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« Reply #1680 on: December 07, 2009, 10:19:11 PM »

Wyks...thanks for the who is who thread for Shaniya...
the one that you and others did for Haleigh Cummings/family was so handy...
great work .....to all...xxxx
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« Reply #1681 on: December 07, 2009, 10:21:56 PM »



"The case against Antoinette Davis is strong.  Allegedly, Antoinette Davis allowed Mario McNeil to take Shaniya Davis, her biological daughter, in exchange for money due and sexual transfer.  Shaniya Davis' autopsy proved that 5-year-old Shaniya Davis had been raped and murdered on the day she was reported missing."

http://www.examiner.com/x-17800-Raleigh-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m12d4-Anointette-Davis-Dec-3-2009-Update--Davis-returned-to-court-no-trial-date-set-at-this-time




Makes me wonder if this is the first and only time Antoinette did this...  and was Mcneil accustomed to accepting sex with children as payment for debts?  Antoinette's uncle said she had been living in apartments and motels (??) before winding up at the mobile home park.  I'd really like to know what kind of motels or hotels and if she was opearting her "business" out of them.  It keeps going through my head that the video of McNeil was him going into the hotel with Shaniya at 6:11am.  Going into the hotel????  Most folks are checking out in the morning not checking in.  In the pics from the video McNeil sure didn't look as if he was the least bit afraid of arousing any suspicion.  Wouldn't that arouse suspicion?  If not, why not?  Was that room rented for a long period of time (days, weeks, months???)  and by whom?  Did Brad and Antoinette share a one night stand in a similar setting five years ago or did he just pick her up in a bar one night? 

Wow 4getunot!  great work on the mobile home residents.
Yeah, I've always had a huge question about why MM seemed so calm about taking aa child into the hotel. Not a care in the world it seemed. Disgusting. Could explain the mother's new desire to "be a mom", if she was needing a little girl as a debit card for her drugs.  All those family names are interesting, some of them not particularly common. I'm going to be even madder if Brad was familiar with the goings on at the park and still he let her be  dropped off there AND let her stay there without a fight. I could go on but I won't.   

Thank you Mizjay!  That picture of the monster carrying Shaniya away will haunt me forever.  Maybe we've seen, not just a monster, but glimpsed the under belly of a huge beast!!!

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« Reply #1682 on: December 07, 2009, 10:28:27 PM »

I made a list of everyone in the mobile home park from the info given in white pages.  I can give you the whole list if you want it.  I went through the list looking to see if there might be anyone we already have info on.  I did find some people with last names that might be of interest but don't know at this point if there may be a connection or just coincidence. I'm not assuming or implying anything just noting the coincidence of the names.

Remember Andrea Moore, the neighbor where the blanket was found in the garbage can?  I didn't find her name listed as a resident, but found two other Moore's listed as residents, one is the owner of the mobile home park.  Am wondering if Andrea is related to either of these in some way.

Mario McNeill's gf is April Autry.  I found an Autry living in the mobile home park. 

There is another Davis, besides Brenda and Antoinette, living in the mobile home park.

Brad's former wife was Vickie Coleman Lockhart, now deceased.  In her obituary, her grandmother was mentioned, Patsy Mack.  There are two Mack's living in the mobile home park. 

Vickie's maiden name was Coleman, her parents got custody of and raised Vickie's four children, three with Brad.  There are two Coleman's living in the mobile home park. 
 
The article about Vickie's death mentions another person who was injured in that home invasion, a Tyrone Parker.  There are three Parker's living in the mobile home park. 

Judge Tal Baggett was the judge in Antoinette's arraignment hearing.  There is a Baggett living in the mobile home park.

Ty (Tyrongella) Davis was supposedly the former fiance of Brad, they were to marry next April, now supposedly broken up.  Ty's family may include a McLaughlin.  The funeral for Shaniya was held at the McLaughlin Chapel. 

4getUnot - Thanks for your hard work on those living in the mhp!!  I imagine that took a lot of time to gather and sort thru. 

The names you've pulled out, my gosh!!!!!!!!!!!  One or two might be considered coincidental, but this many?     Not coincidental, IMO.  As MizJay said, some of these names are not particularly common.  It's gonna be interesting to watch and see if any of them connect. 

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« Reply #1683 on: December 07, 2009, 11:11:11 PM »


Thank you Mizjay!  That picture of the monster carrying Shaniya away will haunt me forever.  Maybe we've seen, not just a monster, but glimpsed the under belly of a huge beast!!!



I agree! 

Just as in Sandra Cantu's threads, there is a pic of a family member of the alleged perp, looking into the camera.  Those eyes chill me to the bone, much more so than Sandra's alleged perp has ever done.  I will forever be haunted by that as well.  Much research was done in that case, as to a connection with something much larger than one perp, one victim, one murder.  Time may tell in that case, just as with this case.  Just am hoping those doing the actual investigations are looking into all the possibilities for these cases. 

Am not on a witch hunt for human traffickers, etc.  When the facts as reported, along with info found while investigating, seem to begin pointing in that direction, that's when my hinky meter sets off.   

For those of us who have followed different cases, we can start getting 'a feel' of these different case, if that makes sense at all.  Some seem to be a definite slam-dunk as to the alleged perp.  Yet IMO, some cases just scream of something even more evil, if it's possible to place evil on some kind of scale.  Shaniya's case, Sandra's case, perhaps a few others as well.   Leaves me with the feeling of evilness that no amount of showers can wash away.  And very scared for our future as a 'civilized' society. 

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« Reply #1684 on: December 08, 2009, 12:14:49 AM »

Cookie - Thanks!  Am glad the Who's Who threads are so helpful.  When cases like this has so many folks on each side of the families etc, it can get confusing in a fast hurry! 

I agree with what you've posted about when the abuse likely began for Shaniya. 

We haven't really gotten one consistent explanation that match up, from Brad and Carey.  The details have changed from interview to interview, then they both hushed up. 

From what the story 'seems to be', Shaniya likely didn't see anyone on her dad's side of the family after mid-October.   After that is when I think the abuse began for her.  Am thinking if she could have, Shaniya very likely would have told Carey.  As others have mentioned, could have been part of why Antoinette allegedly said to Carey in that supposed phone call, that she'll never see Shaniya again. 

What I just cannot wrap my mind around is why Carey didn't immediately respond with going over there and sitting on Antoinette's doorstep with cam in hand, if nothing else.  That just sounds soooo threatening.  Custody/guardianship being as shaky as it seems, I'd still be yelling for a wellness check etc. 

Hindsight being 20/20 and all, am betting that Carey and Brad both are beating themselves up more than anyone.  I would be anyway.  They have to live with the choices they made, and/or didn't make.  The "if onlys"....... 

I also have to wonder what, if anything, Brenda knew about this.  Kind of hard to believe that she woke up that morning knowing nothing, not hearing anything.  Not with the reported and rumored amount of feces in and around that home.  With little to no info coming from Brenda, or about her, makes me wonder if perhaps she is doing a lot of talking with LE.  Maybe even cutting a deal for herself in exchange for info?  Dunno. 

Yet after all, (or despite all), it was on Antoinette's "watch" that Shaniya was abused and died.  She's the one who needs to pay the price, along with McNeill.  IMO. 

This case is so mind-boggling!   
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« Reply #1685 on: December 08, 2009, 12:30:00 AM »

Wyks  I do want to say thank you for the Who's Who thread.  Your organizational skills are superb!

I'm not on a witch hunt either but would like to point out that Cumberland County is no stranger to child sex crimes.  I checked out some of the other inmates in the jail while McNeil and Davis were incarcerated.  I have included links to the stories below.

Some of the alledged despicable characters in who are/were in Cumberland Co jail -

Timothy DesJardins
 Spring Lake man charged with child sex crimes
http://www.wral.com/news/news_briefs/story/5654729/

Bryan Scott DeJarlais
 Man faces 133 sex charges involving minors
http://www.wral.com/news/news_briefs/story/4632422/

Todd Lanford and Tonia Powers
 Mother, boyfriend charged in child maiming
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=6509784

Barney Keester Pauze
 Man, 62, engaged in child prostitution, police say
 On The WebNC Wanted: Read more crime news or report a tip
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Man charged with seeking sex from minors
http://www.wral.com/news/news_briefs/story/3427875/
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« Reply #1686 on: December 08, 2009, 01:06:13 AM »

O/T 

Here in Nebraska, we are hunkered down for more snow.  We've gotten several inches already, expecting another foot or so overnight.  School's are closed, appts cancelled.  It's 16 degrees out, feels like 9.  My doxie, whose chest is an inch off the ground, is none to thrilled at wading in snow higher than his head just to go potty.  Poor baby.  Gotta get him some stilts.  lol

Hoping the weather is better for the rest of ya! 
 
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« Reply #1687 on: December 08, 2009, 01:09:03 AM »

<snipped> from Penny for your thoughts
o/t but these are the types of people into kid porn
http://www.telegram.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091205/NEWS/912050358
he got to stay home with his mommy and daddy so he could go to therapy.... chit bag

Penny  This seems to be a disturbing trend almost as if it's OK to look as long as your not doing it yourself.  IMO Looking at the disturbing images of a crime being perpetrated on an innocent child and taking some sort of sick and twisted delight in it is as bad as doing it.  Not to mention that it is the sickos like this who support and don't report the child exploitation industry.  They actually pay for these videos!!! I beleive they are no less guilty than the ones doing it for heaven's sake!!!!
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« Reply #1688 on: December 08, 2009, 01:12:17 AM »

O/T 

Here in Nebraska, we are hunkered down for more snow.  We've gotten several inches already, expecting another foot or so overnight.  School's are closed, appts cancelled.  It's 16 degrees out, feels like 9.  My doxie, whose chest is an inch off the ground, is none to thrilled at wading in snow higher than his head just to go potty.  Poor baby.  Gotta get him some stilts.  lol

Hoping the weather is better for the rest of ya! 
 

Sorry for another O/T but pictured that doxie on stilts, hilarious!!!!!   
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« Reply #1689 on: December 08, 2009, 01:21:49 AM »


SBI to probe possible DSS cover-up in girl's death

Posted: Today at 10:07 a.m.

Fayetteville, N.C. Cumberland County District Attorney Ed Grannis and Fayetteville Police Chief Tom Bergamine have asked the State Bureau of Investigation to look into whether social workers have turned over all of their records in the death of 5-year-old Shaniya Nicole Davis.

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http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/6564577/

     


Thanks for this great catch!!!  Wonder what info DSS is holding back?

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 "Chief Bergamine has requested the SBI's assistance to determine if Fayetteville police have received complete and accurate records from Cumberland County DSS regarding this case," Grannis wrote. "Based upon the information provided to me and my senior staff by the Fayetteville Police Department concerning these issues, I share their concern, and I have requested the assistance of the SBI to assist us in this regard."

Now that really makes it sound like the police have information that disputes DSS. (perhaps the autopsy report??)


4getUnot - You're welcome!  I'm surprised that the media reported it!  lol  Seems so much is hush-hush in these cases lately.  Am grateful for any crumbs tossed by the media. 

Seems the statement in the article above was very carefully worded by the Chief.  It does sound like LE has info that disputes what they have gotten from DSS.  That, or maybe DSS made things sound so rosy, but it flies in the face of the fact that Shaniya is dead.  Could be as you mention, the autopsy report.  Maybe something said to LE by the 7 yr old boy, might not be the same as what DSS reported.  Who knows, but it sure must be something.  Wonder if we'll ever hear the results of the further help by the SBI?  That info being confidential and all. 
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« Reply #1690 on: December 08, 2009, 01:23:54 AM »

O/T 

Here in Nebraska, we are hunkered down for more snow.  We've gotten several inches already, expecting another foot or so overnight.  School's are closed, appts cancelled.  It's 16 degrees out, feels like 9.  My doxie, whose chest is an inch off the ground, is none to thrilled at wading in snow higher than his head just to go potty.  Poor baby.  Gotta get him some stilts.  lol

Hoping the weather is better for the rest of ya! 
 

Sorry for another O/T but pictured that doxie on stilts, hilarious!!!!!   

       

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« Reply #1691 on: December 08, 2009, 01:32:36 AM »

Wyks - Hopefully the reporter is going to be very aggressive and not let this rest.  I would think if there has been some major wrong done in the case of DSS that there would be an arrest or someone may lose their job.  It could be that folks are getting tired of hearing the same old lame excuses about how understaffed DSS is.  Fine line between understaffed and total disregard.  Know what I mean???  None the less I'll be waiting to hear more about this.
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« Reply #1692 on: December 08, 2009, 01:35:56 AM »

Wyks  I do want to say thank you for the Who's Who thread.  Your organizational skills are superb!

I'm not on a witch hunt either but would like to point out that Cumberland County is no stranger to child sex crimes.  I checked out some of the other inmates in the jail while McNeil and Davis were incarcerated.  I have included links to the stories below.

Some of the alledged despicable characters in who are/were in Cumberland Co jail -

Timothy DesJardins
 Spring Lake man charged with child sex crimes
http://www.wral.com/news/news_briefs/story/5654729/

Bryan Scott DeJarlais
 Man faces 133 sex charges involving minors
http://www.wral.com/news/news_briefs/story/4632422/

Todd Lanford and Tonia Powers
 Mother, boyfriend charged in child maiming
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=6509784

Barney Keester Pauze
 Man, 62, engaged in child prostitution, police say
 On The WebNC Wanted: Read more crime news or report a tip
 Site Search 
Man charged with seeking sex from minors
http://www.wral.com/news/news_briefs/story/3427875/

You're welcome!  Couldn't have done that without the help from a whole team of monkeys!  Including you and TracyGirl.   

And what you've found above.........    

Seems there has been a war declared on children .. in our own country.  Deal with THAT, O'Bama!   

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« Reply #1693 on: December 08, 2009, 01:39:48 AM »

Wyks - I know you're probably ready to take a break from the Who's Who but I found another link for the triple murder of Brad's first wife.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/124131/

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« Reply #1694 on: December 08, 2009, 01:44:23 AM »

Wyks - Hopefully the reporter is going to be very aggressive and not let this rest.  I would think if there has been some major wrong done in the case of DSS that there would be an arrest or someone may lose their job.  It could be that folks are getting tired of hearing the same old lame excuses about how understaffed DSS is.  Fine line between understaffed and total disregard.  Know what I mean???  None the less I'll be waiting to hear more about this.

I totally agree!  The newest excuse I've heard is from Florida.  Found out that FL (as well as other states) outsource their casework for children.   What is most precious to us is being outsourced!!!!!!!   Who even supervises and oversees the credentials etc, of those who end up actually working with the children?   Think of how much easier it will be for them to pass the buck (and the blame) now!   Dunno if it's this way in NC tho.   


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« Reply #1695 on: December 08, 2009, 01:49:04 AM »

I don't know either about NC but it is personal info that they are outsourcing which should be a major concern to all.

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« Reply #1696 on: December 08, 2009, 07:52:41 AM »

4getUnot  thanks for all the info! great stuff!

Wyks..... I agree 100% with your post farther up..didn't quote to avoid stacking....

also, in Illinois we are expecting a huge storm coming our way with lots of snow too! My dog is dragging in the snow as well...he is really low to the ground...he has to kindof hop to get to where he is going...funny to watch...
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« Reply #1697 on: December 08, 2009, 01:11:56 PM »


Thank you Mizjay!  That picture of the monster carrying Shaniya away will haunt me forever.  Maybe we've seen, not just a monster, but glimpsed the under belly of a huge beast!!!



I agree! 

Just as in Sandra Cantu's threads, there is a pic of a family member of the alleged perp, looking into the camera.  Those eyes chill me to the bone, much more so than Sandra's alleged perp has ever done.  I will forever be haunted by that as well.  Much research was done in that case, as to a connection with something much larger than one perp, one victim, one murder.  Time may tell in that case, just as with this case.  Just am hoping those doing the actual investigations are looking into all the possibilities for these cases. 

Am not on a witch hunt for human traffickers, etc.  When the facts as reported, along with info found while investigating, seem to begin pointing in that direction, that's when my hinky meter sets off.   

For those of us who have followed different cases, we can start getting 'a feel' of these different case, if that makes sense at all.  Some seem to be a definite slam-dunk as to the alleged perp.  Yet IMO, some cases just scream of something even more evil, if it's possible to place evil on some kind of scale.  Shaniya's case, Sandra's case, perhaps a few others as well.   Leaves me with the feeling of evilness that no amount of showers can wash away.  And very scared for our future as a 'civilized' society. 

IMO.
     
  WYKS~  thanks also for the who's who.
Your comment about our future as a civilized society is IMO so true and a little scary. It sure seems like the most innocent of our kind, children, are being used, abused and discarded more and more frequently. Instead of outrage and fear of what "we're" becoming, the whole thing is treated like just another terrible crime, which it is but seems like there should be more efforts by us ( LE/judicial/media/educators/everybody) to stop this. Hope one day, history doesn't show that the unraveling of the society was hastened by the lax attitude about pedophile porn , child rape, child neglect, etc. 
The system that we have for child protection is seriously in trouble. There's not enough CPS agents to handle the load, it's not a high enough priority to pay for more. The courts have been cowed by lawyers who make money by challenging common sense, case after case of kids at risk being court ordered to be placed back in the custody of irresponsible parents. Case after case of lawyers fighting on behalf of perverts, returning them to neighborhoods to hurt again.
Everything's backwards, the criminals are the focus. It's all about them. Helping them, rehabilitating them, protecting their rights and only small attention paid to their victims.
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« Reply #1698 on: December 08, 2009, 11:07:01 PM »

Wyks - I know you're probably ready to take a break from the Who's Who but I found another link for the triple murder of Brad's first wife.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/124131/



Thanks!  Interesting that a third person arrested in that case was a soldier at Ft. Bragg at the time.  Bet that didn't make the Army too happy. 
 
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« Reply #1699 on: December 08, 2009, 11:10:59 PM »

4getUnot  thanks for all the info! great stuff!

Wyks..... I agree 100% with your post farther up..didn't quote to avoid stacking....

also, in Illinois we are expecting a huge storm coming our way with lots of snow too! My dog is dragging in the snow as well...he is really low to the ground...he has to kindof hop to get to where he is going...funny to watch...

Ugh!  Seems like it's snowing in many places then!  We are in the middle of blizzard now, and snowed in.  Nothing moving out there but the poor snowplows, doing their best to show where the roads might be.  Funny sounding with your dog too.  Not funny for the poor doggies tho.  lol  Mine has lil snow boots, hates em, but still lays down and sticks all four feet up for me to put them on.  Then walking in them, he looks like a drunken ballerina.   

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