Natalee Case Discussion #828 1/28/10 - 2/14/10

[MuffyBee]

So the guy that kept the family together is gone.  Is Anita strong enough to endure?  How do the brothers feel?  Are they at all angry over having their lives ruined?  Will they blame Joran for Paulus' health?  Do they not know that Joran is draining them of funds and the ability to have peace in their lifetime?  I would think it would be hard to keep it in.  I can hope.

Then there are the Kalpoe brothers.  Have they learned anything since this began?  (I doubt it)! 

Paul might have taken the truth to the grave with him but there are others that know and they lived in that house.

Anita was an enabler IMO.    What happens when the spouse/partner of an enabler dies?  Just thinking. 

[Kermit]

WOW.  Look at those photos.  The first one is one of love, of hope, of the future.  Then something bad happened.  And there was no more hope for the future.  It is time to end the nonsense and come clean.  End the insanity.  Anita, clear the air and give your two sons hope for the future - before it is too late.

YOU ARE SO RIGHT FRIJOLE. 
What if the truth is her husband was the one with Natalee and her son dropped Natalee off at the house and then dropped her on the beach where he realized she was dying. Her son takes the rap to hide what PAPA did. 

EITHER WAY - GIVE NATALEE BACK is the MESSAGE cuz it looks like JUDGEMENT DAY IS HERE!

[texasmom]

I figure that Paulus had life insurance, don't you? IMO, he probably bought even more after Natalee's case.

I was thinking he'd have life insurance, too, CBB.  Also was wondering about the property & holdings in NL & Aruba. 

Depending on how much debt he has - the life insurance may cover his debt and leave Anita and Sebastian forced to move out.

That's what I was thinking.  So many years of attorney's fees to pay for his son.  Wayward son living the life of Riely in Thailand.  Another in college.  Debt could well be too high for that house to remain in her hands.

TUITION AND EXPENSES for Emerson College
Cost of Attendance   $44,359
Tuition and Fees
$29,928
Room and Board   $12,280
Books and Supplies   $720
Other Expenses   $1,431


DEBT to sue the Aruba gov't
DEBT for legal fees with Joe Tacopina Law Office.
DEBT for legal fees for KALPOES
etc. etc.

If his estate owes more then his life insurance - Anita gets zero and the house may have to be sold in order to pay off the remaining debt.

Don't forget the gambling - both he and his son.

Remember Jossy told us in the beginning Paulus was a womanizer and a serious gambler.  I wonder how much he owed Posner on his line of credit at the time of his heart attack

IF it was a heart attack or he became dispensable to the powers-that-be.

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http://www.arubachamber.com/registry/registry_search.afp
 
· Close · Aruba, February 11th, 2010
 
 
 
Only valid if accordingly signed by the Aruba Chamber of Commerce & Industry - J.E. Irausquin Blvd. 10, Oranjestad, Aruba.

Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 18 JANUARY 2007 under serial number 35741.0 is the company with the tradename:
 
 
CARLO & VAN DER SLOOT 
 
Business address CONSTANTIJN HUYGENSTRAAT 5, ORANJESTAD OOST 
Legal form  PARTNERSHIP 
Name of the company  CARLO & VAN DER SLOOT 
Date of commencement  1 JANUARY 2007 
     
THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN CANCELLED ON 8 JANUARY 2010 
   
OWNERS/PARTNERS 
 
ADVOCATENKANTOOR MR A.A.D.A. CARLO N.V. 
 
Position  MANAGING PARTNER 
Since  18 JANUARY 2007 
Authority  FULL 
   
VAN DER SLOOT, PAUL ANTONIUS PETRUS JOHANNA; 
 
Born in  THE NETHERLANDS, BOXTEL on 15 FEBRUARY 1952 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  MANAGING PARTNER 
Effective  18 JANUARY 2007 
Authority  FULL 
   
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY 
 
HET UITOEFENEN VAN EEN ADVOCATENKANTOOR. 

I keep thinking about this.  Does anyone think Oduber being kicked to the curb in the elections at the end of September had anything to do with the following, and with the Carlo & Vandersloot company being cancelled?  

Was Paulus still even with the Carlo law firm when he died?

10/9/2009 Awe Mainta Page 10

http://www.awemainta.com/noticia/



Google translation:

Lawyers mr A.A.D.A. Carlo N.V.
Currently, our office space for:
an attorney-employee
for general legal practice, in particular di
litigation practice.
Written solliciaties, with a curriculum vitae, can
You within fourteen (14) days after the publication of this
ad e-mail/post or by fax addressed to
A.A.D.A. Carlo, whose details can be obtained
become.
Lawyers mr A.A.D.A Carlo N.V.
Constantijn Huygens Street Number
Mon Plaisir, Oranjestad
Aruba
tel: (297) 5824440
fax: (297) 5824460
email: antonio @ carlolawo ce.com

[klaasend]

I keep thinking about this.  Does anyone think Oduber being kicked to the curb in the elections at the end of September had anything to do with the following, and with the Carlo & Vandersloot company being cancelled?  

Was Paulus still even with the Carlo law firm when he died?

10/9/2009 Awe Mainta Page 10

http://www.awemainta.com/noticia/



Google translation:

Lawyers mr A.A.D.A. Carlo N.V.
Currently, our office space for:
an attorney-employee
for general legal practice, in particular di
litigation practice.
Written solliciaties, with a curriculum vitae, can
You within fourteen (14) days after the publication of this
ad e-mail/post or by fax addressed to
A.A.D.A. Carlo, whose details can be obtained
become.
Lawyers mr A.A.D.A Carlo N.V.
Constantijn Huygens Street Number
Mon Plaisir, Oranjestad
Aruba
tel: (297) 5824440
fax: (297) 5824460
email: antonio @ carlolawo ce.com

Wow, very interesting indeed.  Then add in the likely hood that the Kalpoes will come away owing money from their Dr. Phil suit too.   

[Kermit]

Maybe Antonio Carlo was distancing himself from Paulus van der Sloot

[Kermit]

I keep thinking about this.  Does anyone think Oduber being kicked to the curb in the elections at the end of September had anything to do with the following, and with the Carlo & Vandersloot company being cancelled?  

Was Paulus still even with the Carlo law firm when he died?

10/9/2009 Awe Mainta Page 10

http://www.awemainta.com/noticia/



Google translation:

Lawyers mr A.A.D.A. Carlo N.V.
Currently, our office space for:
an attorney-employee
for general legal practice, in particular di
litigation practice.
Written solliciaties, with a curriculum vitae, can
You within fourteen (14) days after the publication of this
ad e-mail/post or by fax addressed to
A.A.D.A. Carlo, whose details can be obtained
become.
Lawyers mr A.A.D.A Carlo N.V.
Constantijn Huygens Street Number
Mon Plaisir, Oranjestad
Aruba
tel: (297) 5824440
fax: (297) 5824460
email: antonio @ carlolawo ce.com

Wow, very interesting indeed.  Then add in the likely hood that the Kalpoes will come away owing money from their Dr. Phil suit too.   

It's the mafia way - remove and move assets

[San]

Greta will be talking about Aruba tonight.  She just went to commercial.

[wreck]

Maybe Antonio Carlo was distancing himself from Paulus van der Sloot

This is starting to get interesting!  I agree about the Kalpoes ................. they should take your advice and try to take asylum in the US. It only takes one "link in the chain" to fail for the whole length to be worthless. That first "masterlink" just failed!

[wreck]

What's happened on Greta????

[can]

Many thanks to the wonderful Monkey who provides the funds for the court documents!  Thanks also to Klaas!   

Rob - Hello back.  Please make yourself known more often

 

[can]

Maybe Antonio Carlo was distancing himself from Paulus van der Sloot

It would be veery interesting to know if there was a parting of the ways, and iif so, why?

[klaasend]

What's happened on Greta????

I'm not watching but my guess is at the end of her hour.  She still has another 25 min. or so.

[can]

So the guy that kept the family together is gone. Is Anita strong enough to endure?  How do the brothers feel?  Are they at all angry over having their lives ruined?  Will they blame Joran for Paulus' health?  Do they not know that Joran is draining them of funds and the ability to have peace in their lifetime?  I would think it would be hard to keep it in.  I can hope.

Then there are the Kalpoe brothers.  Have they learned anything since this began?  (I doubt it)! 

Paul might have taken the truth to the grave with him but there are others that know and they lived in that house.

Anita was an enabler IMO.    What happens when the spouse/partner of an enabler dies?  Just thinking. 

Muffy that's a very interesting question.  Wish I knew the answer.
Would think an enabler would eventually repeat the pattern.  In the meantime she has always enabled Joran, and will continue to do so (to protect secrets) IMO.

[IBE]

Greta, just after the finish of this commercial

[klaasend]

Maybe Antonio Carlo was distancing himself from Paulus van der Sloot

Just wanted to add this in case.  The website still has the Sloot name:

Domain Name.......... carlolawoffice.com
  Creation Date........ 2004-12-11
  Registration Date.... 2004-12-11
  Expiry Date.......... 2010-12-11
  Organisation Name.... Antonio Carlo
  Organisation Address. Constantijn Huygenstr. 5
  Organisation Address.
  Organisation Address. Oranjestad
  Organisation Address. 12345
  Organisation Address. AW
  Organisation Address. ARUBA

Admin Name........... Elvis Lacle
  Admin Address........ Bubali 98-G
  Admin Address........
  Admin Address........ Oranjestad.
  Admin Address........ 12345
  Admin Address........ AW
  Admin Address........ ARUBA
  Admin Email.......... **********@yahoo.com
  Admin Phone.......... +1.2975876688
  Admin Fax............

Tech Name............ YahooDomains TechContact
  Tech Address......... 701 First Ave.
  Tech Address.........
  Tech Address......... Sunnyvale
  Tech Address......... 94089
  Tech Address......... CA
  Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
  Tech Email........... ***********@YAHOO-INC.COM
  Tech Phone........... +1.6198813096
  Tech Fax.............
  Name Server.......... ns1.secure.net
  Name Server.......... ns2.secure.net

[texasmom]

Maybe Antonio Carlo was distancing himself from Paulus van der Sloot

This is starting to get interesting!  I agree about the Kalpoes ................. they should take your advice and try to take asylum in the US. It only takes one "link in the chain" to fail for the whole length to be worthless. That first "masterlink" just failed!

They'd better break out those "pocketless" pants!  

DEEPAK:  Mama, please sew up the pockets in my pants.

MAMA:    Deepak, why would you want mama to sew up your pockets?

DEEPAK:  So when they find me hanging, my hands won't be in them!

MAMA:    SATISH!  Get out from under that bed now, and STOP that whining...I'm trying to
             talk!        
          

[Frijole]

  OH GOD Renfro's voice still creeps me out.

[San]

Julia Renfro sounds drunk.

[San]

According to her sources Joran is in school.

[klaasend]

I'm not watching but so far that I've heard, Renfro is on and she sounds like she's been hitting the bottle again.