Lively Case Discussion #563 12/20 - 12/21/2006-DO NOT USE

[crazybabyborg]

Thanks for the pictures. Are pizzelles Danish or German or ??

Italian  

yep. soft or hard are both good      

but i like it when they are soft and you hold one and it bends      

OMG!!        

I've been trying to catch up, and finally got here. In my haste, I wasn't reading the quotes, but just the new stuff. Uh-Hum.........try that with Robots last post!!!
I did a quick re-take to see what was being discussed, I gotta tell you!!!  

[IBE]

CBB    

Nite all!  Sweet dreams.

[blah]

I was just reading in the last thread and          

Anyhow, rather than bring over a completely silly argument from the last thread and continue to allow a certain individual to embarass themselves further I will offer some friendly advice:

When you find yourself in a hole
The 1st thing you do is
STOP DIGGING!!!!

       

[Leslie]

Diario
http://www.diarioaruba.com/
Amigoe
http://www.amigoe.com/english/
BonDia
http://www.cspnv.com/
Solo di Pueblo
http://www.solodipueblo.com/
AweMainta
http://www.awemainta.com/
Aruba Today
http://www.arubatoday.com/
Translator:
http://papiamentu.donamaro.nl

[Carnut]

OK more on the cell phone porn video.

Given that the perps intended to start out the evening to film a porn video, do you really think they planned to just film with a cell phone camera at a cell phone camera's meager resolution?

Ok if the cell phone was the instrument to be used, how did Freddy figure into any of the production? I though he was a semi pro at this kind of thing. Why just a cell phone?

Anyhow how did this cell phone video recording occur?

Was this a continuous streaming video broadcast from the cell phone? Which would mean that the activities were occurring as the cell call was made?

Was the activities filmed by the cell phone and stored on the cell phone? All 8mins or so? Can your phone store 8 mins of video? And then transmitted when the call was made?

Do you really think if the perps started out the evening to do a porn video that they would be satisfied with just a cell video?

Again cell phone trans mission is slow, cell memory is limited, therefore cell video's are of very low resolution, which would almost make the effort worthless.

56K dialup audio is difficult and strains a normal dialups capability, sorry but cell transmission of anything video wise ain't gonna be anywhere near good enough for a porn production, unless someone is so hardup they just want to see it on another cell phone.

[blah]

OK more on the cell phone porn video.

Given that the perps intended to start out the evening to film a porn video, do you really think they planned to just film with a cell phone camera at a cell phone camera's meager resolution?

Ok if the cell phone was the instrument to be used, how did Freddy figure into any of the production? I though he was a semi pro at this kind of thing. Why just a cell phone?

Anyhow how did this cell phone video recording occur?

Was this a continuous streaming video broadcast from the cell phone? Which would mean that the activities were occurring as the cell call was made?

Was the activities filmed by the cell phone and stored on the cell phone? All 8mins or so? Can your phone store 8 mins of video? And then transmitted when the call was made?

Do you really think if the perps started out the evening to do a porn video that they would be satisfied with just a cell video?

Again cell phone trans mission is slow, cell memory is limited, therefore cell video's are of very low resolution, which would almost make the effort worthless.

56K dialup audio is difficult and strains a normal dialups capability, sorry but cell transmission of anything video wise ain't gonna be anywhere near good enough for a porn production, unless someone is so hardup they just want to see it on another cell phone.

Carnut,
look I'm with you on the fact that I doubt the 8.5 minute call was a video transmission, but i'm not going to just take a stance and so there aint no way.  It is possible.

You do not know what you are talking about when it come to transfer rates.  I know it and you know it, you may be able to fool a few of the less technical people around here, but not me.  I create data servers and toss data back and forth all the time.  I pass data back and forth to programs I have created in several different languages including Labview, C++ .NET, Statemate, Matlab/Simulink/Stateflow, CANoe, Java, GL Studio and on many different types of hardware.  I create my own protocals, use TCP/IP, Datasocket, UDP, Bluetooth, and many others.  I know how to define, assemble and disassemble data packets, I know how to stream data.  I know several different strategies for recreating dropped packets and fragmented packets.  I understand data compression and sometimes use my own compression techniques.  I also understand data encryption technologies and apply them to my work when needed. I can stream data to different devices as well, including using cellular technology to transfer data to and from vehicles in the field.  I create very sophisticated computer simulations for a living and I am telling you that you are out of your league with me. If you want to start another thread to discuss this topic, I will gladly give you an education but please, stop this sillyness in this thread.  It is distracting to the people who are trying to prove/disprove their video theory.

[robots]

I was just reading in the last thread and          

Anyhow, rather than bring over a completely silly argument from the last thread and continue to allow a certain individual to embarass themselves further I will offer some friendly advice:

When you find yourself in a hole
The 1st thing you do is
STOP DIGGING!!!!

       

                 

[robots]

Thanks for the pictures. Are pizzelles Danish or German or ??

Italian  

yep. soft or hard are both good      

but i like it when they are soft and you hold one and it bends      

OMG!!        

I've been trying to catch up, and finally got here. In my haste, I wasn't reading the quotes, but just the new stuff. Uh-Hum.........try that with Robots last post!!!
I did a quick re-take to see what was being discussed, I gotta tell you!!!  

         

[robots]

Robots  OT thought of you a few hours ago. Was eating some "delivery" food from a place I'd never order from before. I was cold and hungry at the time. Well, finished eating it today and it sure told me who was boss.

I am like you... I only eat when I know who's cooking and in a place where I can see the kitchen... actually that is only one place where I live.

Do you have to change the oil to a different grade in the winter to keep your arms and legs going?

   

hope your feeling better

merry christmas from your
robotgermaaaaaaphobic

[Carnut]

Carnut,
look I'm with you on the fact that I doubt the 8.5 minute call was a video transmission, but i'm not going to just take a stance and so there aint no way.  It is possible.

You do not know what you are talking about when it come to transfer rates.  I know it and you know it, you may be able to fool a few of the less technical people around here, but not me.  I create data servers and toss data back and forth all the time.  I pass data back and forth to programs I have created in several different languages including Labview, C++ .NET, Statemate, Matlab/Simulink/Stateflow, CANoe, Java, GL Studio and on many different types of hardware.  I create my own protocals, use TCP/IP, Datasocket, UDP, Bluetooth, and many others.  I know how to define, assemble and disassemble data packets, I know how to stream data.  I know several different strategies for recreating dropped packets and fragmented packets.  I understand data compression and sometimes use my own compression techniques.  I also understand data encryption technologies and apply them to my work when needed. I can stream data to different devices as well, including using cellular technology to transfer data to and from vehicles in the field.  I create very sophisticated computer simulations for a living and I am telling you that you are out of your league with me. If you want to start another thread to discuss this topic, I will gladly give you an education but please, stop this sillyness in this thread.  It is distracting to the people who are trying to prove/disprove their video theory.

Yep, it's possible to land men on the moon, but ain't real feasible.

OK. in your league, how much of a video is gonna be transmitted over a cell phone in 8 1/2 mins?

Here's a 2.03 min video on my site that is 5.46meg in MPEG.

http://carnut.org/show/96/star/star001.mpg

Here's my page with a few more videos along with associated sizes.

http://carnut.com/photo/video.html

If you can beat these compressions, let me know I have a ton of videos I would like to host on my site, but so far they take up too much band width for me.

[Tylergal]

AAAAAAANNNNNNNDDD another thing... This forum/site has never subscribed to one single theory. We have looked at every possible theory anyone could possibly think of. The snuff film theory was discussed at length many months ago and has just now come up again. I dare say that almost everyone here does not have one single theory as to what happened that night. To say that this forum/site leans toward any one particular theory is just silly to me as someone who has been here from day one and has gone through all 1,824 different scenerios!

No problem spooky, I just want to let it be known that I can't accept the possiblity of using an 8 1/2 minute cell call to do any video uploads with.

It would seem so obvious, especially with all the trouble folks with dialup have getting the scaredmonkeys radio to work, and that's just audio.

And for all practical purposes these guys were using 2 yr old technology compared to what can be done today.

Of course, as my son who is in the business tells me, they were far more advanced in Venezuela in their technology transmissions than the USA at the time secondary to Bell South having to furnish land lines for all the "wire" people and copper . . . . and that was not a requirement in SA or Venezuela, that they were just able to jump right into advanced technology, so they were ahead of us probably by years at the time this occurred, but not light years.

[Tylergal]

Good morning, Monkeys.

I am hoping we get a good report on Justin's Mama's mamma.  If you are here, my brother had this same operation due to a ruptured diverticulum a few years ago (about 6).  He had the same issues with breathing that your mother is having.   Once he came to live with me, he mended very quickly and was planting a garden by spring.  Incidentally, his occurred on 18 December.  I remember the date well as my husband had a heart attack around the following day, so I had two patients to care for hundreds of miles apart.

KatGram, thank you for your nice note.  No big deal.  It's over and I harbor no hard feelings.  I just know that some things are portrayed to be one way in the MSM, when they are another.

Cubee, I hope your trip is safe and sound and very enjoyable.

I am concerned about Sunfreak as she had a Pseudomonas infection.  Pseudomonas aeruginosa is not something to be taken lightly.  I am somewhat concerned about her welfare.

We had a nice funeral day.  It was such a nice funeral.  I have never attended one like it.  It was a celebration of his life and all the fun and funny things and anecdotes about his life and his children and the jokes he played on his wife and those the kids played on him and their very great relationship.  Hardly any mention of this old Marine's courage, and who would have know this gentle kind man was once a Marine, except for the flag draped over his casket at the end.  The stories were numerous of the fun times and great trips, and the funeral ended on a video of his life from grammar school throughout his life with his children and his recent grandchildren and at the end, the three little grandchildren opened the gifts he had bought them for Christmas and had already wrapped.

[Kimmy53]

Good Morning Monkeys!

Shout out to Muffy!!!  Hiya!  I saw your post to say Hi but was gone already!  How ya been?

[MuffyBee]

Good Morning Monkeys!

Shout out to Muffy!!!  Hiya!  I saw your post to say Hi but was gone already!  How ya been?

Hi Kimmy I was doing some catch up reading.  Are you ready for the holidays?

[Frijole]

Morning monkeys... off to work but checking in.  Be well and hope you are ready for the holidays.

[MuffyBee]

Morning monkeys... off to work but checking in.  Be well and hope you are ready for the holidays.

Good morning Frijole   Are you off on weekends?  Hopefully you are nearing end of work week...

[blah]

Carnut,
look I'm with you on the fact that I doubt the 8.5 minute call was a video transmission, but i'm not going to just take a stance and so there aint no way.  It is possible.

You do not know what you are talking about when it come to transfer rates.  I know it and you know it, you may be able to fool a few of the less technical people around here, but not me.  I create data servers and toss data back and forth all the time.  I pass data back and forth to programs I have created in several different languages including Labview, C++ .NET, Statemate, Matlab/Simulink/Stateflow, CANoe, Java, GL Studio and on many different types of hardware.  I create my own protocals, use TCP/IP, Datasocket, UDP, Bluetooth, and many others.  I know how to define, assemble and disassemble data packets, I know how to stream data.  I know several different strategies for recreating dropped packets and fragmented packets.  I understand data compression and sometimes use my own compression techniques.  I also understand data encryption technologies and apply them to my work when needed. I can stream data to different devices as well, including using cellular technology to transfer data to and from vehicles in the field.  I create very sophisticated computer simulations for a living and I am telling you that you are out of your league with me. If you want to start another thread to discuss this topic, I will gladly give you an education but please, stop this sillyness in this thread.  It is distracting to the people who are trying to prove/disprove their video theory.

Yep, it's possible to land men on the moon, but ain't real feasible.

OK. in your league, how much of a video is gonna be transmitted over a cell phone in 8 1/2 mins?

Here's a 2.03 min video on my site that is 5.46meg in MPEG.

http://carnut.org/show/96/star/star001.mpg

Here's my page with a few more videos along with associated sizes.

http://carnut.com/photo/video.html

If you can beat these compressions, let me know I have a ton of videos I would like to host on my site, but so far they take up too much band width for me.

your question doesnt quite make sense ", how much of a video is gonna be transmitted over a cell phone in 8 1/2 mins?"  But what I think you are trying to ask is, in 8.5 minutes, how long of a video (as in playback time) can be transferred on a cell phone.  The answer really depends on the resolution of the video, the compression and the framerate.  Sure, if you are using MPEG4 format and have an high resolution of 1600x1024 and are shooting for a framerate of over 60 frames per second, you are not going to get a very long video in 8.5 minutes.  I do not know the resolution, data format and recording framerate of most cell phones but I I can safley say that 8.5 minutes can easily transfer a 8.5 minute video at an average upload speed of 800kbs - technology that was available at the time.  Do we even know if this was a cell phone or a cellular card for a laptop, if it was a card in a laptop, the transfer rate could be even higher.

[Tylergal]

Morning, Kimmy, thank you for the kind wishes.  As noted above, we had a very nice funeral, something unusual for a funeral, but it was a fun celebration of his life.  I have never attended a funeral where there were so many happy memories and so much laughing during the ceremony.

MuffyBee, is your dear hubby going to be home with you for Christmas?  I hope you are enjoying your new home and getting it all ready for his arrival.

Morning, Frijole, no not ready for the holidays but I never get everything done that I intended to do and here I am with 2-3 lost days secondary to an untimely death.  C'est la vie.  I never get it all done but it comes and goes regardless.  I do have all the grandchildren gifts and that is the big thing.

[Frijole]

Morning monkeys... off to work but checking in.  Be well and hope you are ready for the holidays.

Good morning Frijole   Are you off on weekends?  Hopefully you are nearing end of work week...

Yes and looking forward to it too!   Hope you are enjoying being back in the states... gotta run!  Later

[Frijole]

Morning, Kimmy, thank you for the kind wishes.  As noted above, we had a very nice funeral, something unusual for a funeral, but it was a fun celebration of his life.  I have never attended a funeral where there were so many happy memories and so much laughing during the ceremony.

MuffyBee, is your dear hubby going to be home with you for Christmas?  I hope you are enjoying your new home and getting it all ready for his arrival.

Morning, Frijole, no not ready for the holidays but I never get everything done that I intended to do and here I am with 2-3 lost days secondary to an untimely death.  C'est la vie.  I never get it all done but it comes and goes regardless.  I do have all the grandchildren gifts and that is the big thing.

Yes, grandkids first!     Santa is visiting my niece and nephews this evening but shhhh don't tell them... he is checking to see if they are naughty or nice.     I love seeing their eyes when he visits them.  ha.