Natalee Case Discussion #828 1/28/10 - 2/14/10

[Ono]

I'm wondering if Anita had PVDS cremated to insure no one could desecrate his gravesite?  Remember when the cemetery in Aruba was vandalised, (select graves) some felt it was a message?   

There's no telling with those people.  Everything there is sleight of hand, IMO.

[Anna]

Obviously, Julia didn't even see Nancy Grace or she is intentionally lying.

Has to be one or the other and both are lies.

And yes, since when has the news in Aruba failed to make the mose of a good corpse photo-op!  I mean, usually they print them even if the corpse is stark naked!  Why the big pass on this particular event?

[Bearlyhere]

<--- thinks the snakes and weasels on the island are gonna start puking up some info..

mind you, not because its the right thing to do but because they think there is $$$$$ in it down the road.


on another subject,   DUCT TAPE  aint an accident    reference casey anthony case

yep, you are right... 

back to quoting myself.....LOL    today is the 17 month of NOT SMOKING...

Except for your Monkey Avi!   

Congratulations!  We don't want you dropping over on a tennis court!

 

[Magnolia]

I'm wondering if Anita had PVDS cremated to insure no one could desecrate his gravesite?  Remember when the cemetery in Aruba was vandalised, (select graves) some felt it was a message?   

That thought has crossed my mind, Muffy.  But why haul him all the way to NL to cremate him?
The sequence of events that has been reported is suspect to me.

[Magnolia]

Obviously, Julia didn't even see Nancy Grace or she is intentionally lying.

Has to be one or the other and both are lies.

And yes, since when has the news in Aruba failed to make the mose of a good corpse photo-op!  I mean, usually they print them even if the corpse is stark naked!  Why the big pass on this particular event?

I think it is because Tierra del Sol is way out on the NW end of the island and they took the
body away before reporters could get there.  I think it is where the Gottenbos' lived.

 
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Refrigerator (A)
Pool (Children) (O)
Air Conditioning (In Room) (A)
Laundry Room (X)
Car Rental (X)
Scuba Diving (N)
Concierge Services (X)
Golf Course (O)
Multi-lingual Staff (X)
Beach (N)
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Room Service (X)
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Boating/Sailing (N)
Casino (N)
Babysitting or Child Care (X)
Tennis (Outdoor) (O)
Telephone (A)
Health Club (O)
Bicycling (N)

[MuffyBee]

I'm wondering if Anita had PVDS cremated to insure no one could desecrate his gravesite?  Remember when the cemetery in Aruba was vandalised, (select graves) some felt it was a message?   

That thought has crossed my mind, Muffy.  But why haul him all the way to NL to cremate him?
The sequence of events that has been reported is suspect to me.

I know what you mean.  But is there a crematorium in Aruba?  Was that ever established/verified? I'm wondering if he was taken off Aruba and an autopsy was done secretly?  Or maybe he was just whisked outta there and cremated asap.  Cremation is against some folks religious beliefs, but not sure exactly what that would be for the Sloots.  So many questions, not enough answers.  I find it hard to believe there was a cremation without an autopsy to determine a cause of death.  I'm wondering if once again what is usual and SOP  (standard operating procedure) is made different for the Sloots? 

[Rob]

Obviously, Julia didn't even see Nancy Grace or she is intentionally lying.

Has to be one or the other and both are lies.

And yes, since when has the news in Aruba failed to make the mose of a good corpse photo-op!  I mean, usually they print them even if the corpse is stark naked!  Why the big pass on this particular event?

cause he's Dutch. You know this Anna ... and I'm sure he's dead. No conspiracy here folks. He looked like uber crap the last few years, and Joran ate up whatever time he had left rather quickly.

[Bearlyhere]

I'm wondering if Anita had PVDS cremated to insure no one could desecrate his gravesite?  Remember when the cemetery in Aruba was vandalised, (select graves) some felt it was a message?   

I would think so his body could not be tested.  Imagine all the evil spirits jumping out at someone cutting him open.

 

[Rob]

ohhh and another thing, that drunk bimbo - yaknow - Julie. Wow just delusional and obviously getting much worse as time goes on. Between gang banging half the island, lying about Beth, lying about Natalee, defending all things Sloot, drinking herself into oblivion, facebook and RU - when does she have time for her kids?

I guess they are better off without her around huh!!

[Anna]

Obviously, Julia didn't even see Nancy Grace or she is intentionally lying.

Has to be one or the other and both are lies.

And yes, since when has the news in Aruba failed to make the mose of a good corpse photo-op!  I mean, usually they print them even if the corpse is stark naked!  Why the big pass on this particular event?

cause he's Dutch. You know this Anna ... and I'm sure he's dead. No conspiracy here folks. He looked like uber crap the last few years, and Joran ate up whatever time he had left rather quickly.

Yep, usually only brown people get photographed naked and dead.  But there is no racism in Aruba as we saw with the arrest of the two security guards, lol!

He probably is really dead but no autopsy in this day and age in the death of an alleged healthy person is unusual.  Maybe his kids inherited some dread heart condition.  Maybe Anita just doesn't really care what caused his death.

Who knows!

[Tamikosmom]

On the Record w/ Greta

Chief Suspect Van der Sloot's Dad Dies: Did Holloway Secrets Go to the Grave?
Friday, February 12, 2010

JULIA RENFRO, EDITOR, "ARUBA TODAY" (Via Telephone): Good evening, Greta. It was very shocking for the van der Sloot family and the entire community of Aruba. Paul was playing tennis yesterday and he collapsed. And the ambulance was unfortunately unable to resuscitate him.

VAN SUSTEREN: What has been going on for the family? Is everything sort of "back to normal," of is the family shunned at all? What has been the relationship of the van der Sloots on the island?

RENFRO: You have to understand that the island of Aruba, the people of Aruba respect the judicial system here. And to this very date, there have been no charges in this case. And Paul has been completely exonerated.

He, according to the authorities, has no participation in the event at all, and, sorry to say that, but in this case. It has just been devastating for everybody.

More:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,585581,00.html

[MuffyBee]

Obviously, Julia didn't even see Nancy Grace or she is intentionally lying.

Has to be one or the other and both are lies.

And yes, since when has the news in Aruba failed to make the mose of a good corpse photo-op!  I mean, usually they print them even if the corpse is stark naked!  Why the big pass on this particular event?

cause he's Dutch. You know this Anna ... and I'm sure he's dead. No conspiracy here folks. He looked like uber crap the last few years, and Joran ate up whatever time he had left rather quickly.

Yep, usually only brown people get photographed naked and dead.  But there is no racism in Aruba as we saw with the arrest of the two security guards, lol!

He probably is really dead but no autopsy in this day and age in the death of an alleged healthy person is unusual.  Maybe his kids inherited some dread heart condition.  Maybe Anita just doesn't really care what caused his death.

Who knows!

BBM
The exception to usually only brown people getting photographed naked and dead would be some of the tourists.  You know.  The ones that are the lifeblood of the island,  yet are drugged, raped, killed scammed and etc.  JMHO

[Rob]

Anita always was a very very cheap ass... look at her clothes for heavens sake. And she takes terrible care of herself. So there you have it. No casket to save money, and stick him in an old pickle jar and on the mantle. Case closed and over.  Oh and she thinks she's an artist - what a joke that is. Why is it that every Dutch person with tons of time on their hands thinks they're an artist?

Did I mention how happy I am he's gone? LOL...

no idea why she is sending his corpse back to Holland when they could just roast him up on Aruba, makes no sense, unless his final trip is a coffin full of cocaine with the wonderful baggage handlers of KLM    but it's neither here nor there - their sloots and they're crazy like everyone else on that island - just plain delinquent nuts.

[Tamikosmom]

Natalee Holloway:Paulus van der Sloot, father of Joran van der Sloot, dead of cardiac arrest

Posted February 11, 2010 by Klaasend

102.Steve Holloway on February 12th, 2010 10:38 am

I have mixed emotions about Paulus death. It reminds me of the nightmare this man caused our family, my brother Dave his wife Robin and Jug and Beth, to impede justice to protect his son.

Paulus had to have a great deal of grief to carry around all these’s years. I don’t believe he could have been a happy man, I mean truly happy. The kind of happiness that you get from someone telling you that you have a wonderful child and they are a blessing to have in their class room or the kind of happiness you get after helping a person in need, whether its big or small making a different in their life.

God wants us to serve others.

Paulus needed help but chose blindly to help his son hide behind his influence with Judges and knowledge of the law. With such a burden to carry is it possible that Paulus made a video confessing the true events that happen, to lighten his conscience? I will not hold my breath.

Paulus right now is in one of two places, Heaven or hell. It was his choice, no one else’s. If he’s in Hell its not anybody’s fault but his, not our family and certainly not anything Natalee did.

The only good from his death is to show the rest of his family what its like to lose a loved one. Now we have something in common. I pray he made peace with God before he passed away.

Now the last commit on his death. You may ask yourself do I believe what I preach about “GOD” and JESUS CHRIST saving us from our sins and forgiving others of the wrong they do against us. The answer is YES. I don’t cause the burden around with me twenty four seven of hate, or murder in my heart, or vengeance which is God’s and unforgiveness. I give it to GOD and live my life the best I can for HIM. Now I make this choice.

I forgive Paulus.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2010/02/11/paulus-van-der-sloot-father-of-joran-van-der-sloot-dead-of-cardiac-arrest/#comments

[crazybabyborg]

Magnolia did a great obituary, and San has offered to say a few words. Here's my contribution;a Memorial Picture:

[Ono]

   

[Ono]

What has become of the Gottenbos' family, anyway?   Are they still [or, ever actually ] in Georgia?

[Tamikosmom]

Natalee Holloway:Paulus van der Sloot, father of Joran van der Sloot, dead of cardiac arrest

Posted February 11, 2010 by Klaasend

99.viet vet on February 12th, 2010 10:28 am

What if someone poisoned Paulus. There are some choline type drugs that produce death just like a heart attack. Maybe some of his pals think it is time to cover up the story forever. Or maybe one of his gangster friends is collecting an old debt. Joran could be next or even Anita. That Aruba is a strange place, best all tourists stay away….like forever. The boycott goes on. Never go to the Island of Death.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2010/02/11/paulus-van-der-sloot-father-of-joran-van-der-sloot-dead-of-cardiac-arrest/#comments

[Rob]

The average life span on Aruba is not long like it is in the US. It's not 77+ years. And that's do to alot of factors. Drinking poison would be one and terrible medical facilities would be another. No one there really makes it to 100 other than that ancient lady from Venezuela or Colombia who didn't speak papiamento. In fact that was so rare - they did a newspaper story on it. When reading their papers there are many many middle aged people dying - it's hardly uncommon.

In Paulus' last few years - he really looked terrible and it's highly plausible that he had a heart condition and was being treated. When ever I saw pictures of him - he was always drinking something that looked alcoholic. That's a no no if you have a heart condition. He also looked to be a good thirty pounds over weight in the last few years - again a no no. He did not resemble the young man that was rather lean but more of an old shlub that was at the end of his life.

Like I said - having Joran for a son is bound to make your heart collapse in upon itself. And to be involved in the disappearance of a little girl - well, it all took it's toll and I don't think Paulus was surprised as he drew his last breath.

[Magnolia]

I tend to agree with viet vet.  I don't think Paulus died of natural causes.  I think he was taken out.
He had become a liability with the new gov't in place.  JMO