbelly may prevent another tragedy for another visitor. If even one person
decides not to go there or if one person becomes more aware of what can happen
when traveling, I think this is what Beth wants...and this is Natalee's legacy...(I do hope
I am using the word correctly...something handed down from the past). I would love
that everyone who hears Natalee's name thinks about her and what happened and how
it happened.
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Quote from: Mere on January 27, 2010, 03:00:02 PM
Hi Magnolia...!
It is hard to tell sometimes just who wants what.
I would like justice for Natalee, but I thought it would happen years ago....so I don't live
for that.
I do think the information that is provided here about what Aruba really is in that dark
underbelly may prevent another tragedy for another visitor. If even one person
decides not to go there or if one person becomes more aware of what can happen
when traveling, I think this is what Beth wants...and this is Natalee's legacy...(I do hope
I am using the word correctly...something handed down from the past). I would love
that everyone who hears Natalee's name thinks about her and what happened and how
it happened.
Hi Mere,
I think you are right. The island of Aruba will forever be clouded with suspicion because of
Natalee. I believe that if they had chosen to solve the case the cloud could have been lifted.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #827 12/9/09 -
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Quote from: billb on January 27, 2010, 11:41:02 AM
Quote from: Kermit on January 27, 2010, 02:34:09 AM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 26, 2010, 06:38:48 PM
Quote from: billb on January 26, 2010, 01:19:17 AM
7. It was Kyle Kingman's sincere desire to expose the truth behind the Persistence betrayal in a compiled document to Beth Holloway in hopes that pressure could be put on Aruba to reveal what may have been recovered from the trap on January 7, 2008. In pursuance of that goal ... Kyle solicited the assistance of those who belonged to a private forum ... those whose objective was that justice would ultimately prevailed for Natalee Holloway. However ... Kyle backtracked on his original honorable intentions. Why? What was the motivation to betray Natalee Holloway ... betray her family?
Thanks for posting this Janet....
I sincerely hope this question gets answered in due course......
payoff is my gut reaction
...but surely I must be wrong.....
Hi billb
You could be right but ... I did not find any indication of a payoff in my reading of Kyle Kingman’s Own Words. On the other hand ... there are indications that Kyle feared a lawsuit being filed in regards to the breaking of a confidentiality agreement and … this young man does imply that future career opportunities were at risk.
Unless otherwise indicated … I will continue to give Kyle the benefit of the doubt that his motivation to backtrack was damage control in regards to the grim reality concerning the financial security of his family. Was Kyle right? No way! His flip flopping in his original determination to expose what troubled him in regards to the happenings on board the Persistence … happenings encompassing the trap … was an ultimate betrayal of Natalee Holloway and her family.
When all is said and done … while not condoning ... I can … to some degree … understand Kyle’s motivation but … it is always right to do right and … let the outcome play out. Maybe ... it is not too late.
Janet
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #786 12/17/08 -
« Reply #540 on: December 19, 2008, 06:15:18 PM
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Kyle sent me this today.
Kermit,
… The information you have been spreading is not only inaccurate and a violation of a non-disclosure, it is slanderous and spreading misinformation.
The damage it has done to my professional relationship with J. Silvetti is incalculable which has a direct effect on my ability to provide for my family
, which includes my daughter named after Natalee …
Sincerely,
Kyle
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4246.msg592482;topicseen#msg592482
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Re: The Cage « Reply #157 on: March 19, 2009, 12:25:09 pm »
The last posts are taken from the e-mail that Kyle sent to Jug and I in December
Kyle Kingman:
I didn't threaten any of them.
I said that I personally didn't want to get sued for breaking a confidentiality agreement with information ending up on the Internet.
Them pushing it all out put me at risk legally and jeopardized my relationship with John
(which is now destroyed over this). Also, this information did not belong posted on the Internet in the first place. It was a huge naive misjudgement on my part to trust this group enough to share it in confidence.
http://goldmonkey.org/index.php?topic=980.msg12191#msg12191
What is the definition of RESPONSIBLITY?
1. Kyle
made the choice
to join Freebirds.
2. Kyle
made the choice
to divulge information FIRST with no one knowing
anything about his so-called confidentiality agreement with John Silvetti. Either he is just a born blabber-mouth or his conscious is bothering him. Afterall, he is the one that went to New York to try to sell the ROV images of a dead body inside the cage that is believed to be Natalee Holloway
and left out a visit or phone call informing the family of his intentions. Oh golly gee whlikers.
3.
No confidentiality agreement contains the clause to cover-up crimes.
AND looky here, Kyle seems to have found work and lots of it.
KINGMAN GEOPHYSICAL SOLUTIONS BLOG:
WEDNESDAY,
SEPTEMBER 23, 2009
Current Project: Search for Admiral Yi's Turtle Ships
Geophysical team leader for Aqua Survey, Inc. and Korea's Marine Resource & Cultural Foundation sponsored search for Admiral Yi's famous Turtle ships.
In the 1590s, one of the greatest battles in naval history was fought near the southern tip of Korea by one of the most brilliant naval strategists to have ever lived. Today, not many people outside of Korea know of Admiral Yi Sun-sin and his ingenious Turtle ships, but to Koreans they are the stuff of legend. Aqua Survey Inc. were contacted by the Marine Resource & Cultural Foundation of South Korea and given the great honor of a very special mission: to locate and raise one of Admiral Yi's famous Turtle Ships. ASI's recently developed electromagnetic metal detection system will play a pivotal role in our success. To learn more, go to:
http://www.aquasurvey.com/
http://geosolutions.blogspot.com/
WEDNESDAY,
SEPTEMBER 9, 2009
Atlantic City Wind Farm
Field project manager; geophysical survey for a proposed wind farm offshore Atlantic City, NJ.
Posted by Kyle Kingman at 8:25 PM 0 comments
Labels: Atlantic City wind farm
TUESDAY,
JULY 28, 2009
Skagerrak 1, 2, &3 HVDC Cable Inspection and Survey
Party Chief on board the Vos Satisfaction for Deep Ocean- Skagerrak 1, 2, and 3 HVDC cable route survey and cable inspections. Supporter-4 working class ROV fitted with: Reson 8125 dual head multibeam sonar, side scan sonar, Innovatum MaxTrak 4-sensor cable tracker, transverse gradiometric EM array, and a 3-camera video array. Survey and inspect 3 HVDC cables crossing the North Sea totaling about 360 kilometers.
THURSDAY,
JULY 2, 2009
Skaggerak-4 Deep Ocean HVDC Cable Route Survey
Party Chief for Deep Ocean Skaggerak-4 HVDC cable route survey, North Sea; Denmark to Norway on board the VOS Satisfaction. Approximately 1,230 survey line kilometers.
Vos Satisfaction
Posted by Kyle Kingman at 12:35 PM 0 comments
Labels: HVDC Cable, North Sea, Skaggerak 4, Statnett
http://geosolutions.blogspot.com
billb...snip
payoff is my gut reaction
...but surely I must be wrong.....
Kermit...snip
AND looky here, Kyle seems to have found work and lots of it.
That has been my belief...that kyle received work to
remain
silent and deny Natalee and her family Justice...
mhoo....
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TxMom thank you for the news articles.
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Good afternoon Monkeys!
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #827 12/9/09 -
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January 27, 2010, 06:13:41 PM »
Quote from: can on January 27, 2010, 09:57:43 AM
Quote from: texasmom on January 27, 2010, 02:30:05 AM
JMO
There are those who would like nothing better than to see us all throw up our hands in frustration and give up! It would probably be very surprising to some, the lengths that some of "those" will go to with the hope that will happen. It would probably be even more surprising who they will try to work "through". Perhaps they've even ordered advance copies of a book that's being written?
There have been plenty of knowitall's that have come and gone, we all know the signs by now.
As Anna has stated many times, we know what we know.
Don't be distracted. Don't take the bait, stay strong.
If need be, call a
spade
liar a
spade
liar with their "own words".
Scroll by that post that aggravates, even if it's a drive by rehash that's 3,681 words long
and couldn't possibly induce any meaningful discussion
. And then make a post of your own to show your support for Natalee and her family.
Don't forget what we're here for.
It's all about Natalee.
texasmom - I am posting to express once again my support for Natalee and her family. I don't do it often enough.
May justice find a way!
texasmom - your para. 1. I wouldn't be the least surprised that someone
is attempting to write a book. I've often wondered...
Are you guessing? Can you say more?
Thanks for posting today, can!
About the book...I believe it's been mentioned here more than once, iirc.
Anything further would be my opinion only since I don't have many facts, and don't really care to know more about it.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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