Lively Case Discussion #562 12/18 - 12/20/2006

[Lala'sMom]

They are so protective of Satish, thinking he doesn't know how to lie as well as they do. That's reason enough for us all to pray for deposition!

I have often wondered if that protection is due to some other reason/

[LilPuma]

They are so protective of Satish, thinking he doesn't know how to lie as well as they do. That's reason enough for us all to pray for deposition!

Yes, why ARE they so protective of Satish? Is that the real reason?

I wonder if Deepak has realized that he's screwed himself into a corner and backs out of the lawsuit with Dr. Phil like the coward that he is...

Who said that sometime Monday, Satish asked Deepak how the girl was?  Was this Satish?  Here we have another indication that something went wrong, the Kalpoes and Joran knew it, and from these statements, it looks like ALE knew it too.

[Carnut]

They are so protective of Satish, thinking he doesn't know how to lie as well as they do. That's reason enough for us all to pray for deposition!

Yes, why ARE they so protective of Satish? Is that the real reason?

I wonder if Deepak has realized that he's screwed himself into a corner and backs out of the lawsuit with Dr. Phil like the coward that he is...

Who said that sometime Monday, Satish asked Deepak how the girl was?  Was this Satish?  Here we have another indication that something went wrong, the Kalpoes and Joran knew it, and from these statements, it looks like ALE knew it too.

Yep.

[klaasend]

Klaas, do you know what this means tonight?  

  Hit the road jack and don't  you come back no more no more no more no more
Hit the road jack and don't you come back no more.  What you say?

Does it mean you want me to leave?  

NOoooooooooooo.  I know you were watching the Lakers the other night.  Tonight they played the Bulls and Kobe fouled out.  

Ah...not watching tonight.  I've been busy wrapping presents  

[Anna]

Anyone think this may well be the reason we haven't seen Deepak's computer records??  

And Nadira said they got home after three wasn't it?  Her interview she wanted to take back where she totally blows their alibi?

She says 3 am or 4 am is when they got home.  So DID Deepak go back out after he logged on with JCCroes?  

This is sure adding up to the possibility that maybe he did just as Joran claimed which I personally just do not believe.  But Deepak is not looking too good right about now and has added the spotlight of this lawsuit.

I don't like the way things are going in this much at all.  No wonder Joey T was so hap hap happy last time we saw him.  

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[Cat]

i have finished my nap,now for a puzzule,hmmmm.I spoke with someone who had worked with gerald and said he was very competent.I think I remember Beth saying when they confronted jvds the first time,he poubded on his chest and said,"what do you want me to do about it."Hm a postive statement.New concrete,misdirection,lies,clothing washing up,hmm,not much to solve,only problem is how to get Justice.....Oh cbb,are you a trekkie ,too.i know I write in disjointed riddles and odd out in left field style ,but their is madness in my thoughts.I am mad at the creatures,who hurt our community,took away a smart doctor and a funny human being.What has any of the k's or vds ever done,in a postie way.I will watch and wait.Hmmm .atticus Cat

[bleachedblack]

They are so protective of Satish, thinking he doesn't know how to lie as well as they do. That's reason enough for us all to pray for deposition!

Yes, why ARE they so protective of Satish? Is that the real reason?

I wonder if Deepak has realized that he's screwed himself into a corner and backs out of the lawsuit with Dr. Phil like the coward that he is...

Who said that sometime Monday, Satish asked Deepak how the girl was?  Was this Satish?  Here we have another indication that something went wrong, the Kalpoes and Joran knew it, and from these statements, it looks like ALE knew it too.

Satish asked that in one of his statements...maybe june 13th ?

[the big hammer]

Deepak Time Lapse?

carnut writes:I take as the Jun 29 statement says the jist of the conversation with Croes in Fla was a story about how the girl had put her hands in his pants before he had dropped JVDS and Nat off, so as to mislead the investigation that he knew was coming and wanted to keep the heat off of Satish.

Shizaru claims at best "ambiguous".  Citing remainder of 6/29 PV indicating that deepak refers to "Monday" chat which is evidently unavailable to ALE -- AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

HHhhhmm.  WHile possible, I think otherwise.  There is something here.

Especially in the 6/13 PV when deepak says that "he knows" JCC is still "online" while deepak watches TV.

How does deepak know this?  And why?

Why is JCC "STILL ON LINE" ??

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[mishy]

They are so protective of Satish, thinking he doesn't know how to lie as well as they do. That's reason enough for us all to pray for deposition!

I haven't figured out if Satish is being protected or kept in the shadows because (1) Nadira would pick him up and drop him on his head if Deepak got his little brother in trouble; (2) Satish didn't really play a part in what happened; or (3) he's not very bright and they really are afraid he'll say something wrong.

How long has he been in 12th grade again?        

[klaasend]

Deepak Time Lapse?

carnut writes:I take as the Jun 29 statement says the jist of the conversation with Croes in Fla was a story about how the girl had put her hands in his pants before he had dropped JVDS and Nat off, so as to mislead the investigation that he knew was coming and wanted to keep the heat off of Satish.

Shizaru claims at best "ambiguous".  Citing remainder of 6/29 PV indicating that deepak refers to "Monday" chat which is evidently unavailable to ALE -- AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

HHhhhmm.  WHile possible, I think otherwise.  There is something here.

Especially in the 6/13 PV when deepak says that "he knows" JCC is still "online" while deepak watches TV.

How does deepak know this?  And why?

Why is JCC "STILL ON LINE" ??

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Is JCC recieving a file perhaps?

[bleachedblack]

They are so protective of Satish, thinking he doesn't know how to lie as well as they do. That's reason enough for us all to pray for deposition!

Yes, why ARE they so protective of Satish? Is that the real reason?

I wonder if Deepak has realized that he's screwed himself into a corner and backs out of the lawsuit with Dr. Phil like the coward that he is...

Who said that sometime Monday, Satish asked Deepak how the girl was?  Was this Satish?  Here we have another indication that something went wrong, the Kalpoes and Joran knew it, and from these statements, it looks like ALE knew it too.

Yes, June 13th statement
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

My mother was then going to wake me up at 10.30 a.m. She though overslept and did not wake me up. I woke up around 12.00 noon. My brother woke up around 1 p.m. I asked him how Joran did get home during the night. He told me Joran had called him while walking in the direction to his home. He told me Joran told him he walked bare feet because he left the shoes at the beach. Then I asked my brother how the girl was doing.

[robots]

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Either a bunch of someones are incredibly stupid or a bunch of someones are well paidoff.

At this point, I don't think I will rule out it being both.  

Hope DeVries has this information and can ask somebody about it and pin down a date.  But he couldn't be any clearer, Sunday into Monday, etc.


Hey, Deepak, go sue somebody so you can be questioned in discovery, etc.  Keep trying, buddy, you're going to get this entire thing blamed on yourself yet!  

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is he the future DOCTOR  

[mishy]

Anyone think this may well be the reason we haven't seen Deepak's computer records??  

And Nadira said they got home after three wasn't it?  Her interview she wanted to take back where she totally blows their alibi?

She says 3 am or 4 am is when they got home.  So DID Deepak go back out after he logged on with JCCroes?  

This is sure adding up to the possibility that maybe he did just as Joran claimed which I personally just do not believe.  But Deepak is not looking too good right about now and has added the spotlight of this lawsuit.

I don't like the way things are going in this much at all.  No wonder Joey T was so hap hap happy last time we saw him.  

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Odd how ALE didn't jump on the fact that Nadira blew their alibi. If anyone did ask her, she probably told them that she was on the spot and just said the wrong time accidentally. Big people lie...    

I'm sure Joey is in hog heaven right now. Personally, I hope the tables turn on him immediately!! I wanna watch him foam at the mouth again    

[LilPuma]

Deepak Time Lapse?

carnut writes:I take as the Jun 29 statement says the jist of the conversation with Croes in Fla was a story about how the girl had put her hands in his pants before he had dropped JVDS and Nat off, so as to mislead the investigation that he knew was coming and wanted to keep the heat off of Satish.

Shizaru claims at best "ambiguous".  Citing remainder of 6/29 PV indicating that deepak refers to "Monday" chat which is evidently unavailable to ALE -- AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

HHhhhmm.  WHile possible, I think otherwise.  There is something here.

Especially in the 6/13 PV when deepak says that "he knows" JCC is still "online" while deepak watches TV.

How does deepak know this?  And why?

Why is JCC "STILL ON LINE" ??

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Two possibilities:  They were in chat with several people and when Deepak (or whoever) went back to the computer each time, JCC was there.  OR JCC said I've got to finish up on something online, then I'll come back and chat.  So no one was chatting, but they were both in the chat room.

[Leslie]

Has it ever been discussed if John Charles Croes, in Florida, is related to Charles Croes?  Charles Croes lived in the Miami area when he was a boy.

[bleachedblack]

They are so protective of Satish, thinking he doesn't know how to lie as well as they do. That's reason enough for us all to pray for deposition!

I haven't figured out if Satish is being protected or kept in the shadows because (1) Nadira would pick him up and drop him on his head if Deepak got his little brother in trouble; (2) Satish didn't really play a part in what happened; or (3) he's not very bright and they really are afraid he'll say something wrong.

How long has he been in 12th grade again?        

....or #4 he was involved in some legal trouble that nescitated him leaving Suriname, and any legal trouble in Aruba would get him sent back?

I remember in a Deepak statement , DK says Paulus asks him if he and his brother have lawyers, and Deepaks response was something like ,"not here" or "not in Aruba".

[the big hammer]

JCC: Online Porn Subscriber?

Klaas writes: "Is JCC recieving a file perhaps?"

Reading my mind, klaas?

Anyone have the military clock time bracket for the 8 and 1/2 minute phone call?  Does it correspond to deepak's "TV watching" -- while JCC sits in a room all by himself in FLA waiting for an Aruban to "chat with" -- ?

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[robots]

i want to know WHO CONFESSED

 

[bleachedblack]

Anyone ever found a Myspace or tickle on this charles croes?...just curious

[Anna]

No, it is Satish who is the future doctor, along with Dompig.

I have always felt that this was yet another of their little jokes, all claiming to be going to become doctors as a way of poking fun at Natalee's plans since she was nothing but a crackhead slut according to them.  I don't think they really believed she had the scholarship and everything all lined up.

So they are saying is she could be a doctor, they could be one as well, ha hahahah, they think that is funny.