Lively Case Discussion #562 12/18 - 12/20/2006

[klaasend]

Beth had a meeting with KJ and there are notes from her July 11th meeting. There were text messages. There was a message at 3:30 am. Greta asked what was the content of the text message and Joran sent a text message to his computer saying thanks I’m home. So we don’t really know how he got home except there was a message from Joran to Deepak saying he got home. KJ told Beth that there was a phone call between Joran and Deepak and she said that was the longest phone call ever recorded from those two boys cell phones and they were never able to find out what time that phone call took place or any of their conversations were disclosed and they knew it was significant because this has never taken place before and she doesn’t know what 18 year old, 17 year old or 22 year old boy are going to have and 18 (actually 8 1/2 minute) minute cell phone call on the very night they took Natalee.

She feels as if when she goes through her journal she sees all the alibis that were destroyed by looking at her looking through it.

http://tinyurl.com/feu4q

[Carnut]

And then the trip Paulus made to Florida in the very early days was to get whatever they transmitted back or make arrangements for it to be destroyed??

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Ahh you all were going along so well, then you have to go and try to complicate things.

[Carnut]

Yes, June 13th statement
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My mother was then going to wake me up at 10.30 a.m. She though overslept and did not wake me up. I woke up around 12.00 noon. My brother woke up around 1 p.m. I asked him how Joran did get home during the night. He told me Joran had called him while walking in the direction to his home. He told me Joran told him he walked bare feet because he left the shoes at the beach. Then I asked my brother how the girl was doing.

Whoa!  Wasn't he supposed to go to school?  Why would she plan to wake him at 10:30?  Did she wake up and talk to these guys that morning when they got home?

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yep

And one wonders why Satish had to repeat the school year again.

Sounds to me like Satish is being honest.  Maybe he didn't know.  As for school, I thought he got arrested before he finished the year.  Unlike Joran, who was allowed to finish the school year before the arrest took place and was also released in September so he could start school.  So he lost out on the summer and all the tourists he had condoms for.  But he got to play soccer in jail, didn't he?  And Daddy Slooty made sure his education and future plans weren't interferred with.  Satish didn't get the same consideration.

I'm still pretty sure that JVDS isn't going to a real college.

Don't know what he's doing, just have my doubts there's any official continuing education going on.

[the big hammer]

8 and 1/2 Minutes...

Beth said (paraphrasing) when she talked to Jannsen, there had never been another call longer than this recorded.  It is the longest recorded between the two: jvds and Deepak.

The jvds cell record produced by ALE, and reproduced here on SM, does not include any detail regarding this transmission.

So, while deepak, as stated in 6/13 PV, wanders around kalpoe home at 3:00am (+/-) on 5/30/05, watching TV...John Charles Croes is in Florida in the middle of the nite waiting for an Aruban to ...

... do what?

Chat some more?  But deepak says JCC is STILL ON LINE...

...Why?

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[Lala'sMom]

Carnut
Your Christmas avatar is so adorable...I can't believe I just said that...I guess you are now officially on my "nice" list and maybe you will make to it my "really, really, nice" list.

And not trying to butter anything, but I really like your's even better.

Gee, thanks. Maybe you are a sweet little guy in disguise.  

[Carnut]

Carnut
Your Christmas avatar is so adorable...I can't believe I just said that...I guess you are now officially on my "nice" list and maybe you will make to it my "really, really, nice" list.

And not trying to butter anything, but I really like your's even better.

Gee, thanks. Maybe you are a sweet little guy in disguise.  

Yup, just a disagreeable sweet little guy, that's me.

[klaasend]

8 and 1/2 Minutes...

Beth said (paraphrasing) when she talked to Jannsen, there had never been another call longer than this recorded.  It is the longest recorded between the two: jvds and Deepak.

The jvds cell record produced by ALE, and reproduced here on SM, does not include any detail regarding this transmission.

So, while deepak, as stated in 6/13 PV, wanders around kalpoe home at 3:00am (+/-) on 5/30/05, watching TV...John Charles Croes is in Florida in the middle of the nite waiting for an Aruban to ...

... do what?

Chat some more?  But deepak says JCC is STILL ON LINE...

...Why?

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Because he knows the file hasn't completed transferring yet?

Need to take a shower in a few minutes, will think about this some more then.

[bleachedblack]

8 and 1/2 Minutes...

Beth said (paraphrasing) when she talked to Jannsen, there had never been another call longer than this recorded.  It is the longest recorded between the two: jvds and Deepak.

The jvds cell record produced by ALE, and reproduced here on SM, does not include any detail regarding this transmission.

So, while deepak, as stated in 6/13 PV, wanders around kalpoe home at 3:00am (+/-) on 5/30/05, watching TV...John Charles Croes is in Florida in the middle of the nite waiting for an Aruban to ...

... do what?

Waiting for the transmission of the aruban version of "Bang Bus" of which Joran is reportedly such a fan?
Chat some more?  But deepak says JCC is STILL ON LINE...

...Why?

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[bleachedblack]

8 and 1/2 Minutes...

Beth said (paraphrasing) when she talked to Jannsen, there had never been another call longer than this recorded.  It is the longest recorded between the two: jvds and Deepak.

The jvds cell record produced by ALE, and reproduced here on SM, does not include any detail regarding this transmission.

So, while deepak, as stated in 6/13 PV, wanders around kalpoe home at 3:00am (+/-) on 5/30/05, watching TV...John Charles Croes is in Florida in the middle of the nite waiting for an Aruban to ...

... do what?


Chat some more?  But deepak says JCC is STILL ON LINE...

...Why?

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Waiting for the transmission of the aruban version of "Bang Bus" of which Joran is reportedly such a fan?

[bleachedblack]

Carnut
Your Christmas avatar is so adorable...I can't believe I just said that...I guess you are now officially on my "nice" list and maybe you will make to it my "really, really, nice" list.

And not trying to butter anything, but I really like your's even better.

Gee, thanks. Maybe you are a sweet little guy in disguise.  

Yup, just a disagreeable sweet little guy, that's me.

Carnut is your Santa avatar drinking and driving?  

[LilPuma]

JCC: Online Porn Subscriber?

Klaas writes: "Is JCC recieving a file perhaps?"

Reading my mind, klaas?

Anyone have the military clock time bracket for the 8 and 1/2 minute phone call?  Does it correspond to deepak's "TV watching" -- while JCC sits in a room all by himself in FLA waiting for an Aruban to "chat with" -- ?

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OMG...bingo..that's it!  I don't have that time handy but that's it!

So Deepak may have been sending the video of the "partee" to JCC.  Or to Bangbus?  If Deepak did this, that would mean he didn't know that Natalee disappeared, right?  

The 8-1/2 minute phone call could have been Joran filling Deepak in on what happened and what they were doing and what they should say.

[mishy]

Keeping the chat line open but not chatting....Hmmmm....a-l-i-b-i...

Pondering this the other night, I thought that maybe "Deepak" went into chat but didn't chat because it was Satish and he didn't want to give away who he was.

Very early on I was thinking it was actually Satish chatting and not Deepak...

[Carnut]

8 and 1/2 Minutes...

Beth said (paraphrasing) when she talked to Jannsen, there had never been another call longer than this recorded.  It is the longest recorded between the two: jvds and Deepak.

The jvds cell record produced by ALE, and reproduced here on SM, does not include any detail regarding this transmission.

So, while deepak, as stated in 6/13 PV, wanders around kalpoe home at 3:00am (+/-) on 5/30/05, watching TV...John Charles Croes is in Florida in the middle of the nite waiting for an Aruban to ...

... do what?

Chat some more?  But deepak says JCC is STILL ON LINE...

...Why?

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Nope, no way, any movie transferred, never believe that one until someone shows me the movie.

[Anna]

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Carnut is your Santa avatar drinking and driving?  

Could be snorting something out of the mitten.


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[bleachedblack]

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Carnut is your Santa avatar drinking and driving?  

Could be snorting something out of the mitten.


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[Carnut]

Carnut
Your Christmas avatar is so adorable...I can't believe I just said that...I guess you are now officially on my "nice" list and maybe you will make to it my "really, really, nice" list.

And not trying to butter anything, but I really like your's even better.

Gee, thanks. Maybe you are a sweet little guy in disguise.  

Yup, just a disagreeable sweet little guy, that's me.

Carnut is your Santa avatar drinking and driving?  

Better be a Diet Cherry Coke because I'm a teetotaller.

[the big hammer]

"LONGEST EVER RECORDED..."

8 and 1/2 minutes

How does jannsen know this is the "looooongest recorded"?  Ever?

How does she know this to say this?  Is this the yield of the vaunted ALE "tactical manuever"?  You know, when the boys were set free for 20 days to be "monitored".

Longest?

Longer than what?

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[Carnut]

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Carnut is your Santa avatar drinking and driving?  

Could be snorting something out of the mitten.


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Nope, I don't even like to take my prescribed meds.

Friad I'm a reality addict, don't need any mind bending.

[Anna]

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It isn't a "movie" like a Featured Event but something that can be transmitted or may in fact only be eight and a half minutes long which is plenty by backseatbangers, smutbus, etc. standards.

And I think Joran may have sent it to Deepak who in turn transmitted it to JCCroes.  At least I hope he did as that enters it into the good old U.S. of A. and our court.

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[Lala'sMom]

Wonder if the FBI has any info on that transmission?  That would be interesting to know.