Natalee Case Discussion #828 1/28/10 - 2/14/10

[2NJSons_Mom]

According to her sources Joran is in school.

Joran is going to be in "school" just like Satish is going to graduate and become a doctor 

Pimp School? Maybe he is learning how to get Thai girls to strip and prostitute for $'s? Who knew there were classes for this?

Greta, for the love of God, Julia Renfro was the best you could do tonight?

Do they have a choice in those they interview, whether by phone or whatever?  Renfro has had a lot of air time from that hell hole....

[Kermit]

SUDDENLY AND UNEXPECTEDLY DIED

Oh geez Julia Renfro is on the phone.
The island respect the legal system in Aruba and to this very date there has been no charges and Pual has been completely exonerated and had no participation at all.

Where is Joran
According to my sources he is in school and he is very devastated.
Is the investigation closed
Investigation is still open and looking at every aspect and investigating the investigation and to date Joran is still the main suspect and no charges brought forth
Kalpoes till in Aruba
They have been exonerated and not suspects.
At this point there is not enough evidence to bring to trial.
Thank you Julia

IMO besides this case, the lifestyle many in Aruba live is condusive to "sudden and unexpected" death.

being burned
having your penis cut off
jumping from hi-rise hotels

tick tock KALPOES - CALL THE FBI NOW - IT'S YOUR GET OUT OF DEBT CARD

[can]

I'm telling you all do not give up hope on Natalee. It AIN'T over. It really ain't over.

Have a Happy Valentines day - remember to say I love you to those you care about.

love,
kermit
 

Not giving up Kermit...no way!

Happy Valentines day to you and those you love.

[Kermit]

According to her sources Joran is in school.

Joran is going to be in "school" just like Satish is going to graduate and become a doctor 

Takes a long time to get a degree in business for those Arubans.

Kermit, for some reason Joran keeps failing his ETHICS class.

Heh Heh. He is about to fall down the rabbit hole soon.

[Kermit]

GIVING A SHOUT OUT TO ROBOTS
 


It ain't over.
It ain't over

count on it.

night for now.

[robots]

paulus was like

Sennacherib, who challenged God,

died and was murdered by his own son(s)


joran killed Natalee and in his twisted ways.. killed his father




hello everyone, and thanks to the people that got me back in here... you know who you are 

[Kermit]

Posted by Viet Vet on the front page of SM:

viet vet
Submitted on 2010/02/11 at 11:34am

Judas: “I have sinned in that I betrayed innocent blood.” then … Matt.27:3-5,”and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out”……..Paulus is now where he needed to be,,,in Hell with his brother Judas. He split Hell wide open before Joran got the word. A part of the van der Sloot debt is paid. Evil ends as evil does. I hope someone will now come forth with the truth…..and I do hear the sound of…tic,toc,tic,toc.

TICK TOCK...................KALPOES DO YOU HEAR IT...........
all you have to do is contact FBI agents and roll over NOW - look what happened to the guy they all protected.

Yeah...Kermit!What did ya think about him dying on a tennis court Kermit.Sure ya had a giggle about that!Tennis court of all things.Heh heh!

ARUBA NEWS HEADLINE
One-hung-low dead carcass found on the beach

[Kermit]

paulus was like

Sennacherib, who challenged God,

died and was murdered by his own son(s)


joran killed Natalee and in his twisted ways.. killed his father




hello everyone, and thanks to the people that got me back in here... you know who you are 

WELL THANK HEAVEN! You have been missed greatly.
Now oil up baby cuz I'm telln' ya - it ain't over.

I gotta go, but I'll be backkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.

ribbit.

[robots]

GIVING A SHOUT OUT TO ROBOTS
 


It ain't over.
It ain't over

count on it.

night for now.

hey kermit,  nope it aint over   not by a long shot 

[Kiwi]

SUDDENLY AND UNEXPECTEDLY DIED

Oh geez Julia Renfro is on the phone.
The island respect the legal system in Aruba and to this very date there has been no charges and Pual has been completely exonerated and had no participation at all.

Where is Joran
According to my sources he is in school and he is very devastated.
Is the investigation closed
Investigation is still open and looking at every aspect and investigating the investigation and to date Joran is still the main suspect and no charges brought forth
Kalpoes till in Aruba
They have been exonerated and not suspects.
At this point there is not enough evidence to bring to trial.
Thank you Julia

IMO besides this case, the lifestyle many in Aruba live is condusive to "sudden and unexpected" death.

being burned
having your penis cut off
jumping from hi-rise hotels

tick tock KALPOES - CALL THE FBI NOW - IT'S YOUR GET OUT OF DEBT CARD

The Kalpoes need to step up and talk. There is nothing to stop them from telling the truth. That is gone now. There is no one to stop Joran from putting the blame on them. They need to act first.

[Frijole]

According to her sources Joran is in school.

Joran is going to be in "school" just like Satish is going to graduate and become a doctor 

Takes a long time to get a degree in business for those Arubans.

Oh, I thought he was going to the BarTending Institute!   

[Kermit]

Why do I have to go when MISTER RED is here! waaaaaa.

Mister Red come round more often. We're gonna have some poop suit alerts for those Kalpoe boys.

ribbit

[Anna]

You were right, Robots!

Paulus went doooowwwnnnnn!

Fixed typo for Anna in her enthusiasm....Robots is baaaccck.

[Kermit]

GIVING A SHOUT OUT TO ROBOTS
 


It ain't over.
It ain't over

count on it.

night for now.

hey kermit,  nope it aint over   not by a long shot 

I hear ya good buddy

[nonesuche]

I figure that Paulus had life insurance, don't you? IMO, he probably bought even more after Natalee's case.

I was thinking he'd have life insurance, too, CBB.  Also was wondering about the property & holdings in NL & Aruba. 

Depending on how much debt he has - the life insurance may cover his debt and leave Anita and Sebastian forced to move out.

That's what I was thinking.  So many years of attorney's fees to pay for his son.  Wayward son living the life of Riely in Thailand.  Another in college.  Debt could well be too high for that house to remain in her hands.

TUITION AND EXPENSES for Emerson College
Cost of Attendance   $44,359
Tuition and Fees
$29,928
Room and Board   $12,280
Books and Supplies   $720
Other Expenses   $1,431


DEBT to sue the Aruba gov't
DEBT for legal fees with Joe Tacopina Law Office.
DEBT for legal fees for KALPOES
etc. etc.

If his estate owes more then his life insurance - Anita gets zero and the house may have to be sold in order to pay off the remaining debt.

I don't know the law in Aruba about this but here it's you don't Inherit any of your dead husbands debts just his $$$$$assists unless her name is on his bills

If Anita wants to keep Valentijn in Emerson College - SHE will have to pay the tuition on her teacher's salary.

If the home is in both names - she will have to pay the mortage on her teacher's salary.

IF the couple has a will and it's listed as the estate of, then the debts will be paid first with any insurance money - is my understanding of how it goes based upon my own personal experience. But whatdo I know.

Hi Blonde. Happy Valentines Day.
 

Hi none.      And I'm so sorry you had to experience what happens when the head of household passes away.      But I'm just wondering if perhaps the laws might be different in the Netherlands and/or Aruba then in the U.S. in regard to property and etc.  I wonder if they have atrocious estate (death) taxes?   Maybe Val could get a scholarship, not sure if he's a scholar though, and perhaps could show hardship, I don't know about that, just wondering?  And  I'm not sure what might be about property and ownership and etc. on Aruba.  I thought the Sloots had other property or possibly investments?  But I see what you mean about Anita paying for things on a teacher's salary. 

Hi Muffybee-

Thanks for your comments, but please know I wasn't referencing any personal situation I may or may not have had.

I don't know what the estate laws in the Netherlands are but what I was trying to convey is that Paulus' family had some wealth and real estate holdings, some were involved in a quite public suit that he and his family won for a pretty penny additionally.

My point regarding wills, etc would be what he might have left direct to Anita and what he might have left in trust, or any other variation involving his sons. We can't know what that is, not sure I'd want to even try to speculate.

I just think Valentin's educational costs aren't going to be as large an issue for them, as it might be for some.

[Tamikosmom]

BOTTOM LINE - ACCORDING TO JOHN Q. KELLY

'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' - April 11, 2006

JOHN Q. KELLY, HOLLOWAY FAMILY ATTORNEY: ... And it’s sort of ironic that it’s his father who brought his underage son to a casino and left him there after he left, with access to his line of credit, to put this unfortunate chain of events in process.
 
You know, if Joran had never been there, not been allowed in there, because he’s underage and wasn’t accompanied by his father, the whole rest of the night wouldn’t have happened.

RITA COSBY, HOST: You know, and, John, also, why would that be a significant—why is that in conflict to something else we’ve heard maybe from Paulus before?

KELLY: Well, he’s just claiming that, you know, he’s kept an eye on his son, you know, he’s kept him on a short leash, and, you know, his son is very well-behaved. And it turns out that he’s, you know, got him at casinos. If you’re under 18, you’re not legally even allowed in casinos, so his son was breaking the law with him enabling it.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12150698/

[IBE]

Hi ROBOTS.

You found the "oil".

[robots]

You were right, Tobots!

Paulus went doooowwwnnnnn!

he sure did...

and next will be  _ _ _ _ _  _

[robots]

Hi ROBOTS.

You found the "oil".

 ::MonkeySlide::yepper with some help 

[klaasend]

Robots!!!!!!!!

You made it!!!!