Lively Case Discussion #562 12/18 - 12/20/2006

[Florida]

 Plainview in Illinois is just outside of Chicago FWIW.  Part of urban sprawl with lots of new homes going up by developers.  I think from what you're saying we don't know for sure if there's a connection between Mr. Pink and Posner.  (Miami is a big place.)  We don't know if Shango's "plain view" is a place or someone who is in the public eye, seen around town.  BBL

Based on the ZIP CODES.....I would think Mr. Pink/Brough is connected to Michael Posner.....

PLAINVIEW FLORIDA, INC.........................Michael Posner
701 BRICKELL AVE., SUITE 1600
MIAMI FL 33131

ARUBA ALOE OF AMERICA, INC..................Louis Posner
701 BRICKELL AVENUE., Suite 1400
MIAMI FL 33131

MrPinkProductions...........................Paul Brough
PO BOX 1122
Miami, FL 33131

[Florida]

CARNUT:  YOu are reminding me of Reality, MIP6....
"Me thinks you protest too much."

[klaasend]

Carnut wrote:

The big deal is that if you really look at the situation logically that night it is quite apparent that it was virtually impossible to do a 'porn/snuf' video.

Neither the technology, the time, or the apparent actions of the 3 amigos would lead to any reasoning that such an activity transpired.

I just think this topic of discussion distracts from any reasonable discussion of the case and kinda makes the whole forum look just a bit less credible in the eyes of the world.

I know that's none of my business, but it does concern me.

We will agree to disagree then.  I will also note that you keep mentioning Snuf film when others are simply saying Porn.  

My personal believe is that these guys in Aruba (Joran, Deepak, Satish, Freddy) have filmed their sexual escapades with either willing or unwilling partners in the past and may have also filmed whatever they did to Natalee. The "something bad" could have happened afterwards.

[Carnut]

Carnut wrote:

The big deal is that if you really look at the situation logically that night it is quite apparent that it was virtually impossible to do a 'porn/snuf' video.

Neither the technology, the time, or the apparent actions of the 3 amigos would lead to any reasoning that such an activity transpired.

I just think this topic of discussion distracts from any reasonable discussion of the case and kinda makes the whole forum look just a bit less credible in the eyes of the world.

I know that's none of my business, but it does concern me.

We will agree to disagree then.  I will also note that you keep mentioning Snuf film when others are simply saying Porn.  

My personal believe is that these guys in Aruba (Joran, Deepak, Satish, Freddy) have filmed their sexual escapades with either willing or unwilling partners in the past and may have also filmed whatever they did to Natalee. The "something bad" could have happened afterwards.

More than a few folks other than me have mentioned the snuf part earlier in this thread.

And yes we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

[Altruist]

http://www.mapquest.com/directions/main.adp?go=1&do=nw&rmm=1&un=m&cl=EN&ct=NA&rsres=1&1ffi=&1l=&1g=&1pl=&1v=&1n=&2ffi=&2l=&2g=&2pl=&2v=&2n=&1pn=&1a=701+BRICKELL+AVE.%2C+SUITE+1600&1c=Miami&1s=FL&1z=33131&2pn=&2a=444+Brickell+Ave.%2C+%231001+&2c=Miami&2s=FL&2z=33131&r=f

The above link is what I got back from mapquest when I put in the Bicknell Ave. Miami, FL 444 & 701, they show the mileage as .15 miles & show both a street map & an arial map, it's interesting to say the least.  Hope the link works.

[Florida]

The "Little Pimps": They were emulating "Mike's Apartment.com"?

Making money?  
I believe what happened that night was filmed by Freddy...
"Freddy needs to tell the truth..."

WHERE is this film?

[Altruist]

I'm so sorry for blowing the margins.

[Florida]

Ernesto Arambatzis
Freddy's brother/Nightclub owner/manager
200 14TH AVE    Recorded: 03/12/2002
MIAMI, FL  33125

[Carnut]

CARNUT:  YOu are reminding me of Reality, MIP6....
"Me thinks you protest too much."

Sure is suspicious ain't it?

[Sue]

I do not rule out the idea that the boys may have made a porn film.
But I think I do rule out the fact that they may have uploaded it to the internet.. I think

#1 no matter if they have deleted it on there computer i think the ALE would have found it on there hard drive

#2 I think it they did upload it it would have been found by someone already .. I think  If people would have seen this video someone would have come forward with Natalee being all over the news and internet

JMO

[Altruist]

That's how dense I am, had never put the addresses in Mapquest.  They give you both the street map & a grab/pull arial satelite map .  That is so neat.  What an improvement.

[klaasend]

I do not rule out the idea that the boys may have made a porn film.
But I think I do rule out the fact that they may have uploaded it to the internet.. I think

#1 no matter if they have deleted it on there computer i think the ALE would have found it on there hard drive

#2 I think it they did upload it it would have been found by someone already .. I think  If people would have seen this video someone would have come forward with Natalee being all over the news and internet

JMO

#1  So you think that if ALE found it on their hard drive they would turn it over to KJ?  You don't think they might conveniently lose those records?

#2  I'm not sure if the quality and lighting in such a video would enable any of us to identify anyone in it, let alone Natalee.

[Florida]

Were they downloading the film to Ernesto?

Ernesto Arambatzis
Graduation Year: 1994
City: Porlamar
State: NE
Country: Venezuela

[Carnut]

I do not rule out the idea that the boys may have made a porn film.
But I think I do rule out the fact that they may have uploaded it to the internet.. I think

#1 no matter if they have deleted it on there computer i think the ALE would have found it on there hard drive

#2 I think it they did upload it it would have been found by someone already .. I think  If people would have seen this video someone would have come forward with Natalee being all over the news and internet

JMO

#1  So you think that if ALE found it on their hard drive they would turn it over to KJ?  You don't think they might conveniently lose those records?

#2  I'm not sure if the quality and lighting in such a video would enable any of us to identify anyone in it, let alone Natalee.

Heh, heh, if you don't think anyone can identify Nat in a such a possible video, then why even discuss the possibility?

It almost falls into the medieval religous discussion catagory of arguing over how many Angels can dance on the head of a pin.

[Sue]

I will fully agree that the ALE is fooked up..
But considering I doubt it was DOMPIG going over the hard drive
but ppl that specialise in that type of So called forensics
Im sorry I just dont see it getting slipped by
That would mean at all levels of police and goverment they are total SCUM
and Im sorry although I agree there are some shady dirtbags on that island I just cant concede that they all are

[Florida]

CARNUT:  I've seen a video I believe is Natalee.....

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CARNUT:  I've seen a video I believe is Natalee.....

       

[Sue]

CARNUT:  I've seen a video I believe is Natalee.....

If you have seen it post it I want to see it
TODAY

[Carnut]

CARNUT:  I've seen a video I believe is Natalee.....

Do you also believe in UFO's?