Natalee Case Discussion #828 1/28/10 - 2/14/10

[Tamikosmom]

SELF EDIT

I do not have clue s/b I do not have a clue where to begin looking.

[Magnolia]

I realize that you do not have a clue.  That is why I was telling you that the chat session
is included in evidence obtained by Dr. Phil's attorneys.

[texasmom]

http://www.24ora.com/content/view/15992/18/



mike eman do not see problem for fredis refunjol stay governor

friday, 05 february 2010 - 11:03

if all cos is good at month of may 2010 fredis refunjol his first season of six anja because; governor will termina. do not conoci if will is buscando one governor new or esun actual will go stay. if for may not achieve a at once the actual governor can follow till hour achieve a. click read more for more info... also can is the caso cu governor fredis refunjol is being named after for la queen for another anja more. first minister of aruba also have one rol because; dirigente of the country. time cu nelson oduber was first minister of country aruba past owing to go busca sosten close mike eman personalmente for can achieve sosten cu one base more amplio. after of owing to give fredis refunjol beneficio of doubt today six anja owing to transcuri y his first season owing to end. in one declaracion haci for first minister mike eman past owing to let know at once cu the not have problem for her governor actual stay six anja more.

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written by guest1000, february 05, 2010 i niether have problem...dus not have nothing more for ask about...freddy for 6 year more come across!!! +16 come across...

written by pacheco, february 05, 2010 all day...ohala the stay 6 more,esi is one good person self,un person dainty........ +6 come across...

written by palanca of mep, february 05, 2010 freddy all day. the have to is minsister president now. the is mihor cu mike. is pesey self have to lagele stop keto keto. come across

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http://www.kabga.aw/en/index.php?page=gouverneur

Governor H.E. Mr. F.J. Refunjol. Governor Refunjol was born in Aruba in 1950, and is married to Clarette Lopez. Together they have two daughters and one son. Mr. Refunjol assumed the office of Governor on May 1, 2004. The debate by Aruban Parliament regarding the nomination of Mr. Refunjol for Governor stood out, because his nomination was supported unanimously. At that time, he already had a long political career behind him. In his last position, he acted as the Minister of Education and Administrative Affairs, as well as Vice-Prime Minister. Mr. Refunjol also was the informateur (politician who investigates on behalf of the Crown whether a proposed cabinet formation will succeed) during the formation of the Cabinets Oduber I and II, and he was the formateur of Cabinet Oduber III.


http://www.kabga.aw/pdf/20060524_cv_governor_en.pdf



http://www.kabga.aw/en/index.php?page=bevoegdheden

Powers
The powers of the Governor (  ++ specifications ) can be subdivided into the powers vested in him by law as Kingdom Body and as National Body.

The Governor represents the Kingdom Government. As Kingdom Body, he watches over the general interest of the Kingdom, he is charged with the implementation of Kingdom Acts, General Administrative Orders, and international treaties and conventions, and he monitors compliance therewith. Within this framework, citizens are mainly familiar with the implementation by the Governor of the Passport Act (issue of travel documents and visa) and the implementation of the Netherlands Nationality Act (naturalization and option).

The Governor also represents the Queen in Aruba and, consequently, is the head of the Government of Aruba. The Governor is immune and exercises his powers under the responsibility of the ministers, who, in turn, have to report on their actions to Parliament.

The Governor represents the Queen when royal honors are conferred and when Parliament is inaugurated. He is responsible for the formation of a cabinet, passes state ordinances and state decrees, and is responsible for the appointment, swearing-in, and discharge of a number of dignitaries, such as ministers, members of the Public Prosecutions Department, and the Procurator General. As head of state, the Governor may also grant a pardon and give permission to military aircraft and vessels of a foreign Power to enter the Aruban airspace or territorial waters.

http://www.kabga.aw/en/index.php?page=oud_gouverneurs

Former Governors
The first Governor of Aruba was Mr. F.B. Tromp. He was appointed by Royal Decree of September 27, 1985, No. 16, as of January 1, 1986.

The second Governor of Aruba was Mr. mr. O. Koolman. He was appointed by Royal Decree of January 28, 1992, No. 92.000904, as of January 29, 1992.

The third and present Governor of Aruba is Governor Refunjol. He was appointed by Royal Decree of May 4, 2004, No. 04.001780, as of May 1, 2004.

[texasmom]

written by pacheco, february 05, 2010 all day...ohala the stay 6 more,esi is one good person self,un person dainty........ +6 come across...

 

[Tamikosmom]

Just catching up and I really enjoy all the posts by all Monkeys...
This thread is alive with the hope that the Dr. Phil trial goes forward, and disposition of k2 in LA...

I have always thought, like many of you, that paulass was directly involved the night Natalee went missing, and I always felt she was at the sloot hellhole. For me, it came clear when the photo at the blackjack table with paulass next to Natalee and her obvious discomfort....

What I think will be very interesting as the deposition/trial date approaches......how long k2 survives....if k2 appears for deposition...if the lawsuit goes to trial.......the longer it goes towards a trial....the worst it would seem it gets for k2/paulass/ahata/aruba......when will the powers that be deem k2 a liability.....and disappear them.......

billb ... I theorize that Joran, Deepak, Satish, the sons of the elite and Paulus were all present at the van der Sloot residence doing the unspeakable against the person of Natalee Holloway who appeared to be an unconscious.  I suspect that Natalee had been targeted by Paulus at the casino.

Later Joran, Satish (?) and Deepak took what appeared to be an unconscious Natalee to the beach where the assumption was that she would sleep off the drugs and ... make her way back to the hotel ... pack and ... fly home to Alabama with no recollection of what took place at the van der Sloot residence.  It had been done many times before without incident.

However ... upon arriving at the beach ... Joran, Satish (?) and Deepak realized that Natalee was deceased ...

IMO

Think about the suspicions that warranted the initial detainment of all the suspects in the Natalee Holloway case.

Janet

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INITIAL ARRESTS - JUNE, 2005

1.  Joran van der Sllot:  Suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder

2.  Deepak Kalpoe:   Suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder.

3.  Satish Kalpoe:  Suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder.

4. Steve Croes:   Suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder.   

5.  Paulus van der Sloot:  complicity to pre-meditated murder, complicity to kidnapping and murder and kidnapping.

SUBSEQUENT ARRESTS - APRIL, 2006

6.  Geoffrey van Cromvoirt:  criminal offenses that may be related to the disappearance" of Natalee Holloway.

7.  Guido Weaver:  Assisting in the murder, heavy battery and kidnapping" of the teen


Diana Emerencia
Associated Press
August 31, 2005

ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) — ... A third man was arrested with the Kalpoes but his lawyer said Monday that it was unrelated to Holloway's disappearance.

Freddy Alexander Zedan-Arambatzis, a friend of van der Sloot and the Kalpoes, was arrested on suspicion of having unspecified "physical contact" with a female minor, said his lawyer, Diana Emerencia.

Zedan-Arambatzis, 21, is also suspected of photographing the girl in "tempting poses" and showing the images to other people, Emerencia said.

The Kalpoe brothers and van der Sloot are also suspected of involvement in the incidents, which allegedly occurred before Holloway disappeared, she said.
 
http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/news/050831/aruba.shtml


The Gathering - VDS' Residence

Jossy Mansur
'Scarborough Country'
August 26, 2005

DANIELS:  It definitely smells that way.  You know, if you take the prosecution‘s statement at its face, we are talking on a whole new level, the charges here.  We are talking about drugs.  We are talking about rape and we are talking about rape of many different people.  There are four guys now in custody, four best friends.  What does that tell you?
 
MANSUR:  Well, what it tells me is that, really, these four guys are friends.  They belong to the same group, these party boys that go out and prey on young, unsuspected girls or other kinds of girls also that are out to have a good time, not suspecting what they‘re in for with these predators around.

And they are—they not only appear in photographs together, but I understand that Freddy lives very near to the Joran house.  So, there is a bond between them.  There is a group that they call themselves the pimps, in which all of these participate.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9119491/

[2NJSons_Mom]

 

Natalee's Candles....thanks to the faithful, the lights are on....

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5700.0

[texasmom]

Natalee's Candles....thanks to the faithful, the lights are on....

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5700.0

Thanks for reminding us!   

[Magnolia]

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By Star-Ledger Staff
February 06, 2010, 12:00AM

Bundle up 2NJ and stay warm.

[Keepthefaith]

 

[Keepthefaith]

Some great dialogue today.

[Keepthefaith]

Keepthefaith, klaasend, Lifesong and 2 Guests

 

[Keepthefaith]

Keepthefaith, klaasend, Lifesong and 2 Guests

 

[klaasend]

Keepthefaith, klaasend, Lifesong and 2 Guests

 

Would you like me to put you in your Valentine's outfit? 

[Keepthefaith]

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY

NIGHTMARES FOR PVDS

GOODNIGHT & GOD BLESS

KEEPTHEFAITH

 

[Keepthefaith]

Keepthefaith, klaasend, Lifesong and 2 Guests

 

Would you like me to put you in your Valentine's outfit? 

That would be great Klaas.Thanx!

[klaasend]

There...now you look better

Have a good night all!

[Keepthefaith]

As my good friend Jeff Spicoli would say "Awesome!Totally awesome"...

[Keepthefaith]

As my good friend Jeff Spicoli would say "Awesome!Totally awesome"...

I broke that out for you BillB

[Keepthefaith]

There...now you look better

Have a good night all!

 

[billb's daughter]

Just catching up and I really enjoy all the posts by all Monkeys...
This thread is alive with the hope that the Dr. Phil trial goes forward, and disposition of k2 in LA...

I have always thought, like many of you, that paulass was directly involved the night Natalee went missing, and I always felt she was at the sloot hellhole. For me, it came clear when the photo at the blackjack table with paulass next to Natalee and her obvious discomfort....

What I think will be very interesting as the deposition/trial date approaches......how long k2 survives....if k2 appears for deposition...if the lawsuit goes to trial.......the longer it goes towards a trial....the worst it would seem it gets for k2/paulass/ahata/aruba......when will the powers that be deem k2 a liability.....and disappear them.......

billb ... I theorize that Joran, Deepak, Satish, the sons of the elite and Paulus were all present at the van der Sloot residence doing the unspeakable against the person of Natalee Holloway who appeared to be an unconscious.  I suspect that Natalee had been targeted by Paulus at the casino.

Later Joran, Satish (?) and Deepak took what appeared to be an unconscious Natalee to the beach where the assumption was that she would sleep off the drugs and ... make her way back to the hotel ... pack and ... fly home to Alabama with no recollection of what took place at the van der Sloot residence.  It had been done many times before without incident.

However ... upon arriving at the beach ... Joran, Satish (?) and Deepak realized that Natalee was deceased ...

IMO

Think about the suspicions that warranted the initial detainment of all the suspects in the Natalee Holloway case.

Janet

+++++++


INITIAL ARRESTS - JUNE, 2005

1.  Joran van der Sllot:  Suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder

2.  Deepak Kalpoe:   Suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder.

3.  Satish Kalpoe:  Suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder.

4. Steve Croes:   Suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder.   

5.  Paulus van der Sloot:  complicity to pre-meditated murder, complicity to kidnapping and murder and kidnapping.

SUBSEQUENT ARRESTS - APRIL, 2006

6.  Geoffrey van Cromvoirt:  criminal offenses that may be related to the disappearance" of Natalee Holloway.

7.  Guido Weaver:  Assisting in the murder, heavy battery and kidnapping" of the teen


Diana Emerencia
Associated Press
August 31, 2005

ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) — ... A third man was arrested with the Kalpoes but his lawyer said Monday that it was unrelated to Holloway's disappearance.

Freddy Alexander Zedan-Arambatzis, a friend of van der Sloot and the Kalpoes, was arrested on suspicion of having unspecified "physical contact" with a female minor, said his lawyer, Diana Emerencia.

Zedan-Arambatzis, 21, is also suspected of photographing the girl in "tempting poses" and showing the images to other people, Emerencia said.

The Kalpoe brothers and van der Sloot are also suspected of involvement in the incidents, which allegedly occurred before Holloway disappeared, she said.
 
http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/news/050831/aruba.shtml


The Gathering - VDS' Residence

Jossy Mansur
'Scarborough Country'
August 26, 2005

DANIELS:  It definitely smells that way.  You know, if you take the prosecution‘s statement at its face, we are talking on a whole new level, the charges here.  We are talking about drugs.  We are talking about rape and we are talking about rape of many different people.  There are four guys now in custody, four best friends.  What does that tell you?
 
MANSUR:  Well, what it tells me is that, really, these four guys are friends.  They belong to the same group, these party boys that go out and prey on young, unsuspected girls or other kinds of girls also that are out to have a good time, not suspecting what they‘re in for with these predators around.

And they are—they not only appear in photographs together, but I understand that Freddy lives very near to the Joran house.  So, there is a bond between them.  There is a group that they call themselves the pimps, in which all of these participate.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9119491/

First instincts often times turn out to be closest to the truth.....
Kermit posed a great scenario yesterday that paulass was the main perp.....using urine/k2 to separate Natalee from the MB crowd...
Natalee was targeted and was delivered to the sloot hellhole.....something bad happened......
paulass had to get rid of the body....used his POS son to take the heat while using his strings to protect....first...paulass, then urine.....
Janet...your scenario is right on wrt the plan to first dump Natalee at the beach (after all, it happened 20 times before)... but Natalee succumbed to the actions urine/k2/paulass took to cover up the crime....
ROBOTS says it best....
I HATE THEM ALL.......