Lively Case Discussion #562 12/18 - 12/20/2006

[the big hammer]

Loco Stefy w/ Freddie in Backseat

Florida writes: Is this Bailey on the left? Steph on the right?
Have those US girls been questioned?

No.

The blonde girl on the left is Bailey Anne's friend Alyse.  Bailey Anne and Alyse seemed to share a room at their hotel, the Wyndham, based on the numerous room shots provided in the webshot album. It is unknown if Alyse is a classmate of Bailey Anne's, but many did not think so.  They were friends from another circle.  Some thought Alyse might be non-American, and possibly Dutch, given her name, and otehr references in the webshot album.

The dark-haired girl on the right in the green top is "Loco Stefy".  There is a picture of her from a previous event with her hands around joran in an innocent picture.  The event looks to have been an evening party, perhaps at sloot house, but clearly in Aruba somewhere.  This is significant because it demonstrates that Loco Stefy was friends w/ at least joran BEFORE she ever met Bailey Anne and ALyse.   Many have speculated (and I agree) that Stefy played the part of "lure" and found tourist girls to befriend, and party with.  During their last nite, Stefy introduced the tourist girls to her friends: Freddy, deepak, jvds, etc...for further partying...

The taker of this picture was almost surely Bailey Anne, who was either exiting or entering the backseat of the vehicle, and leaned in to take the shot of the three you see here.  This is oneof the shots from Bailey Anne's webshot album.

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[Leslie]

You used to be able to find the entire Webshot album of Bailey Ann B.
from Pittsburgh, PA by searching for " D-pak" .  Not anymore
http://www.webshots.com/

[klaasend]

Loco Stefy w/ Freddie in Backseat

Florida writes: Is this Bailey on the left? Steph on the right?
Have those US girls been questioned?

No.

The blonde girl on the left is Bailey Anne's friend Alyse.  Bailey Anne and Alyse seemed to share a room at their hotel, the Wyndham, based on the numerous room shots provided in the webshot album. It is unknown if Alyse is a classmate of Bailey Anne's, but many did not think so.  They were friends from another circle.  Some thought Alyse might be non-American, and possibly Dutch, given her name, and otehr references in the webshot album.

The dark-haired girl on the right in the green top is "Loco Stefy".  There is a picture of her from a previous event with her hands around joran in an innocent picture.  The event looks to have been an evening party, perhaps at sloot house, but clearly in Aruba somewhere.  This is significant because it demonstrates that Loco Stefy was friends w/ at least joran BEFORE she ever met Bailey Anne and ALyse.   Many have speculated (and I agree) that Stefy played the part of "lure" and found tourist girls to befriend, and party with.  During their last nite, Stefy introduced the tourist girls to her friends: Freddy, deepak, jvds, etc...for further partying...

The taker of this picture was almost surely Bailey Anne, who was either exiting or entering the backseat of the vehicle, and leaned in to take the shot of the three you see here.  This is oneof the shots from Bailey Anne's webshot album.

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I just recreated the thread. Feel free to add to it.  The link to Bailey's webshot site is in this thread as well:

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=663

[mishy]

Klaas, did IBE say something earlier about free shipping at Cafe Press if you ordered by today? I ordered a ringer T a couple of days ago, and it didn't say anything about free shipping...In fact, I won't get mine before Christmas because the postage to get it here by that time was outrageous...Did I misunderstand IBE?

[Leslie]

Hey Klaas:  I found it too!  Bails32
http://community.webshots.com/user/bails32

[Kimmy53]

Oh CBB - thanks so much for the Christmas avatar.  I have been too shy to ask for one, and I have been so busy at work to post very much.  (((((((hugs)))))).

[2NJSons_Mom]

You used to be able to find the entire Webshot album of Bailey Ann B.
from Pittsburgh, PA by searching for " D-pak" .  Not anymore
http://www.webshots.com/

I found bails32 by searching for Aruba, Alyse.  Thanks, Leslie.  It's been a while since I last looked at any of these.

[klaasend]

Klaas, did IBE say something earlier about free shipping at Cafe Press if you ordered by today? I ordered a ringer T a couple of days ago, and it didn't say anything about free shipping...In fact, I won't get mine before Christmas because the postage to get it here by that time was outrageous...Did I misunderstand IBE?

I honestly don't remember anything about free shipping.  You'll have to check the Cafepress website.

[klaasend]

Hey Klaas:  I found it too!  Bails32
http://community.webshots.com/user/bails32

Yes but notice how she's changed her comment on that photo of them in the car.  Luckily I captured the photos from her site prior to her changes.

[2NJSons_Mom]

  I forgot to refresh before posting...looks like my finding bails32 was an echo.

[blah]

Porn Relay?

Klaas writes: The 8 1/2 minute call could have been Joran sending it to Deepak's PC or Cellphone. Deepak in turn sent it to JCC via his PC.

Right.

There's a delay factor.  Deepak's "clearing house" (enabled by CyberZone remote technology and access, so deepak may indeed be at home) moves the product out for "consumption."

Carnut: we're talking "amateur" porn here.  Not model released work.  The web is filled w/ both.  Obviously, IMO.

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what if Paulus had Joran's cell phone.  What if paulus was at home searching Google for "teenageer drugs and alcohol" and for 8.5 minutes he is relaying instructions from the internet on how to revive a girl who is overdosing on drugs.

I don't think Paulus was doing any such thing.  If he wanted to help all they had to do is call for help or take her to the hospital.  I believe Beth said in an recent interview why didn't they seek medical help if Natalee was injured.

pualus did do a starnge search on the internet that night including search words teenager, drugs and alcohol

[Sue]

Klaas, did IBE say something earlier about free shipping at Cafe Press if you ordered by today? I ordered a ringer T a couple of days ago, and it didn't say anything about free shipping...In fact, I won't get mine before Christmas because the postage to get it here by that time was outrageous...Did I misunderstand IBE?

I honestly don't remember anything about free shipping.  You'll have to check the Cafepress website.

when i was placing my order because i went over $100 it said I qualified
for free shipping but i was still charged. But OH well I got my gear thats all I cared about IM sporting SM christmas Gear

[Sue]

I want to know what is going on With cafe press I havent been able to access My store or scared monkeys store.. If I cant access my own store
then either can potential customers  

[klaasend]

Klaas, did IBE say something earlier about free shipping at Cafe Press if you ordered by today? I ordered a ringer T a couple of days ago, and it didn't say anything about free shipping...In fact, I won't get mine before Christmas because the postage to get it here by that time was outrageous...Did I misunderstand IBE?

I honestly don't remember anything about free shipping.  You'll have to check the Cafepress website.

when i was placing my order because i went over $100 it said I qualified
for free shipping but i was still charged. But OH well I got my gear thats all I cared about IM sporting SM christmas Gear

Sue - go to the website and find their phone number.  Give them a call and see if they'll credit your credit card for the shipping.  Can't hurt to ask.  They do have a toll free customer service number..I posted it a few pages back.

[2NJSons_Mom]

Hey Klaas:  I found it too!  Bails32
http://community.webshots.com/user/bails32

Yes but notice how she's changed her comment on that photo of them in the car.  Luckily I captured the photos from her site prior to her changes.

I, persoally, don't see the point in changing the comment, which went from '....got wild on the last night, but it was great' to 'oh my oh my'....

Maybe it's just my age showing..

[mishy]

Sue, it is really running slow, isn't it? I thought the site might be down earlier too...I might get that drink coaster too!

[klaasend]

I want to know what is going on With cafe press I havent been able to access My store or scared monkeys store.. If I cant access my own store
then either can potential customers  

Could be a weather related issue, I don't know.  I accessed it this morning but can't now.  I don't remember where they are physically located.

[Sue]

I want to know what is going on With cafe press I havent been able to access My store or scared monkeys store.. If I cant access my own store
then either can potential customers  

Could be a weather related issue, I don't know.  I accessed it this morning but can't now.  I don't remember where they are physically located.

I have been able to access even last night at work and i thought they were based out of cali

[Sue]

OOOOOOOOOOOPS HAVENT been able to since last night

[klaasend]

Hey Klaas:  I found it too!  Bails32
http://community.webshots.com/user/bails32

Yes but notice how she's changed her comment on that photo of them in the car.  Luckily I captured the photos from her site prior to her changes.

I, persoally, don't see the point in changing the comment, which went from '....got wild on the last night, but it was great' to 'oh my oh my'....

Maybe it's just my age showing..

THE LAST NIGHT is huge as far as connecting to JK2+F and targeting tourist girls on their last night in Aruba as they did with Natalee.