Natalee Case Discussion #828 1/28/10 - 2/14/10

[Anna]

Hi  Bearly,

LOL Yes, MMMMmmmm they were gooooooood!




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Hi Anna,

Unfortunately, I didn't have my vid rig set up.... I missed both Greta and Nancy last night.

Well, bummer. . .was just trying to help Julia out as she was lying earlier and said Beth was telling lies about Paulus when Beth hasn't said a word.

Nancy played old tapes of Beth. Dave and Jossy were on the telephone but not a word from Beth.

Julia will even lie about a death, it seems.

That woman is awful. She sounded drunk as a skunk.


Why Greta feels the need to talk to her, I have no idea.


She would get more info out of a homeless person.

She posted the lies about Beth on her Twitter I think.  Klaas posted it a couple of pages back.

I wonder why she felt the need to throw out a few lies about Beth like that just out of the blue.  Just nuts!

[Blonde]

We're getting pretty touchy on the FP if this was censored.


Carpe on Your comment is awaiting moderation. February 12th, 2010 5:27 pm

Viet Vet,

That’s probably why they’re shipping that fat sack of alcoholic butt crack back to the Netherlands.

They have a crematory on the island, so if they wanted to throw him in the toaster and be done with him… they could.

To complete a thorough autopsy on Paulus… they need educated people and some technology. Those things will not be found in Aruba.

If they poisoned Paulus using his very own play book of rules… they’ll never find a shred of evidence. No evidence, no crime, Sporter.

MISS YOU  

[klaasend]

Last nights Greta with a very drunk sounding Renfro:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/dcfSIVSL548&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0x6b8ab6" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/dcfSIVSL548&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0x6b8ab6</a>

[Ono]

Who was he playing tennis with?

     That's a good question.

And maybe I'm just getting old but so was he but isn't 10:45 at night a bit late for an old geezer to be playing tennis, anyway?  Maybe he had to wait for the sun to be down so he wouldn't sweat so much.

Yikes-Is that what time it was?   I did not know.  If so, that is quite late.   

[Magnolia]

Is there any truth to the rumor.... that Jossy said Aruba plans to arrest Joran if he comes to Aruba
for Paulus' memorial service?

I believe the de Witte or whatever the guy is in charge now said is NO, that he would not arrest Joran that it wouldn't be appropriate in this instance.

Thanks Klaas,  I wish it were true.  I would find it enjoyable.

[Ono]

Who was he playing tennis with?

Michael Posner?????

 

[carpe noctem]

Hi Blonde!!!


Missed you too.


 

[Buckeye]

Is there any truth to the rumor.... that Jossy said Aruba plans to arrest Joran if he comes to Aruba
for Paulus' memorial service?

I believe the de Witte or whatever the guy is in charge now said is NO, that he would not arrest Joran that it wouldn't be appropriate in this instance.

Thanks Klaas,  I wish it were true.  I would find it enjoyable.

Well, the island is rather famous for their lying.  Maybe deWitte is lying.  We can hope.

[Ono]

Is there any truth to the rumor.... that Jossy said Aruba plans to arrest Joran if he comes to Aruba
for Paulus' memorial service?

Have no idea-that would be interesting tho.

[carpe noctem]

Aruba is looking deader than Paulus! Never saw that coming.



Aruba Amigoe

February 12, 2010, 13:21

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Aruba has a growing number of vacant business premises


ORANGE CITY - The economy shows little signs of recovery. "The number of new businesses that registered in January, the lowest since 2006. If this trend continues, 2010 will be the worst year since 2004, warns the Chamber of Commerce (CoC).

[Ono]

I'm wondering if Anita had PVDS cremated to insure no one could desecrate his gravesite?  Remember when the cemetery in Aruba was vandalised, (select graves) some felt it was a message?   

I volunteered last night to "desecrate" his grave after drinking some beers! 

    That's the least a beerologist can do!

[Tibrogargan]

I have been following these events as a guest in the rafters and it is great to see so many original Monkeys back to share the cage again.  And thank you to the “Monkey behind the Curtain” for their contributions to obtaining court documents and to Klaas for making sure we are kept up to date.

We all know that Paulus will have to stand before the Almighty to be judged and that he cannot use deception or bribery there to subvert the course of true and everlasting Justice.

My thoughts on these events is that Paulus’ body has already been sent to NL for the autopsy where there are better facilities and technicians.  Also it would be so much easier to keep findings confidential in Europe than on that pile of rubble.

I do not expect much in the way of new revelations about Natalee’s case from any involved.  Any of the corrupt judiciary or law enforcement, from whom Paulus called in favours to cover for his and his murdering son’s actions, will still be afraid of their own dirty secrets that Paulus knew and used as a form of blackmail.  These officials, who are no better than common criminals, will be unlikely to tell anything as they would also be incriminating themselves in all manner of underhand dealings.

Also I made the mistake of listening to Renfro’s segment of lies on Greta and all I can comment is one of our famous Aussie phrases :

She was as pizzed as a parrot.   



OT   I hope all monkeys are keeping safe from your dreadful storms.

[Anna]

Who was he playing tennis with?

     That's a good question.

And maybe I'm just getting old but so was he but isn't 10:45 at night a bit late for an old geezer to be playing tennis, anyway?  Maybe he had to wait for the sun to be down so he wouldn't sweat so much.

Yikes-Is that what time it was?   I did not know.  If so, that is quite late.  

Maybe I'm wrong about that.

Does any one know for sure?  That is from memory but maybe it is the time he was pronounced including time for physician to arrive and do so.

[Bearlyhere]

Hi  Bearly,

LOL Yes, MMMMmmmm they were gooooooood!




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Hi Anna,

Unfortunately, I didn't have my vid rig set up.... I missed both Greta and Nancy last night.

 

[crazybabyborg]

Hi all! 

I'm trying to stay caught up, but didn't know that the decision had been made for there to be no memorial service for Paulus. Is that right?

[Bearlyhere]

I'm wondering if Anita had PVDS cremated to insure no one could desecrate his gravesite?  Remember when the cemetery in Aruba was vandalised, (select graves) some felt it was a message?   

I volunteered last night to "desecrate" his grave after drinking some beers! 

It would be great if the autopsy showed that Anita's cooking killed him... and she
was the next Aruba Polis detention.

Sporter, still have that cell phone lying around? It needs some more minutes.

Heck no, if $10 is good enough for the sporter then $1 is good enough for his Mom, VDS house rules!  I thought if seeing Anita in her snazzy outfits didn't stop his heart, nothing would.

 

[Nut44x4]

Anita should have wanted an autopsy because she has three sons.
There are many things that could have been Paulus cause of death, including poison.

How could the death be deemed a heart attack with no autopsy???

I agree. O/T sort of, lol  My BIL dropped dead in a restaurant. No autopsy performed as he was diabetic/alcoholic/heavy smoker. Medics said heart attack...but I think my sister poisoned him. She always used to tell him to drop dead....and he did  I wouldn't eat any food she brought to me for 3 years after that 

[Magnolia]

Hi all! 

I'm trying to stay caught up, but didn't know that the decision had been made for there to be no memorial service for Paulus. Is that right?

I have not heard that CBB.  The only "plans" that I have seen were from NL which said that Anita was
accompaning the corpse to NL for cremation and there would be a memorial service in Aruba at a later
date.

[crazybabyborg]

Hi all! 

I'm trying to stay caught up, but didn't know that the decision had been made for there to be no memorial service for Paulus. Is that right?

I have not heard that CBB.  The only "plans" that I have seen were from NL which said that Anita was
accompaning the corpse to NL for cremation and there would be a memorial service in Aruba at a later
date.

Thank you, Miss Magnolia!  I was reading through the posts pretty quickly and perhaps read something wrong!

[IBE]

DEEPAK - DON'T BE STUPID - do it today. Make the call to the American FBI. If not for you, your family.

Is it easy and safe to do that from Aruba? I thought the Aruban LE said they couldn't leave, only Joran could?

Wouldn't they have to have a Passport and Visa, so how could they get out if the govt. said they can't? Many my memory is wrong.

Could it be they don't know how to do it... ie: approach the FBI? I know I have been "brushed off" by them and I am a US resident. Not meaning in anyway that they aren't dedicated.

There isn't an embassy right???? The US embassy rep. was a friend of Paulus and she was transferred to Asia. If A is Aruba and C is being in the US via the FBI... How do they get to B?