August 20, 2018, 08:33:37 AM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News: NEW CHILD BOARD CREATED IN THE POLITICAL SECTION FOR THE 2016 ELECTION
 
   Home   Help Login Register  
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 »   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Shaniya Nicole Davis #2 11/17/09 -  (Read 525849 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
penny for your thoughts
Monkey Junky
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 1784



« Reply #1660 on: December 06, 2009, 10:07:08 AM »

snip from Wyks quote:

Am not sure how to put this.  Am thinking that because of what she 'allegedly' has done, Shaniya ended up dead.  Doesn't she then need to share the murder charge along with the accused?  Sigh.  It's a good thing am not on the jury.   Am just so angry and disgusted with what do know about those who were 'supposed to' love and care for Shaniya.   


Wykkers....NG keeps saying, when she talks about it, that a crime that was committed that she was a part of and it turns to death, then she would/could face the same charges as the perp who actually did the crime....<<<not the exact words, but the general idea.....sortof like if a person is part of a robbery and one person ends up shooting a person, both are guilty of murder if the victim dies...that type of thing is how I imagine it would be ....someone else can probably explain it better but that is the gist that I get....


The last I have heard is the police are still investigating numerous tips and they are keeping additional charges close to the vest.

IMO: I have a feeling deals are going to be made, in which the egg donor will be testifing against McNeill.....BUT I sure hope the heck not.  She should be charged with murder, she sent her child to be raped and was murder...She should have the exact same charges of Murder.

What you are thinking of is felony murder.  What that means is that a murder committed during the commission of a felony constitutes murder in the first degree as a matter of law for all those who participated in the commission of the felony, whether or not the crime of murder was intended or not.  Here, a strong legal argument can be made that AD is guilty of felony murder as her daughter was murdered during the commission of a felony--child trafficking and prostitution.

Someone asked why McNeill's arraignment on the kidnapping charge has been "delayed" beyond his other charges.  The reason, I suppose, is that it will be the most difficult to prove.  Why?  Because he allegedly had the mother's consent to take Shaniya.  So query whether a kidnapping occurred at all.  And to be honest with you, it's a throw-away charge.  They don't need it.  They have him for murder and rape of a child.


thanks jess for clearing tat up...i was thinking felony murder scenario for ad too...
o/t but these are the types of people into kid porn
http://www.telegram.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091205/NEWS/912050358
he got to stay home with his mommy and daddy so he could go to therapy.... chit bag
Logged
cookie
Monkey Mega Star
******
Offline Offline

Posts: 15663



« Reply #1661 on: December 06, 2009, 12:19:54 PM »

Mizjay, so well said and I could not agree with you more. I resent anyone who tells others what to do when they themselves have ignored the voice of reason. The time for Mr. Lockhart to be a voice for children at risk has passed. He was not the protector that his own daughter deserved. It is a little late to be concerned when your child has suffered the ultimate torture that a little girl can experience at the hand of the one you willingly handed her over to. Shaniya needed her dad's voice to say "no, you may be the mom, but you cannot have her." At least not until she was proven to be an appropriate and safe caregiver. JMO

BLUMONKEY    Thanks, and the last line of your post is the whole point. Exactly. Even if the "new" home wasn't in a rough neighborhood, even if the place didn't look like a sty, even if there wasn't a crowd of people living there,  didn't she deserve to be able to transition into the radically different environment?  If it was fact that she was only sent with clothes for a couple of days and  if the mother said she wasn't gonna let her go home, that wouldn't be worth the flight home? Red flags were everywhere. Maybe women/mothers are naturally more protective than men?  Anyway, you're right, the voice of reason was ignored.

COOKIE      glad we're of same mind (was worried it sounded too harsh) 

same mind on this...good thoughtful posts from you in my opinion..but maybe cause your thoughts are my thoughts ...lol!
Logged

annemarie
Scared Monkey
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 10


« Reply #1662 on: December 06, 2009, 06:44:13 PM »

Am I reading this right?  Antoinette has been rescheduled til FEB 18th??   

And if so..... wth??  That's over 2 months away!!  Why such a long time?  Here I was expecting new charges for her anyday now.  Geeeeez. 

http://www1.aoc.state.nc.us/www/calendars.Offense.do?submit=submit&case=2502009065835&court=CR&defendant=DAVIS,ANTONIETTE&courtDate=02/18/2010&county=CUMBERLAND&session=AM&courtRoom=002B

It looks like Mario will be in court on Dec 9th for the rape/murder charges.  Then on Jan 10th for the kidnapping charge. 

Weird!  Seems the kidnapping charge ought to go first, but whatever....  Wanna bet his Dec 9th appearance gets rescheduled til after the Jan 10th one? 

Let's just play the delay game.  Is that what they are doing? 

 

This might be the reason for the delay...

In 2005 Congress mandated that due to the BRAC (Base Realignment and Closure) effort Fort Bragg would gain several new commands. The Army will be closing down United States Forces Command and the United States Reserve Command in Atlanta and moving them to Fort Bragg. This move is expected to relocate over 30,000 people to the area as a result of the command changes and businesses that will move to support the command. FORSCOM awards over $300 billion in contracts annually. Fayetteville ******* BRAC: Developers Place Bets on Growth


...multi-million dollar contracts wont happen so easily if there is a notorious case going on in the area!!
Logged
Wyks
Monkey All Star
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 10268



« Reply #1663 on: December 06, 2009, 07:26:56 PM »

This might be the reason for the delay...

In 2005 Congress mandated that due to the BRAC (Base Realignment and Closure) effort Fort Bragg would gain several new commands. The Army will be closing down United States Forces Command and the United States Reserve Command in Atlanta and moving them to Fort Bragg. This move is expected to relocate over 30,000 people to the area as a result of the command changes and businesses that will move to support the command. FORSCOM awards over $300 billion in contracts annually. Fayetteville ******* BRAC: Developers Place Bets on Growth


...multi-million dollar contracts wont happen so easily if there is a notorious case going on in the area!!

Thanks for that info, Annemarie! 

On the one hand, makes sense for why they are delaying, and also for why it seems everything is getting hushed up in the media.   On the other hand, with that kind of project in the works, they surely don't want a high-profile case such as this mucking up their plans.  Might make the area around Ft. Bragg seem 'unsafe' somehow.  Certainly not something they will want their future military/civilian residents to feel when moving to the area.  Pffffft. 

From what I understand, the mobile home park is very close to the main gate at Ft. Bragg?  If so, the mhp will likely will be torn down to be replaced by more upscale housing, or a new mall, etc.  Anything but leaving it there to remind folks of what happened.  Likely there will be no park or playground somewhere in the memory of Shaniya either.   

Politics and money have an evil way of replacing quick justice.   IMO.






Logged

~ 'Things are not always what they seem' ~
Wyks
Monkey All Star
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 10268



« Reply #1664 on: December 06, 2009, 07:31:55 PM »



"The case against Antoinette Davis is strong.  Allegedly, Antoinette Davis allowed Mario McNeill to take Shaniya Davis, her biological daughter, in exchange for money due and sexual transfer.  Shaniya Davis' autopsy proved that 5-year-old Shaniya Davis had been raped and murdered on the day she was reported missing."

http://www.examiner.com/x-17800-Raleigh-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m12d4-Anointette-Davis-Dec-3-2009-Update--Davis-returned-to-court-no-trial-date-set-at-this-time



Logged

~ 'Things are not always what they seem' ~
Wyks
Monkey All Star
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 10268



« Reply #1665 on: December 06, 2009, 07:37:38 PM »






Logged

~ 'Things are not always what they seem' ~
cookie
Monkey Mega Star
******
Offline Offline

Posts: 15663



« Reply #1666 on: December 06, 2009, 07:48:14 PM »

what a beautiful little child she was....makes me sad to think about her and what happened to her...and mad
Logged

MuffyBee
Former Moderator
Monkey Mega Star
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 44681



« Reply #1667 on: December 06, 2009, 09:18:38 PM »

what a beautiful little child she was....makes me sad to think about her and what happened to her...and mad


ITA cookie, ITA.
Logged

  " Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts."  - Daniel Moynihan
Wyks
Monkey All Star
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 10268



« Reply #1668 on: December 07, 2009, 01:54:30 PM »

Have just added the Who's Who thread for Shaniya.  This info has been pulled from many different sources, by many monkeys and others.  Thank you all for your help! 

If anyone has info that is not included, plz add/update in there as needed.  Plz bring any discussion over here, not in that thread.  Thanks! 


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6639.new#new



Logged

~ 'Things are not always what they seem' ~
MuffyBee
Former Moderator
Monkey Mega Star
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 44681



« Reply #1669 on: December 07, 2009, 02:01:49 PM »

Have just added the Who's Who thread for Shaniya.  This info has been pulled from many different sources, by many monkeys and others.  Thank you all for your help! 

If anyone has info that is not included, plz add/update in there as needed.  Plz bring any discussion over here, not in that thread.  Thanks! 


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6639.new#new





Thanks Wyks.   
Logged

  " Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts."  - Daniel Moynihan
4getUnot
Monkey Junky Jr.
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 651



« Reply #1670 on: December 07, 2009, 03:01:24 PM »

trimmonthelake:  I've been reading Bill Kirby's articles and the comments as well.  In another article they were discussing who's to blame and a lot of posters were making some negative comments about the MHP and then the manager of the MHP made some interesting comments in defense of the MHP.

Barbara Davenport Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 10:09 am
C. Pons,
Then stop making statements you have no factual knowledge of.
You stated “Sleepy Hollow is in an area known as “Fayette-Nam” and rife with prostitution
/ drugs / violence”.

I think my priorities are just fine, thank you very much. Would you like it if everyone
started spouting gossip and false statements about you or something you’ve worked hard
for? My primary focus has been on the people who failed that child and this neighborhood
had nothing to do with what happened to her.

http://blogs.fayobserver.com/kirby/2009/11/20/102/

She made some other comments too and IMO she went maybe a little over the top about what a nice place it was to live.
Logged
4getUnot
Monkey Junky Jr.
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 651



« Reply #1671 on: December 07, 2009, 03:03:18 PM »

I made a list of everyone in the mobile home park from the info given in white pages.  I can give you the whole list if you want it.  I went through the list looking to see if there might be anyone we already have info on.  I did find some people with last names that might be of interest but don't know at this point if there may be a connection or just coincidence. I'm not assuming or implying anything just noting the coincidence of the names.

Remember Andrea Moore, the neighbor where the blanket was found in the garbage can?  I didn't find her name listed as a resident, but found two other Moore's listed as residents, one is the owner of the mobile home park.  Am wondering if Andrea is related to either of these in some way.

Mario McNeill's gf is April Autry.  I found an Autry living in the mobile home park. 

There is another Davis, besides Brenda and Antoinette, living in the mobile home park.

Brad's former wife was Vickie Coleman Lockhart, now deceased.  In her obituary, her grandmother was mentioned, Patsy Mack.  There are two Mack's living in the mobile home park. 

Vickie's maiden name was Coleman, her parents got custody of and raised Vickie's four children, three with Brad.  There are two Coleman's living in the mobile home park. 
 
The article about Vickie's death mentions another person who was injured in that home invasion, a Tyrone Parker.  There are three Parker's living in the mobile home park. 

Judge Tal Baggett was the judge in Antoinette's arraignment hearing.  There is a Baggett living in the mobile home park.

Ty (Tyrongella) Davis was supposedly the former fiance of Brad, they were to marry next April, now supposedly broken up.  Ty's family may include a McLaughlin.  The funeral for Shaniya was held at the McLaughlin Chapel. 
Logged
4getUnot
Monkey Junky Jr.
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 651



« Reply #1672 on: December 07, 2009, 03:50:41 PM »



"The case against Antoinette Davis is strong.  Allegedly, Antoinette Davis allowed Mario McNeil to take Shaniya Davis, her biological daughter, in exchange for money due and sexual transfer.  Shaniya Davis' autopsy proved that 5-year-old Shaniya Davis had been raped and murdered on the day she was reported missing."

http://www.examiner.com/x-17800-Raleigh-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m12d4-Anointette-Davis-Dec-3-2009-Update--Davis-returned-to-court-no-trial-date-set-at-this-time




Makes me wonder if this is the first and only time Antoinette did this...  and was Mcneil accustomed to accepting sex with children as payment for debts?  Antoinette's uncle said she had been living in apartments and motels (??) before winding up at the mobile home park.  I'd really like to know what kind of motels or hotels and if she was opearting her "business" out of them.  It keeps going through my head that the video of McNeil was him going into the hotel with Shaniya at 6:11am.  Going into the hotel????  Most folks are checking out in the morning not checking in.  In the pics from the video McNeil sure didn't look as if he was the least bit afraid of arousing any suspicion.  Wouldn't that arouse suspicion?  If not, why not?  Was that room rented for a long period of time (days, weeks, months???)  and by whom?  Did Brad and Antoinette share a one night stand in a similar setting five years ago or did he just pick her up in a bar one night? 
Logged
mizjay
Monkey Junky
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 3430



« Reply #1673 on: December 07, 2009, 06:52:30 PM »



"The case against Antoinette Davis is strong.  Allegedly, Antoinette Davis allowed Mario McNeil to take Shaniya Davis, her biological daughter, in exchange for money due and sexual transfer.  Shaniya Davis' autopsy proved that 5-year-old Shaniya Davis had been raped and murdered on the day she was reported missing."

http://www.examiner.com/x-17800-Raleigh-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m12d4-Anointette-Davis-Dec-3-2009-Update--Davis-returned-to-court-no-trial-date-set-at-this-time




Makes me wonder if this is the first and only time Antoinette did this...  and was Mcneil accustomed to accepting sex with children as payment for debts?  Antoinette's uncle said she had been living in apartments and motels (??) before winding up at the mobile home park.  I'd really like to know what kind of motels or hotels and if she was opearting her "business" out of them.  It keeps going through my head that the video of McNeil was him going into the hotel with Shaniya at 6:11am.  Going into the hotel????  Most folks are checking out in the morning not checking in.  In the pics from the video McNeil sure didn't look as if he was the least bit afraid of arousing any suspicion.  Wouldn't that arouse suspicion?  If not, why not?  Was that room rented for a long period of time (days, weeks, months???)  and by whom?  Did Brad and Antoinette share a one night stand in a similar setting five years ago or did he just pick her up in a bar one night? 

Wow 4getunot!  great work on the mobile home residents.
Yeah, I've always had a huge question about why MM seemed so calm about taking aa child into the hotel. Not a care in the world it seemed. Disgusting. Could explain the mother's new desire to "be a mom", if she was needing a little girl as a debit card for her drugs.  All those family names are interesting, some of them not particularly common. I'm going to be even madder if Brad was familiar with the goings on at the park and still he let her be  dropped off there AND let her stay there without a fight. I could go on but I won't.   
Logged
Wyks
Monkey All Star
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 10268



« Reply #1674 on: December 07, 2009, 08:59:08 PM »


SBI to probe possible DSS cover-up in girl's death

Posted: Today at 10:07 a.m.

Fayetteville, N.C. — Cumberland County District Attorney Ed Grannis and Fayetteville Police Chief Tom Bergamine have asked the State Bureau of Investigation to look into whether social workers have turned over all of their records in the death of 5-year-old Shaniya Nicole Davis.

<snipped>

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/6564577/

     

Logged

~ 'Things are not always what they seem' ~
cookie
Monkey Mega Star
******
Offline Offline

Posts: 15663



« Reply #1675 on: December 07, 2009, 09:10:09 PM »

I would think that if Shaniya was being tricked out by the bio before the weekend that she was murdered, that there would  be signs of sexual abuse on her little body that Carrey or someone would notice when helping her with her bath...or otherwise...wouldn't Shaniya have told Carrey about what was going on?
I am thinking that when Shaniya went to "live" with the bio, that is when the abuse started...then Shaniya wouldn't be telling Carrey anything and Carrey wouldn't know? jmo...
Logged

Wyks
Monkey All Star
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 10268



« Reply #1676 on: December 07, 2009, 09:20:40 PM »

Have just added the Who's Who thread for Shaniya.  This info has been pulled from many different sources, by many monkeys and others.  Thank you all for your help! 

If anyone has info that is not included, plz add/update in there as needed.  Plz bring any discussion over here, not in that thread.  Thanks! 


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6639.new#new





Thanks Wyks.   

You're welcome, Muffy!   
Logged

~ 'Things are not always what they seem' ~
4getUnot
Monkey Junky Jr.
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 651



« Reply #1677 on: December 07, 2009, 09:55:17 PM »


SBI to probe possible DSS cover-up in girl's death

Posted: Today at 10:07 a.m.

Fayetteville, N.C. — Cumberland County District Attorney Ed Grannis and Fayetteville Police Chief Tom Bergamine have asked the State Bureau of Investigation to look into whether social workers have turned over all of their records in the death of 5-year-old Shaniya Nicole Davis.

<snipped>

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/6564577/

     







Thanks for this great catch!!!  Wonder what info DSS is holding back?

snipped from the article-
 "Chief Bergamine has requested the SBI's assistance to determine if Fayetteville police have received complete and accurate records from Cumberland County DSS regarding this case," Grannis wrote. "Based upon the information provided to me and my senior staff by the Fayetteville Police Department concerning these issues, I share their concern, and I have requested the assistance of the SBI to assist us in this regard."

Now that really makes it sound like the police have information that disputes DSS. (perhaps the autopsy report??)
Logged
Wyks
Monkey All Star
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 10268



« Reply #1678 on: December 07, 2009, 09:58:10 PM »

trimmonthelake:  I've been reading Bill Kirby's articles and the comments as well.  In another article they were discussing who's to blame and a lot of posters were making some negative comments about the MHP and then the manager of the MHP made some interesting comments in defense of the MHP.

Barbara Davenport Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 10:09 am
C. Pons,
Then stop making statements you have no factual knowledge of.
You stated “Sleepy Hollow is in an area known as “Fayette-Nam” and rife with prostitution
/ drugs / violence”.

I think my priorities are just fine, thank you very much. Would you like it if everyone
started spouting gossip and false statements about you or something you’ve worked hard
for? My primary focus has been on the people who failed that child and this neighborhood
had nothing to do with what happened to her.

http://blogs.fayobserver.com/kirby/2009/11/20/102/

She made some other comments too and IMO she went maybe a little over the top about what a nice place it was to live.


Interesting!  I've read rumors all over the net about the negatives of that mobile home park, mostly from those posting as locals, who IMO, ought to know.  Had those rumors been posted in say only one or two places, I might think they were just that, negative rumors.  Yet it does seem that it's a general consensus of those locals who are on the net anyway.  If that mhp and area is actually a nice place to live, I'd think there would be more than just one person posting the positives and feeling the need to be defensive. 

On the other hand, it could very well be that the area already has had a bad reputation and this mhp manager had been trying very hard to do her part in cleaning up that area.  In that case, I can understand why she might be trying extra hard to convince the world that it's a great area.  I dunno, just trying to give her the benefit of the doubt. 

Actually, what this reminds me a lot of, is Elizabeth Olten's case, and how the school spokesperson came out immediately defending the school etc.  'Didn't happen here, this is a great place, etc etc.'  Yet the locals there were on the net with rumors about what an awful place the school is, blah blah..

It's just interesting to me when someone seems to be going overboard in being defensive.  While it may be true that the murder/s didn't happen in these places perse, the victim/s spent time there while alive.  Seems they just do not want the negative publicity to ruin whatever good impressions about these places they may be trying for. 

Why does it seem that when something negative happens, so many folks concentrate on 'cover your azz', rather than on 'justice for the victim'?? 

Edit to add "park", per Wyks.  MB
« Last Edit: December 08, 2009, 09:54:15 PM by MuffyBee » Logged

~ 'Things are not always what they seem' ~
Wyks
Monkey All Star
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 10268



« Reply #1679 on: December 07, 2009, 10:01:34 PM »

The first line in my post just above *ought to* include the word park:

"I've read rumors all over the net about the negatives of that mobile home park"..... not just about the mobile home itself.  lol

Fixed it.  MB

« Last Edit: December 08, 2009, 09:55:37 PM by MuffyBee » Logged

~ 'Things are not always what they seem' ~
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 »   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Use of this web site in any manner signifies unconditional acceptance, without exception, of our terms of use.
Powered by SMF 1.1.13 | SMF © 2006-2011, Simple Machines LLC
 
Page created in 0.397 seconds with 20 queries.