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« Reply #1380 on: November 23, 2009, 11:49:54 AM »

After reading the poem that Aunt Carrie wrote for Shaniya...I won't be viewing the funeral at all!! my heart could not take it...
I think that poem was the most beautiful thing that I have ever read and it is truly from her heart...it saddens me to no end for the pain that Shaniya must have suffered for no darn good reason except for another persons sick sick pleasure...and now her suffering is over sadly, and the rest who are left will now do the suffering...senseless...all of it...
I think that Carrie's hands were tied...if Brad said that Shaniya was going to her bio's...no matter how much Carrie would plea and cry, if she did, it would not have mattered if Brad said that she must go..
I think that Brad could have bought the bio off with money to keep Shaniya from going there and meanwhile get the court proceedings going to get permanent custody of Shaniya with supervised visits with the bio and this would have never happened...jmo....if Brad gave bio enough money a month she would not have wanted this baby...she would have been happier with the money for her drug use ..Shaniya was cash for the bio...not a child to love and cherish...Brad could have kept Shaniya safe with Carrie and Shaniya would have had her life...I am beyond angry at all of this
I can't argue with anything you just posted, this is beyond tragic.

ITA Cookie.. Why take chance and let this beautiful child stay with the monster when Carey has taken great care of Shaniya, Shaniya just started school -meeting friends ,in a safe inviroment, she was happy , smiling and  just like Byron stated ..IMO There is more than meets the eye why Brad let her stay there @ the POS monster home. There were red flags flying everywhere...

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Rosie and JG...the pictures of Shaniya with MM are permanently ingrained in my brain and my heart...
I just keep telling myself over and over..this did not need to happen, this did not need to happen to this little girl...I shut my eyes at night and I see her in his arms...I wake up in the mornings and I see it...I wake up during the night and I see it...sigh....this one has really hit me hard....I suppose just seeing the images of her and knowing what was about to happen to her and perhaps seeing her after that happened to her is depressingly sad to me...I am really having a hard time with the senselessness of all of it...how can anyone do this to an innocent child...my heart breaks....
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« Reply #1381 on: November 23, 2009, 12:00:17 PM »

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« Reply #1382 on: November 23, 2009, 12:02:44 PM »

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Thanks!  I think we all need hugs... there are a lot of raw feelings and emotions in here.... this particular crime has touched me like no other and so hard to get over.....
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« Reply #1383 on: November 23, 2009, 12:06:21 PM »

I was wondering about Byron.....was he a child that vicki had before that she married Brad or does he belong to Brad? I am asking because his name is Coleman and Cheyennes is Lockhart....Did  the grandparents adopt him? ....I can't imagine them adopting Byron and not Cheyenne....I am wondering if he decided to change his name from Lockhart to Coleman after he turned 18?
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« Reply #1384 on: November 23, 2009, 12:09:21 PM »

Also I keep thinking about the stuffed animal that Shaniya  was holding.....She did not have it when she went in but had it when she came out....If they look at the comings and goings of the guests they may find someone carrying the animal in into the hotel...or if there is a nearby store that carries that animal then the 3rd party may be on that store camara???
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« Reply #1385 on: November 23, 2009, 12:31:01 PM »

The nationwide crackdown on child pornography and other sex offenses has created severe manpower shortages and technology challenges for probation officers, police and federal agents struggling to track offenders who are jumping online with cellphones and portable game systems and flocking to social networking and other sites, where children or pornography can easily be found.

There are more than 716,000 registered sex offenders nationwide, according to the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children, a 78 percent increase since 2001, and that does not include all offenders because some crimes do not require registration. Sex-offender registries have grown even faster in the Washington area, with more than 24,000 people listed. Not all receive the scrutiny given to such offenders as Shelton.

The focus on crimes against children that began in the Bush administration shows no sign of abating under President Obama. Federal child sexual exploitation prosecutions are up 147 percent since 2002, and the Justice Department is hiring 81 more prosecutors for these cases. Funding for task forces that bring charges in state courts rose this year from $16 million to $75 million.

But many of those offenders are now leaving prison, even as revenue-strapped states are cutting the budgets of probation departments. In Virginia, probation and parole cuts this year totaled nearly $10 million, including $500,000 for electronic monitoring of sexually violent predators. Maryland also has cut its budget.

"The burden on probation and parole officers is going to explode," said Ernie Allen, the national center's president.

The monitoring of virtually all sex offenders is required by law when they are on probation or parole.

The problem has gained national attention with the discovery of 10 bodies and a skull at a registered sex offender's home in Cleveland and revelations that Jaycee Lee Dugard was kidnapped at age 11 in 1991 and allegedly held captive at a California sex offender's house until her reappearance in August. Officers had visited both homes and noticed nothing wrong.

Those cases underscore a troubled registry system that has been the public face of sex-offender monitoring. An estimated 100,000 offenders do not comply with registration requirements. Law enforcement doesn't know where many of them are.

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« Reply #1386 on: November 23, 2009, 12:32:32 PM »

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Thanks!  I think we all need hugs... there are a lot of raw feelings and emotions in here.... this particular crime has touched me like no other and so hard to get over.....

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thanks for the Monkey hug...needed that JG...
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« Reply #1387 on: November 23, 2009, 01:04:23 PM »

This case is so sad..oh Cookie I am so sorry you are having such a difficult time.

I think the ones with video's are the hardest, remember Sandra and Tori? We saw both of them minutes or hours before they died, same with little Shaniya. But this is different, we see her being carried by the man accused of this horrible crime. Never had I seen the look of a child who had been assulted and the fear on her face...ugh makes my heart sick. It brings out my instincts I suppose because I want to go into that pic and take her back!

I am struggling inside because I have so much anger at so many people in the family of AD who have spoken out and with Brad. I feel I can't say anything because I don't want it to be taken wrong, so I am finding myself very frustrated by this whole thing.

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« Reply #1388 on: November 23, 2009, 01:13:29 PM »

This case is so sad..oh Cookie I am so sorry you are having such a difficult time.

I think the ones with video's are the hardest, remember Sandra and Tori? We saw both of them minutes or hours before they died, same with little Shaniya. But this is different, we see her being carried by the man accused of this horrible crime. Never had I seen the look of a child who had been assulted and the fear on her face...ugh makes my heart sick. It brings out my instincts I suppose because I want to go into that pic and take her back!

I am struggling inside because I have so much anger at so many people in the family of AD who have spoken out and with Brad. I feel I can't say anything because I don't want it to be taken wrong, so I am finding myself very frustrated by this whole thing.



I am right there on that branch with you.  I am torn because I know how I would react to someone harming my child, and trying to be objective and remember that not everyone processes or feels things the way I do.   Hug to you, honey!   
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« Reply #1389 on: November 23, 2009, 01:20:40 PM »

evening Monkeys....
I am disgusted that the bio mom was mentioned in the obit for this baby... sorry, but I just about puked when I say her name up there, right along with the father...and the Aunt  Carrie was not even mentioned??? the only one who probably did love this child the most...so very very wrong imo...
I have not brought myself to see the funeral yet...


Just to mention, the other night on one of the talk shows, Pat Brown the profiler said that the father  was negligent for allowing this child to be with this mother..,.,so it isn't just Monkeys on here and other people on the boards that think this way...It seems that everyone in Shaniya's family failed this beautiful child...I am so upset about this happening to her...it never should have happened to her...it could have been prevented..and I am just so sad over this..and angry !



lol, Pat Brown was wrong about Elizabeth Olten, she said it was gonna be a soft kill.( so did NG )

IMO, There's 2 people who are responsible, the evil devilmama (and McNeill) who wanted Shaniya for a reason, why take her out of school? for what reason?, then keep it secret? I do not believe she was ever on that couch that morning. How did she know she didn't have her shoe's so quickly? Did she look for them before calling 911? Nope, she wanted to make it look like a kidnapping. I believe the devileggdonor planned this and prostituted her the whole time she had her. In hindsight, of course Brad should have gotten legal custody, but would that have saved Shaniya if her mom had visitation rights?IMO No, Shaniya was only useful for 1 reason to her. My x had unsupervised visitation, I tried to fight it, crying didn't help, he didn't have to prove he could even care for her, had anything for a baby. He molested her(not intercourse), and I couldn't do anything to the judge, but hate him and the judge. He had to sign away his parental rights or get prosecuted. So IMO the only 2 that failed her was her devil of a egg donor and the rapist/murderer. JMO
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« Reply #1390 on: November 23, 2009, 01:31:57 PM »

evening Monkeys....
I am disgusted that the bio mom was mentioned in the obit for this baby... sorry, but I just about puked when I say her name up there, right along with the father...and the Aunt  Carrie was not even mentioned??? the only one who probably did love this child the most...so very very wrong imo...
I have not brought myself to see the funeral yet...


Just to mention, the other night on one of the talk shows, Pat Brown the profiler said that the father  was negligent for allowing this child to be with this mother..,.,so it isn't just Monkeys on here and other people on the boards that think this way...It seems that everyone in Shaniya's family failed this beautiful child...I am so upset about this happening to her...it never should have happened to her...it could have been prevented..and I am just so sad over this..and angry !



lol, Pat Brown was wrong about Elizabeth Olten, she said it was gonna be a soft kill.( so did NG )

IMO, There's 2 people who are responsible, the evil devilmama (and McNeill) who wanted Shaniya for a reason, why take her out of school? for what reason?, then keep it secret? I do not believe she was ever on that couch that morning. How did she know she didn't have her shoe's so quickly? Did she look for them before calling 911? Nope, she wanted to make it look like a kidnapping. I believe the devileggdonor planned this and prostituted her the whole time she had her. In hindsight, of course Brad should have gotten legal custody, but would that have saved Shaniya if her mom had visitation rights?IMO No, Shaniya was only useful for 1 reason to her. My x had unsupervised visitation, I tried to fight it, crying didn't help, he didn't have to prove he could even care for her, had anything for a baby. He molested her(not intercourse), and I couldn't do anything to the judge, but hate him and the judge. He had to sign away his parental rights or get prosecuted. So IMO the only 2 that failed her was her devil of a egg donor and the rapist/murderer. JMO

OMG Razzy... my heart goes out to you.  You have been through a lot but now your baby is safe?  God Bless you. an angelic monkey
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« Reply #1391 on: November 23, 2009, 01:36:59 PM »

As the primary care givers to children with screwed up other parents we have the obligation and responsibility to take extra precautions to protect our children. This woman had a history of drugs, the dad says he didn't know this..well this proves my point, why and how could he not know this! That argument doesn't play with me. It was his responsibility to know this.
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« Reply #1392 on: November 23, 2009, 01:39:18 PM »

As the primary care givers to children with screwed up other parents we have the obligation and responsibility to take extra precautions to protect our children. This woman had a history of drugs, the dad says he didn't know this..well this proves my point, why and how could he not know this! That argument doesn't play with me. It was his responsibility to know this.


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« Reply #1393 on: November 23, 2009, 01:47:39 PM »

Razzy1, I am so sorry for the problems you and your child have had. You stood up and tried and fought for your child. God only knows what could have happened if you didn't.

 
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« Reply #1394 on: November 23, 2009, 01:51:52 PM »

This case is so sad..oh Cookie I am so sorry you are having such a difficult time.

I think the ones with video's are the hardest, remember Sandra and Tori? We saw both of them minutes or hours before they died, same with little Shaniya. But this is different, we see her being carried by the man accused of this horrible crime. Never had I seen the look of a child who had been assulted and the fear on her face...ugh makes my heart sick. It brings out my instincts I suppose because I want to go into that pic and take her back!

I am struggling inside because I have so much anger at so many people in the family of AD who have spoken out and with Brad. I feel I can't say anything because I don't want it to be taken wrong, so I am finding myself very frustrated by this whole thing.


o/t but sandra cantu the one with the woman sex predator iirc the boyfriend was involved and they both took part in the molestation/rape?
was there video taping involved... i guess what i am trying to say is were they trying to make kiddie porn? tia if anyone knows... i haven't followed that case and can't checkj her thread cuz i'm at work and my computer is waaaaay too slow
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« Reply #1395 on: November 23, 2009, 01:51:53 PM »

evening Monkeys....
I am disgusted that the bio mom was mentioned in the obit for this baby... sorry, but I just about puked when I say her name up there, right along with the father...and the Aunt  Carrie was not even mentioned??? the only one who probably did love this child the most...so very very wrong imo...
I have not brought myself to see the funeral yet...


Just to mention, the other night on one of the talk shows, Pat Brown the profiler said that the father  was negligent for allowing this child to be with this mother..,.,so it isn't just Monkeys on here and other people on the boards that think this way...It seems that everyone in Shaniya's family failed this beautiful child...I am so upset about this happening to her...it never should have happened to her...it could have been prevented..and I am just so sad over this..and angry !



lol, Pat Brown was wrong about Elizabeth Olten, she said it was gonna be a soft kill.( so did NG )

IMO, There's 2 people who are responsible, the evil devilmama (and McNeill) who wanted Shaniya for a reason, why take her out of school? for what reason?, then keep it secret? I do not believe she was ever on that couch that morning. How did she know she didn't have her shoe's so quickly? Did she look for them before calling 911? Nope, she wanted to make it look like a kidnapping. I believe the devileggdonor planned this and prostituted her the whole time she had her. In hindsight, of course Brad should have gotten legal custody, but would that have saved Shaniya if her mom had visitation rights?IMO No, Shaniya was only useful for 1 reason to her. My x had unsupervised visitation, I tried to fight it, crying didn't help, he didn't have to prove he could even care for her, had anything for a baby. He molested her(not intercourse), and I couldn't do anything to the judge, but hate him and the judge. He had to sign away his parental rights or get prosecuted. So IMO the only 2 that failed her was her devil of a egg donor and the rapist/murderer. JMO

OMG Razzy... my heart goes out to you.  You have been through a lot but now your baby is safe?  God Bless you. an angelic monkey


Thank You Bananas, she is doing fine, she's now 20 and wants to be a detective. She was to young to testify, she was 3. That why we couldn't prosecute. He signed away his parental rights, he failed a poly. I still blame the judge. Well both him and the judge. She didn't even realize what she was telling. He still lives local, if I ever see him in the mall I will walk up and punch him in the face been waiting years to do that. Then call my daughter for bail, lol
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« Reply #1396 on: November 23, 2009, 02:12:23 PM »

Razzy1, I am so sorry for the problems you and your child have had. You stood up and tried and fought for your child. God only knows what could have happened if you didn't.

 
I agree with you Tracygirl. Razzy1  an angelic monkey   I'm curious what other charges AD may get, let's hope there are more charges, but I have no idea.
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« Reply #1397 on: November 23, 2009, 02:26:14 PM »

As the primary care givers to children with screwed up other parents we have the obligation and responsibility to take extra precautions to protect our children. This woman had a history of drugs, the dad says he didn't know this..well this proves my point, why and how could he not know this! That argument doesn't play with me. It was his responsibility to know this.


How would Brad know what she does when Shaniya hasn't been there? He wasn't even notified she was taken out of school and I'm sure he and Aunt Carey were on the emergency cards. There's a lawsuit waiting to happen. If her name wasn't on the emergency card I don't think she could remove her from school. I know in Mi. you have to go to the Board Of Education in the school's district to remove them from school or transfer them.


p.s per your other post, thnaks, I did fight for her, it fell on deaf ears. I found out if someone wants to hide anything about themselves they certainly can. Not that he was a prior pedo( I don't know) , but he was a big ugly liar and prone to violence, and hid it.LOL my pregnancy by him lasted longer than the marriage, 
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« Reply #1398 on: November 23, 2009, 02:32:35 PM »

This case is so sad..oh Cookie I am so sorry you are having such a difficult time.

I think the ones with video's are the hardest, remember Sandra and Tori? We saw both of them minutes or hours before they died, same with little Shaniya. But this is different, we see her being carried by the man accused of this horrible crime. Never had I seen the look of a child who had been assulted and the fear on her face...ugh makes my heart sick. It brings out my instincts I suppose because I want to go into that pic and take her back!

I am struggling inside because I have so much anger at so many people in the family of AD who have spoken out and with Brad. I feel I can't say anything because I don't want it to be taken wrong, so I am finding myself very frustrated by this whole thing.


o/t but sandra cantu the one with the woman sex predator iirc the boyfriend was involved and they both took part in the molestation/rape?
was there video taping involved... i guess what i am trying to say is were they trying to make kiddie porn? tia if anyone knows... i haven't followed that case and can't checkj her thread cuz i'm at work and my computer is waaaaay too slow

HI, just Melissa Huckaby is charged with Sandra's heinous murder. She drugged some guy but all I have read is they can't find him. Haven't read of any video tape involved. But I do think Melissa is trying to ACT mentally ill, won't work, IMO
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« Reply #1399 on: November 23, 2009, 02:50:08 PM »

As the primary care givers to children with screwed up other parents we have the obligation and responsibility to take extra precautions to protect our children. This woman had a history of drugs, the dad says he didn't know this..well this proves my point, why and how could he not know this! That argument doesn't play with me. It was his responsibility to know this.


How would Brad know what she does when Shaniya hasn't been there? He wasn't even notified she was taken out of school and I'm sure he and Aunt Carey were on the emergency cards. There's a lawsuit waiting to happen. If her name wasn't on the emergency card I don't think she could remove her from school. I know in Mi. you have to go to the Board Of Education in the school's district to remove them from school or transfer them.


p.s per your other post, thnaks, I did fight for her, it fell on deaf ears. I found out if someone wants to hide anything about themselves they certainly can. Not that he was a prior pedo( I don't know) , but he was a big ugly liar and prone to violence, and hid it.LOL my pregnancy by him lasted longer than the marriage, 

Well that was his responsibility to check it out. How do I know what my ex does and doesn't do, where he lives and the conditions of such, I find out. If his story is true (there has been a few different things said), but if it is true that she has not been much of a mother to Shaniya, she gave her up so Shaniya could have a better environment, well that in itself would warrant a visit by dad to check things out, talk with her, sit down and see what he was sending his daughter into. Why didn't he know she had been taken out of school? I sure would know if my child had been taken out, how? by calling and checking in with my child and yes, even the school. When transition times comes for my children, I contact the teacher to inform them and then also check up to see how they are doing. I don't think that is something most people wouldn't do, at least the ones who don't simply entrust God to protect their children. That is not hind sight (spelling?) in my opinion that is common sense and a sense of the god given responsibility we have as parents. Did he rape and kill her, no. But he dropped the ball with this little girl and as badly as I feel for him I can no longer pretend he didn't.
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